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Karen K.
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentI had the stove in the Companion powdercoated recently and it looks like new !!!

Karen K.
Bobbie Mayer
That looks really cool. Where did you go to have that done, and what did it cost? I wonder if you could do the icebox or fridge door at the same time?

Bobbie
Christi V.
I had one of my stove tops powdercoated.. ( I think in the 16ft) I was really happy with the way it turned out..... it was so clean and new looking i didnt even use it..!! LOL
Gina D.
RED..

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Doug Mager
Does HEAT bother the powdercoating? OH.gif
Gina D.
Doug, thats part of the powder coating process! It LIKES heat!
Tom Trostel
Bobbie,
Check with your local hot rod shop. They will know who does powder coating in your area. Tom Trostel
Bobbie Mayer
It would be easier just to find out who does powder coating then to have to find the local hot rod shop, first!

But I love that powder coated stove....


Bobbie
Gina D.
Powder Coating is pretty spendy, especially for a one off piece like this. IF you find a shop that is willing to do it, try to see if they have other parts to do that are the same material and get a common color that they are running with that material. This will make your stove top just another part to them. Like materials will prep the same, and after that, parts is parts. Thats why going thru a car shop or similar business would be easier, cheaper and faster.. "How do we do it? VOLUME"

Like with anything else, it's all in the prep. Ask Fred 61.gif
Miriam
WONDERFUL!
Doug Mager
K 7.gif 7.gif L, I've had my furnace front cover done, but was always afraid to fire it up due to possible discoloration issues....
Bill F.
QUOTE (Karen K. @ Apr 10 2007, 06:18 PM) *
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentI had the stove in the Companion powdercoated recently and it looks like new !!!

Karen K.

I worked for a manufacturing company that had a powder coating line in 1990. If I remember correctly the parts spent 1.5 hours going through an oven at 450F to cure the powder, so it should work well on a stove top. We used it on lawnmowers and snowblowers and it seemed almost bullet proof. In the beginning we found the powder filling tapped and clearance holes in sheet metal parts and screws would break rather than dislodge the baked paint. All our components had to have oversized holes added to overcome the problems at assembly. We had the capability of using 3 different colors on this line but we became so busy that we ran only black paint 24/7 and used our wet line to paint other colors. When we tried to find additional powder capacity outside we couldn't find many people doing anything but black. The minimum purchase for a different color was several hundred dollars because it came in skid sized boxes, so a single item is usually prohibitively expensive unless you can find someone with stock in the color you want. There is also a lengthy clean up process each time you change colors on a line to factor in as well.
Bill
Bobbie Mayer
QUOTE (Gina D. @ Apr 10 2007, 08:42 PM) *
Powder Coating is pretty spendy, especially for a one off piece like this. IF you find a shop that is willing to do it, try to see if they have other parts to do that are the same material and get a common color that they are running with that material. This will make your stove top just another part to them.


It would be cool to do the fridge, stove-top, and furnace, if you have one. I want that color in my new house when I build it, maybe I can do the trailer parts at the same time. I've heard of people having their stove done.

But this site has estimated prices...

http://www.powderperfect.com/pricelist.asp

and says they cannot do stove tops. Maybe there is some kind of problem with heat?

Bobbie
Frederick L. Simson
QUOTE (Gina D. @ Apr 10 2007, 08:42 PM) *
Like with anything else, it's all in the prep. Ask Fred 61.gif

My advise is to make friends with your local Hell's Wheels Chapter, or Harley Motorcycle Gang! ohmy.gif blink.gif 42.gif ph34r.gif

At least one of the members will be a machinist/welder who is a control freak, and will only accept work done his way; that's why he has a complete metalworking shop in his garage. 94.gif All of his buddies hang out at his place working on their bikes. If they race, or into motorcross, so much the better! roflol.gif They will fall in love wub.gif with your trailer, and you might become useful to them since you have a trailer hitch; they will invite you to attend the races, and oh-by-the-way can you haul their flatbed trailer for them? 53.gif Offer to buy everybody lunch on a Saturday, and they will teach you how to strip old paint, sand blast, and powder coat. Do your 1st item poorly, and your new friends will take over and complete the job for you, perfectly. No charge for labor. aplas.gif
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Bobbie Mayer
Great plan, and I already know one of those guys. roflol.gif

Bobbie
Gina D.
Bobbie, If they can do valve covers, I am not sure why they wouldn't do stove tops.

