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cjlindsay
The "Pine Cone", formerly "Woody" is nearing completion. Sort of. I still
have to cut and fit 3 or 4 panels for the bathroom walls. The bathroom
door needs to be redone now that the opening is a half inch narrower.
It still needs kitchen drawers, the floor needs to be cut and
installed, the support for the wood burning stove needs to be built, (yes, wood burning stove.)
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the table needs to be covered in the same material as the floor, the
speakers and sub woofers need to be covered with metal speaker grills.
(Yes, Sub woofers. Plural.) And I still need to cut and install
somewhere between 75 and 100 feet of 1&1/2 inch to 2 inch wide strips
of brass. When all that's done then I have to put on one coat of
walnut oil every 5 days for about a month and a half to give the wood
the DEEP satin lustre I'm looking for. Altogether, with what I've
applied so far and what I still have to apply, there'll be about 7 or
8 coats of oil in the wood. It's already starting to do a "tiger
stripe maple" effect. VERY nice.
http://www.northcoastknives.com/mapletiger-Lrg.gif Of course, when
all of the interior is done there is still the outside to do. Paint
the frame black, Replace the old tired 2000 pound suspension with a
3500 pound suspension. Replace the tires and wheels with my extra Jeep
wheels in the garage. Spray on black rubber rock guard on the front of
the trailer to stop rocks from chipping the fiberglass any more.
Replace the front and back foggy crackly plexiglass windows. AND
THEN... Paint the outside of the trailer the same color as the Jeep.
And amongst all of this, at some point I'll be installing the wood
stove.
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Cheers!
Lorene W
That is amazing! Where will you put the wood stove?
Mary F
Yes, wow, that IS amazing! We used to tease pjanits for the chimney on his trailer (he photographed it with the house in the background, and it did look like the chimney was on the roof of the trailer) - but you really are going to have one! Amazing!

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Steve L.
I agree, very nice!

Do you have a "before" weight? I'm thinking you'll need at least a 3500 pound axle and appropriate size tires. I'd be curious how much weight it added.
Domenica and Sheila
Fantastic! I have a trailer today, because of my early memories of the wood in our early 60's travel trailer. In fact, before we purchased fiberglass, we looked for a blond wood interior 50-60's small travel trailer for two years. The wood work in yours is beautiful. Maybe you'll bring it to the Oregon Gathering in Bandon, someday??

Thanks for sharing your work. D
Joseph Domingos
WOW!!! That is STUNNING!! A rustic little cabin on wheels for you! And it's only a 13 footer huh? Amazing! It looks like you've made a little bathroom/closet for yourself next to the kitchen as well? And I'm curious too, where are you going to fit the stove? Though it does appear to be a pretty small/compact stove...
Before pics would probably be interesting, IF you have them. Keep us posted, and I bet you'll be a HUGE attraction at every rally you go to! hehehe
Joe
Kevin K
cjlindsay
Looks GREAT very nice work. The only problem for me is all the extra wt. from all that GREAT looking wood. The reason I bought a 13' Scamp was to keep the wt down. Any idea how much more wt. this wood added to the trailer? Keep up the good work.
Steve Hilby
How do you plan to seal the chimney-through-roof joint? I'd be worried about a hot chimney setting my roof on fire, or leakage around the chimney.
cjlindsay
Thank You ALL very, VERY much for the compliments! I'm having an absolute blast doing this reno. A Boler + a lot of time + a lot of money + a lot of sweat + a bit of blood = A whole LOTTA FUN!

For Where the Stove will Go:

In the third picture you can just see the platform on the lower left of the shot. That is where the stove will go.

For the Weight:

Actually probably not as much as you might think. All the wood I am using is EXTREMELY light. 1/4 inch or thinner. The wood from the original top bunk probably weighed about 60 pounds. the fiberglass from the lower bunk is another 20 pounds gone. No more furnace, built in stove or fridge. No more Propane tank. No more water tank. One third of the tall cabinet cut out. Altogether that's probably well over another hundred pounds gone. With all that gone and the new wood on, the difference between original dry and renovated dry shouldnt be more than 100 - 150 pounds. It helps that the stove is only 35 pounds. As for tires and axles. I'm getting new 3500 pound torsion arm susp. From Princess Auto. $400.00 Tax included when not on sale. The wheels I have already from my Jeep. I,ll have to enlarge the fiberglass openings for the wheels, But that's O.K. I've seen it done, and it looks good.

