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Bonnie and Roger in WA
We are streetrodders and former owners of a 13 foot Scamp. My husband didn't want to attach huge mirrors to our '33 Plymouth Coupe, so reluctantly we sold the Scamp and bought a (dirty word) 52.gif tent trailer. After traveling with several friends with Bolers, Scamps, Lil Bigfoot and ALWAYS being the last one to get their camp set up, we decided to go back to a little fiberglass. It helped making that decision to discover removeable McKesh mirrors that don't mark up the sides of the car.

Late this summer we found a 1987 Lil Bigfoot in BC and proceeded to buy it. We knew it had some problems, but the price was right and we are very capable of redoing. So--our odessy began.

The major problems were a mushy floor; a bad axle spindle from spinning a wheel bearing and my husband wanted electric brakes, which meant replacing the axle. The door did not fit properly and someone had put their shoulder into it to close it, breaking the window and damaging the door itself. A new one was over $600. 52.gif There was a lot of water staining in the front kitchen corner. Friends had "re-papered" right over their old wall material using craft felt and that is what we had planned to do also.

After getting the trailer home, we pulled all the lower cabinets out to redo the floor and really got a closer look. The wood was still wet and pretty much rotten. Then we decided it would be easier to recover the walls if the upper cabinets were also removed. Hmmm! It was not only water stained but REALLY moldy. ohmy.gif At one time the walls had been a dark blue, which we could not even imagine. It must have been like a cave, and the previous owners had covered the stains with cellophane and painted it. shg.gif S0---- I pulled on one corner of the wall covering and before we knew it the walls were bare except for the foam insulation.

We measured and ordered the new axle, went to work sanding and repairing the fiberglass exterior, welded extra floor joists to the frame, even added bracing all the way out to the door threshold. Put new plywood floor down and re-glassed all the way around the new wood. My husband totally rebuilt the door using new RV skin material and replaced the window and painted the door. Looks like new. That's where we are at at the moment.

Next phase: PAINT! Then put the windows back in and start on the interior. We bought new vinyl for the floor. We've found a source for the same type of wall covering (just waiting for color samples) and we have decided to reface all of the cabinets with formica, put in a new counter top and replace the stove top with a new two burner. The refrigerator works fine, so we will just put a new panel in the door to match the cabinets.

confuse.gif One thing we are not sure of is A/C. Most of our friends have put small household A/C units in the rear windows, but we had thought about a Coleman Polar Cub unit. They weigh almost 100 lbs and we aren't sure if this will be a problem. Also the fiberglass isn't as thick as 'normal' trailers and we're not sure about this. Has anyone put one of these units in their trailer? confuse.gif

We are adding three new flourescent lights, stereo and some shelving over the end of the bed. Add pleated shades, and we found a cute little fold down table to go in the center of the bunk area. I will reupholster the seat cushions and depending on how it sleeps we may replace the bed cushions with a custom made innerspring mattress (we did this in our old Scamp).

So--once again our "little" project has turned into a major overhaul, but when it gets done it should be a little dream. wub.gif

Please see my other Post for "Pictures of Total Makeover"

Bonnie and Roger Miller, Ephrata, WA
Doug Mager
Bonny and Roger: I speak streetrodder quite fluently and tow our Trillium with a much rodded 1937 Plymouth moredoor! (See attached avitar!)
Donna D.
aplas.gif Hotrodders Unite!

Sounds like you're doing everything right and are going to have a perfect-for-you trailer when you're done. 94.gif

I don't have an A/C either, but living and camping in the Pacific North Wet it's never been a problem...even campning in HOT central Oregon where the temperatures are over a 100 degrees during the day....and cools off rapidly at night. Fans and open windows keep the air moving enough to be comfortable.

Maybe instead of a roof-top A/C you'd consider a Fantastic Fan?? The problem I have with built in A/C and built in furnaces, is you're carrying them (and the weight) around even when you don't need them. If I was to put in a A/C, I'd consider following Lance's lead in putting it into a cabinet with a door to the outside.

Check out Lance's website here for more info: Blue Boler Mods

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Bonnie and Roger in WA
Thanks both of you for your comments on the A/C . We saw another trailer with the unit in the bottom of the closet and have considered doing that. We have a power vent (not a Fantastic Fan) and I am sure that wiould help, but I'm spoiled and I really think A/C is a must. Bonnie
Pete Dumbleton
If you have crank-out windows, one of the Yahoo Scampers came up with a way to temporarily mount a standard, El Cheapo, 5KBTU a/c in the window -- He says it only takes him about five minutes to set up and another five to break down -- He carries the a/c in the bed of his pickup (but it could easily be set on the floor for travel).