Like Bill said, it's practically bullet proof. Thats why it is so common on items that get abused, both physically AND thru heat exposure.

Perhaps a concentrated heat in one area may cause eventual discoloration or damage, or perhaps some toxic gassing when heated like that with the type of powder they use.

There are a variety of powders and compositions used, almost like different types of paint. They each have thier own best spec for material coatings before hand, thickness, gloss factor, texture and how long they should be baked at what temp for what type of material it should be on.
Karen K.
The place that did the powdercoat was the High-Lift jack factory near where we live. The only color choices are red or black. The man who owns the company is a friend of a friend so the cost was nil.

Karen K.
Donna D.
QUOTE (Gina D. @ Apr 10 2007, 10:04 PM) *
Bobbie, If they can do valve covers, I am not sure why they wouldn't do stove tops.


It probably has more to do with size than anything...and the term "Stove Top," may have to do with a home stove/oven which will be 36 to 40 inches. There are some people still trying to change from Avocado Green!
Bobbie Mayer
QUOTE (Donna D. @ Apr 11 2007, 05:41 AM) *
It probably has more to do with size than anything...and the term "Stove Top," may have to do with a home stove/oven which will be 36 to 40 inches. There are some people still trying to change from Avocado Green!


They list things of all sizes. I read on another site that stove tops were a problem because of the flames doing something to the powder coating.

Years ago, I painted an avocado green stove with wood stove paint. It worked. It chipped a lot (as I hadn't really been able to abrade the surface) but I just touched it up now and then (it was a spray paint.) I'm not suggesting that- it wasn't the best solution- but the heat was not a problem with it.

Bobbie
Karen K.
I don't cook inside anyways, don't want to mess things up. I like to cook on the fire and carry about 50 lbs ( haha) of cast iron cookware in the camper. The stove's just for purdy.

Karen K.
Donna D.
QUOTE (Bobbie Mayer @ Apr 11 2007, 08:01 AM) *
They list things of all sizes. I read on another site that stove tops were a problem because of the flames doing something to the powder coating.
Bobbie


Must be a problem with the flame...it sure isn't because of the heat...it's not unusual for hotrodders to have headers and manifolds powder coated and them suckers get HOT!
Natalie M.
Oh I love this RED stove top. So glad to hear of a solution, I'm going to look into Powder Coating for my stove top and sink. I spraypainted them both, and the stove has been fine, just a bit scratched but the sink started peeling apart and looks awful now.

Thanks for that Karen!



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Doug Mager
THAT does it!!!!
I have the Trailer Goddess' O.K. to take our stovetop out to Mission tomorrow and get 'coated' too.....
Natalie M.
QUOTE (Doug Mager @ Apr 12 2007, 04:37 AM) *
THAT does it!!!!
I have the Trailer Goddess' O.K. to take our stovetop out to Mission tomorrow and get 'coated' too.....



Hey Doug, What is the name/location of the place you're taking it to in Mission? I live in Maple Ridge, so that woul work for me too.
Doug Mager
I forget the name right now (seniors moment 54.gif ) but I think its on London Ave.
(32851 London Ave.) in one of those strip warehouse mall complexes, west of Lordco.

There is a carpet store first up on the corner (left side) as you drive into the complex. Its located next door to (possibly) the best chrome platting shop in the lower mainland just in case you need any 'bright work' done, BTW!!!!

P.S.
you've got mail.....
Doug Mager
HEADS UP PEOPLE!!