For the "Cabin on Wheels":

You GOT IT EXACTLY. A Cabin on wheels. Yup, Bathroom in the corner. Couldn't get a good pic. The sun was setting into the bathroom window. The stove will go beside the bathroom, on the platform on the bottom left of the third pic. No Before pics. Yeah I know, I'm kicking myself for you...

For Sealing the Chimney, and not burning to death:

I'm actually putting it through the wall in the corner just below the body joint with a class "A" Double Walled, Insulated Chimney Tee. And all the stove pipe is going to be class "A" Double Walled, Insulated pipe. Minimum clearance to flamables is 2" The chimney pipe is 4". The Tee opening through the wall is 8 inches. I'm also going to make sure that the pipe ends a minimum 3' above the roof, and that I ALWAYS have a spark arrestor in place. And that I clean out the creosote after EVERY trip.

Thanks Again everyone! I hope to have it all done in time to fire up the stove sometime is September. So MANY little details! Gaa! Later!

P.S. I tried to respond to everyone individually with a multi-quote. But it seems this forum doesn't support that. Sorry!
Camilla
Amazing! I just LOVE it!!!!!!!
Bob H
Imagining if that is all Cedar Wood, with a real hot stove you'd have the makings of a great portable sauna.

The smell of all that pine must be marvelous!
cjlindsay
QUOTE (Bob H @ Jul 12 2008, 12:35 PM) *
Imagining if that is all Cedar Wood, with a real hot stove you'd have the makings of a great portable sauna.

The smell of all that pine must be marvelous!



Actually, in three years when the Jeep is payed for I'll be redoing it all in Cedar.

And, yup! The Pine and Walnut oil together, smell awesome. Very fresh. : )

Thanks All!
mcnick
WOW your little cabin on wheels looks great! I had re-done mine a year or so ago with all wood, but your is just perfect. I have one question... how did you attach the wood the the walls and ceiling..?? did you have to drill any hole's anywhere..?

Keep up the good work... it looks really nice! I am sure you will have many good memories with it!
cjlindsay
QUOTE (mcnick @ Jul 30 2008, 09:20 PM) *
WOW your little cabin on wheels looks great! I had re-done mine a year or so ago with all wood, but your is just perfect. I have one question... how did you attach the wood the the walls and ceiling..?? did you have to drill any hole's anywhere..?

Keep up the good work... it looks really nice! I am sure you will have many good memories with it!


Whoops! Sorry! Haven't checked the forum lately. Thank You! Yeah, I had to drill either 15 or 18 holes in the ceiling to support the strapping for the roof panels. Plus four holes on either side to support the new front and rear cabinets. I filled the holes with caulking then screwed the screws from the outside of the Egg through the wet caulking and into the wood strapping inside the egg. Before I closed the last little gap between the screws and the fiberglass I dabbed a little more caulk around and under the screws to make SURE it never leaks. The side panels are ALL pressure fitted between various permanent fixtures. (Upper cabinets to the lower cabinets. Floor to the window frames. Benches to the window frames. Window frames to the roof panels) Using the pressure fit method allowed me to put paneling where I couldn't have otherwise.(Not without HUNDREDS of holes in the fiberglass) Of course, doing it this way I had to figure out a way to KEEP the pressure fit pieces in place while the Egg is rolling down the highway. Got lucky in a couple spots where the bunk supports were, but otherwise that's where the brass comes in. Not only is it for prettying up the edges and corners that don't quite meet perfectly, it's also stuctural. The brass is being screwed to every piece of wood in the trailer and will support the neighboring panels if ever one comes loose. Sorry for the long winded answer! Later!
Carolyn Patterson
Ok cjlindsay,

I want to see more of that interior of your egg!! I LOVE that lodgy look! Come on...give us a peek at what would be surrounding that stain glass door!!
Bill & Ann C
Carolyn is right,

Your trailer is beautiful! I the interior of our trailer was as beautiful as yours.
cjlindsay
QUOTE (Carolyn Patterson @ Nov 12 2008, 01:21 PM) *
Ok cjlindsay,

I want to see more of that interior of your egg!! I LOVE that lodgy look! Come on...give us a peek at what would be surrounding that stain glass door!!


Ohhhh-Kayyy. If you insist. blush.gif

Here we go!

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Pic 4 shows the ledge (Bottom left of pic) where the itty bitty wood burning stove is going.
Pic 6 is inside the bathroom I added to the front of the trailer.
Pic 7 is the Sardine. (Web Pic)
Winter is upon us again, so I should be able to finish it by next spring. (Hopefully!)

Later!
Carolyn Patterson
Are you kidding?