Buddy's Air Conditioner
Bonnie and Roger in WA
QUOTE (Pete Dumbleton @ Oct 9 2006, 10:27 PM) *
If you have crank-out windows, one of the Yahoo Scampers came up with a way to temporarily mount a standard, El Cheapo, 5KBTU a/c in the window -- He says it only takes him about five minutes to set up and another five to break down -- He carries the a/c in the bed of his pickup (but it could easily be set on the floor for travel).

Buddy's Air Conditioner



Looks like a neat application, but unfortunately we have sliding windows. Thanks for the post. R n' B
Bonnie and Roger in WA
With my grandson's help, we figured out how to resize some pictures of the demolition of our 13 foot Lil Bigfoot. Next week we plan to start painting, then we can serious about putting things back together again.
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Christi V.
you've taken on a great project..... the results will be great to see!!
Ken & Sherry B.
Looks like you have your hobby for the winter. Hope all goes well. Your grandson helped with the pictures, will he be giving you a helping hand with the trailer as well? Wish we had a nice shop like that one. Cool! 94.gif

Sherry

P.S. can't wait to see the results. okrra.gif
Loren G. Hedahl
I especially like your choice of screws.

Perhaps the idea is patentable -- something like: "Bonding of Wood to Steel via the Oxide of Iron Method"
Bonnie and Roger in WA
QUOTE (Ken & Sherry B. @ Oct 13 2006, 05:29 PM) *
Looks like you have your hobby for the winter. Hope all goes well. Your grandson helped with the pictures, will he be giving you a helping hand with the trailer as well? Wish we had a nice shop like that one. Cool! 94.gif

Sherry

P.S. can't wait to see the results. okrra.gif


We hope it doesn't take all winter. We have a lot of work to do on our 1933 Plymouth Coupe, too. Friends have asked us what color we are going to paint it and we jokingly say "grey primer, to match the car". It has been in primar going on 8 years now. The trailer will be Wimbledon White---soon! Maybe tomorrow. banana.gif

Thanks for the encouraging words. We'll keep you posted.
Pat R
Hey Roger... What a great looking shop to work in. aplas.gif I am really envious. Enjoy and make sure that you keep the photos coming. I look every night to see what is happening out there.
Bonnie and Roger in WA
QUOTE (Pat R @ Oct 17 2006, 05:39 PM) *
Hey Roger... What a great looking shop to work in. aplas.gif I am really envious. Enjoy and make sure that you keep the photos coming. I look every night to see what is happening out there.



Thanks, everyone, for the encouraging words.

Just got the first couple of coats of paint on the trailer and had a few small runs on the curvy parts, so I am scuffing the whole thing down for another coat. Was very pleased that I didn't get any fish eyes (which fiberglass is prone to do) so I must have done a good job on the prep work.
Keith and Dee D
Hi Roger, GREAT JOB! A question about the frame. In the picture there appears to be three pieces coming out from the frame to a fourth piece. Am I not thinking right or is this for strengthening the area at the door. If so is the picture backwards? Also do you any other pictures of the rear of the frame? Due to the molded in bumper I've never been able to see under mine. Thanks in advance. Keith
DaveK
QUOTE (Roger in WA @ Oct 5 2006, 07:18 PM) *
confuse.gif One thing we are not sure of is A/C. Most of our friends have put small household A/C units in the rear windows, but we had thought about a Coleman Polar Cub unit. They weigh almost 100 lbs and we aren't sure if this will be a problem. Also the fiberglass isn't as thick as 'normal' trailers and we're not sure about this. Has anyone put one of these units in their trailer? confuse.gif



About a year ago there was a 13' Bigfoot on Ebay that had a roof-mounted AC. I emailed the seller to ask about it. He said that he took the trailer to a trailer shop that called Bigfoot to ask about it before they installed it, and Bigfoot told them there was wooden framing that would reinforce the roof enough to hold the AC safely.

Now, I've never seen any such reinforcement in my Li'l Bigfoot, and since you gutted yours, you'd know if you saw any. I suspect that the shop was blowing smoke at the guy so they could make their sale.

The fellow did say that they'd never had any trouble with it and he knew up front I was not a potential buyer. I'd like to believe him, but 100lb is a lot up there on the roof

It occurs to me that with your trailer completely open and planning to rebuild that you are definitely in a position to ADD that framing for support if you wanted to.

I hope this helps a little, and I'm really hoping you'll bring the results to Bandon next July for us to admire! http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/index.php?showtopic=13185
Brian B-P
QUOTE (Keith and Dee D @ Oct 19 2006, 05:11 PM) *
...A question about the frame. In the picture there appears to be three pieces coming out from the frame to a fourth piece. Am I not thinking right or is this for strengthening the area at the door. If so is the picture backwards?...