I just returned from my powder coating people 'WestCoast Metal Finishers' with my stovetop parts ALL in hand. They advised me (as I suspected) that powdercoating these pieces might just be a waste of my $$$. They told me that the way to go with any (other than factory finish) finish on these pieces is to use Ceramic Coating, NOT powder coating. ....Yes the curing process is heat (bake oven) activated but that temperature is only about 400 degrees. Thats why (IF your wife doesn't mind) and you have the right equipment you can do this at home shg.gif

Heat generated by the flame of a propane cook top can/does far surpass that temperature. I HAVE had the custom exhaust headers on one of my hot rods ceramic coated AND polished, so they look like chrome (close enough for the girls I go out with any way 37.gif roflol.gif

They told me that the coating would probably very soon just start crumbling and flaking off, meaning another 'chore' to contend with..... 22.gif
jim munson
I seem to remember that a chrome plate or nickle was going to be about $100+ for a stovetop. I went with an all new one (stainless) from Suburban for about $150. I might get tired of some color in a while. I did spuluge and get the hinged ss top cover too.
Doug Mager
....and yet further to my above post, just tonight on the B 7.gif 7.gif B tube I saw a commercial for stovetop clensers and they were saying that (gas) stovetops 'average' temp is 300 degrees. (note: this is LESS than the req'd 400 degrees to cure powdercoating!)

So I guess it boils down to who you believe/trust. Another car-buddy from Vale OR tells me that P/Coating a stovetop is the only way to go (to freshen up that area). He goes on to tell me that he has had the frame of one of his cars powdercoated and LOVES it. So, ....tell me, HOW does a powdercoated frame relate to a stovetop???? confuse.gif OH.gif OH.gif
Donna D.
I can't stand not having a definitive answer on the stove top powder coat idea. I've just joined the forum over at Eastwood (the premier powder coating folks) and will ask if powder coating is appropriate. Soon as I hear...I'll let y'all know 4.gif
Mark Houghton
someone needs to measure the heat coming from the cooktop surface to know whether it can support powdercoating. household stoves, ovens and burner grates are all porcelain covered (aka stove enamel). porcelain is a baked on finish similar to powdercoat but it can withstand higher temps.

chrome is used as a cooktop surface or even as a griddle surface on vintage stoves - griddles only get up to about 400-425 degrees though.

that's about all i can add from my stove and motorscooter restoration knowledge 61.gif
Herb P
QUOTE (Mark Houghton @ May 6 2007, 11:03 PM) *
someone needs to measure the heat coming from the cooktop surface to know whether it can support powdercoating. household stoves, ovens and burner grates are all porcelain covered (aka stove enamel). porcelain is a baked on finish similar to powdercoat but it can withstand higher temps.

chrome is used as a cooktop surface or even as a griddle surface on vintage stoves - griddles only get up to about 400-425 degrees though.

that's about all i can add from my stove and motorscooter restoration knowledge 61.gif


An engine only gets to about 220ish degrees at its hottest (the coolant thermostat is set to 180F usually).. That's the right range anyway... That's why people can powder coat valve covers and not have to use high-heat paint on the block... Headers and exhaust manifolds, however, can get up to 1200F which is why those parts get ceramic coated. Powder coating is really just tiny tiny plastic beads (dust basically) that are sprayed on to the item in question. The item is connected to a high voltage electrical source and the gun is the other side. The dust is attracted to the item due to electrostatic forces. The item is then baked at 400F-ish to melt the plastic beads together to result in the powdercoat finish you admire...

The flame from a propane burner is much much hotter than 400F and so will burn the plastic when it comes into contact with it. Not to mention the heat of the flame reflected back off the bottom of your kettle onto the plastic.

Powder Coating a stove top is not the right answer.

I don't know what colors, if any, they can do with ceramic coating but that would be the right answer, as far as that technology goes.

Frankly, I think you can have your stovetop chromed for about the same amount of money as powder coating...
Mark Houghton
ceramic coating comes in limited colors (chrome, blue, red, black) but they may not be the depth you desire. ceramic coating can stain though - i've had this problem on manifolds and exhausts and still haven't found a way to get them out.

i would use porcelain enamel or chrome

this is who i have used for ceramics several times
http://www.performancecoatings.com/
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