The interior of your trailer looks like a cabin out in Jackson Hole!! It's wonderful!! 94.gif

I love my trailer, but I absolutely LOVE what you've done!!

You really need a stain glass window to complete the look.

Gosh, I'd be torn as to going outside and enjoying the outdoors or staying inside and enjoying the indoors!!

Wow...Very, very, very, very, very, very, very impressive!! 53.gif
Donna D.
I just split all the posts regarding cjlindsay's trailer into this original topic. It's best to stay on topic and the other topic is about Stain Glass Entry Doors.
Coach George Jessup
Tell me more about your mini wood stove please
HerseyBA
QUOTE (Coach George Jessup @ Nov 12 2008, 07:28 PM) *
Tell me more about your mini wood stove please


Check out this website for Navigator Stove Works. They have wood burning galley stoves including the "Sardine".

http://www.marinestove.com/index.htm
Coach George Jessup
QUOTE (HerseyBA @ Nov 13 2008, 09:04 AM) *
Check out this website for Navigator Stove Works. T....
Much thanx
Kurt & Ann K.
Donna,
Could you please save the link for the marine woodstove? As a retired chimney sweep I find the info quite interesting. Locating a source for sufficiently small stoves is very difficult, and these are the first ones I've seen that appear appropriate. There have been a couple of others over the years, but there were always problems achieving sufficient clearances around them and/or they created too much heat unless outside temps were in the sub-zero range, and the Fantastic Fan was running full bore with all windows open.

CJ and Hersey,
Finding the source for those stoves and sharing the info may provide inspiration for many others.
The "cabin" interior is awesome. I can imagine the outside painted to look like a log cabin, sitting outside the door and enjoying a glorious sunset before going indoors for supper cooked on a real wood stove!!!
Thanks,
Kurt & Ann K.
Gina D.
pssssstttt, Kurt...

you live in a cabin. Come to think of it, so do I...

CJ, the inside of my house looks exactly like that, including the ceiling. I love knotty pine, and finding a house up here when I was looking that had it was not difficult. I was, however, appalled at how many of the old cabins up here had been "Updated". Why would one move to a mountain and then make their house look like every other McMansion down the hill. Oh well.

I will put the link in the helpful links... if Kurt thinks it's safe.. it is.
cjlindsay
Updated cabins. Gaa! Almost as bad as those people who move to the country, build a 5000 sq/ft house for two people, clearcut every inch of their land and pave it with acres of grass. WHY? Why do people do these things? 29.gif

Later!
Loren G. Hedahl
QUOTE (cjlindsay @ Nov 14 2008, 04:17 AM) *
Updated cabins. Gaa! Almost as bad as those people who move to the country, build a 5000 sq/ft house for two people, clearcut every inch of their land and pave it with acres of grass. WHY? Why do people do these things? 29.gif

Later!



Because they can!
pjanits
It's just beautiful!
I know the weight isn't that much more. I replaced those totally heavy doors and tables in mine with light weight clear pine for the Ikea look. I thought I was going to get a hernia hauling those old composite boards to the trash.
Raya L.
QUOTE (pjanits @ Nov 17 2008, 04:51 PM) *
I replaced those totally heavy doors and tables in mine with light weight clear pine for the Ikea look.


That sounds nice. Do you have any photos or can you share details about your doors? (maybe you've already posted something?)

Raya
Pamela S.
That's what I was wondering: how much did all that paneling add to the weight of the camper? Absolutely gorgeous job, by the way. It looks so completely homey and welcoming!
cjlindsay
QUOTE (Pamela S. @ Nov 17 2008, 10:46 PM) *
That's what I was wondering: how much did all that paneling add to the weight of the camper? Absolutely gorgeous job, by the way. It looks so completely homey and welcoming!

Thank you very much! I hope to get the inside finished this winter. (After 2 years of working on it... Finally!)

Well, I took out the furnace, so that's 20 pounds gone. The fridge is gone, 20 -25 pounds. The water tank is gone, another 5 pounds. The center of the Closet is cut out, 5 pounds. The bunk bed is gone, at least 50 pounds gone. (That is CRAZY heavy wood!) The bunk bed bench is gone, another 20 pounds. and the propane tank is gone, 15 pounds. The paneling is UBER light. Each 8 foot long by 3,1/2" by 1/4" weigh maybe a couple ounces. They are REALLY light. I didn't have to add any structural pieces except for the bathroom door support and the screen door support. Altogether I took out about 140 (or more) pounds, and added back about 150 - 175 pounds. So, not too, too bad I think.


Thanx!
Later!
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