I've never seen a Little Bigfoot frame before, but it looks to me like the photo shows the frame upside-down - notice that the step in the frame at the tongue end goes down in the photo, and is very likely up in use; also, the "wheelie wheels" (casters) are on the top (bottom in use) of the rear (close) end of the frame.

Also, it looks like the frame is notched for the axle tube, and the axle brackets then complete the frame rail. This is a clever way to get the frame low, which I had only seen before (in a moulded fiberglass travel trailer) on a U-Haul. How ironic that on some current Bigfoot models there are 4-inch-high spacers between the spring mounts and the frame to push the trailer higher.
Bonnie and Roger in WA
QUOTE (Keith and Dee D @ Oct 19 2006, 04:11 PM) *
Hi Roger, GREAT JOB! A question about the frame. In the picture there appears to be three pieces coming out from the frame to a fourth piece. Am I not thinking right or is this for strengthening the area at the door. If so is the picture backwards? Also do you any other pictures of the rear of the frame? Due to the molded in bumper I've never been able to see under mine. Thanks in advance. Keith



Keith, You are correct. The door area seemed weak so I decided to add reinforcment while we had it torn apart. And yes, the frame was laying upside down on the floor when I took the picture. I will try to get some more pictures of the back of the frame when I get it back up on the hoist. RogerClick to view attachment
Bonnie and Roger in WA
QUOTE (DaveK @ Oct 19 2006, 09:17 PM) *
About a year ago there was a 13' Bigfoot on Ebay that had a roof-mounted AC. I emailed the seller to ask about it. He said that he took the trailer to a trailer shop that called Bigfoot to ask about it before they installed it, and Bigfoot told them there was wooden framing that would reinforce the roof enough to hold the AC safely.

Now, I've never seen any such reinforcement in my Li'l Bigfoot, and since you gutted yours, you'd know if you saw any. I suspect that the shop was blowing smoke at the guy so they could make their sale.

The fellow did say that they'd never had any trouble with it and he knew up front I was not a potential buyer. I'd like to believe him, but 100lb is a lot up there on the roof

It occurs to me that with your trailer completely open and planning to rebuild that you are definitely in a position to ADD that framing for support if you wanted to.

I hope this helps a little, and I'm really hoping you'll bring the results to Bandon next July for us to admire! http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/index.php?showtopic=13185


The original reinforcment consisted of about a 1 inch frame all the way around the vent opening. I took half inch plywood, scored the back side of it in both directions so it would conform to the curve of the roof line, and glued it to the entire raised section of ceiling, then braced it with poles until the glue set. I placed the poles very firmly which pushed the roof up a little as it had a bit of a sag to it anyway. Seems to be holding, but we don't have the A/C unit in place as yet. This picture is the first half of the roof. I added another piece of plywood in front of this one to just about cover that whole section.RogerClick to view attachment
Keith and Dee D
QUOTE (Roger in WA @ Oct 20 2006, 12:41 PM) *
Keith, You are correct. The door area seemed weak so I decided to add reinforcment while we had it torn apart. And yes, the frame was laying upside down on the floor when I took the picture. I will try to get some more pictures of the back of the frame when I get it back up on the hoist. RogerClick to view attachment


Thanks Roger and Brian, I understand the picture now!! The door area is weak! I had a channel iron welded across between the two frames which helped but the door still sags a bit. I like your bracing better. Keith
Bonnie and Roger in WA
QUOTE (Keith and Dee D @ Oct 20 2006, 01:26 PM) *
Thanks Roger and Brian, I understand the picture now!! The door area is weak! I had a channel iron welded across between the two frames which helped but the door still sags a bit. I like your bracing better. Keith



I added two extra "floor joists" besides the entry reinforcement. One between the closet and the kitchen sink area and the one you can see in the picture straight out from the door. It really makes a good solid feel to the floor. Roger
Derek&Brenda
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QUOTE (DaveK @ Oct 19 2006, 09:17 PM) *
About a year ago there was a 13' Bigfoot on Ebay that had a roof-mounted AC. I emailed the seller to ask about it. He said that he took the trailer to a trailer shop that called Bigfoot to ask about it before they installed it, and Bigfoot told them there was wooden framing that would reinforce the roof enough to hold the AC safely.

Now, I've never seen any such reinforcement in my Li'l Bigfoot, and since you gutted yours, you'd know if you saw any. I suspect that the shop was blowing smoke at the guy so they could make their sale.

The fellow did say that they'd never had any trouble with it and he knew up front I was not a potential buyer. I'd like to believe him, but 100lb is a lot up there on the roof

It occurs to me that with your trailer completely open and planning to rebuild that you are definitely in a position to ADD that framing for support if you wanted to.

I hope this helps a little, and I'm really hoping you'll bring the results to Bandon next July for us to admire! http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/index.php?showtopic=13185

Hi there I too have restored a 13' bigfoot trailer from the ground up. There is no wood in the roof to support an air unit. It should be noted that the wood panel on the ceiling is an important part of the roof structure. If you have any questions on this little trailer I would be happy to answer them.
Bonnie and Roger in WA
QUOTE (Derek&Brenda @ Oct 20 2006, 06:17 PM) *
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Hi there I too have restored a 13' bigfoot trailer from the ground up. There is no wood in the roof to support an air unit. It should be noted that the wood panel on the ceiling is an important part of the roof structure. If you have any questions on this little trailer I would be happy to answer them.



Your trailer looks great. Ours has 1/2 inch wood reinforcment in the ceiling NOW. It only had a thin piece of wall paneling before and the 1 inch wide trim around the vent opening was an add on. I would never have expected the old application to support any weight on the roof. Roger
Bonnie and Roger in WA
QUOTE (Roger in WA @ Oct 13 2006, 01:47 PM) *
With my grandson's help, we figured out how to resize some pictures of the demolition of our 13 foot Lil Bigfoot. Next week we plan to start painting, then we can serious about putting things back together again.


I would like you all to see some of the progress that we are making on our '87 L'il BigFoot. It's actually farther along with the cabinets than this. All the cabinets are in, the doors are ready for installation and the A/C unit will go on top Sat. morning with the help of several strong friends. R 'n B


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mitch
QUOTE (Roger in WA @ Jan 31 2007, 06:12 PM) *
I would like you all to see some of the progress that we are making on our '87 L'il BigFoot. It's actually farther along with the cabinets than this. All the cabinets are in, the doors are ready for installation and the A/C unit will go on top Sat. morning with the help of several strong friends. R 'n B
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Show us more , show us more !!! okrra.gif Please !!! It looks fabulous !

Mitch
Bonnie and Roger in WA
QUOTE (mitch @ Mar 30 2007, 05:22 PM) *
Show us more , show us more !!! okrra.gif Please !!! It looks fabulous !

Mitch

Go to slide show at www.photoshow.com/view/Gx3An9uV
mitch
QUOTE (Roger in WA @ Apr 7 2007, 04:11 PM) *



All I can say is WOW !!!! aplas.gif That is amazing work....!!! We love everything you did to it. Truly spectacular ! Thanks for sharing. You've inspired us !! Now if it would only stop snowing here so we can get outside to work on our BF !!! Happy trails ! Mitch
Herb P
QUOTE (Roger in WA @ Apr 7 2007, 06:11 PM) *

Awesome Awesome work! When are you going to paint the hot rod to match?

Seriously, that's really great.

My garage spray booth is like that. I stapled slats on the bottom of the plastic so I can roll up the poly and wire-tie it to the ceiling when not in use.. I also screwed my regulator/water filter to the ceiling and have a coily cord hanging from it so I can reach all the corners of the spray booth without dragging my hose all over the place... I also screwed metal shelving supports to the ceiling so I'd have lots of places to hang things for spraying... I also use a furnace blower to blow air out the bottom of the garage door and put a furnace filter in front of it. The rest of the door panel gets blocked off and fresh air comes in the little slot at the top. I like your idea of having the filters at the bottom though.
I only regret that my Boler 17 won't fit in my garage so I'm going to have to rent a booth.

Good work!
Vivian
We had the pleasure of meeting Bonnie and Roger at Nehalem Bay State Park in Oregon this past week and viewing the 1987 Li'l Bigfoot. Their design and meticulous attention to detail has made this trailer a work of art!

Vivian & Joe
Bonnie and Roger in WA
QUOTE (Vivian @ Sep 15 2007, 07:01 PM) *
We had the pleasure of meeting Bonnie and Roger at Nehalem Bay State Park in Oregon this past week and viewing the 1987 Li'l Bigfoot. Their design and meticulous attention to detail has made this trailer a work of art!

Vivian & Joe


What a nice surprise to have someone from the forum just walk up to your camp and introduce themselves. We just can't hide when we go out in our unique little trailers. dance.gif Thank you for your kind words about our project. We have really been enjoying the results of our labors this summer. Hopefully we will be able to make the 2008 Spring Rally. Bonnie and Roger
Rudy_Z24
I wonder if thats the lil Bigfoot I was going to look at this spring. From Chilliwack, for $7500 in the Buy and Sell?
Bonnie and Roger in WA
QUOTE (Rudy_Z24 @ Sep 17 2007, 06:00 PM) *
I wonder if thats the lil Bigfoot I was going to look at this spring. From Chilliwack, for $7500 in the Buy and Sell?



No, this one came from around Mission. We have had if for over a year and started the remodel in Aug 2006
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