This is the way I would like to have a 13' Scamp built for 2 adults.

No stove -- No sink-- No toilet--build a Bigger bed ( 5' 5"wide and 6' 2" long)--Still have the bed area so you can have a table and more storage area. Use a portable stove for cooking and a plastic tub for doing dishes. We very seldom use the stove in the scamp. We always cook and do dishes outside. If you need a toilet use a portable one and hide it in a cabinet. Space is at a premium in a 13' Scamp. I would rather have a bigger bed than all that other stuff.
When you go camping you should be outside anyway. Unless it's raining.

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Kevin, IM single but completely agree with you!!! i do not use my sink or water, my stove is removed, as was the heater and frige. No toilet.

WHen Scamping we cook outdoors, and i usually, if its hot, have a rousing game of ring the cooler round the trailer a few times. =) keep it out of the sun. Funny I love my scamp for what it is and would not have it any other way.


yet

As we used to say, back in the self-focused '70s, "thank you for sharing".

Back in the '70s we had a Compact Jr. that was layed out similarly. It did have a small 2-burner cook-top and a tiny sink and an ice-box.

We were more into hiking and climbing then, but did take a couple of trips zig-zagging across the country from coast to coast. It provided us with what we needed to see the country cheaply.

But I wouldn't want to go back to it from our Scamp.

That looks pretty close to the front-sink Surfside layout.

Some great ideas! But, I camp differently than you. I do use all the amenities in my trailer, that's why I bought it. Otherwise, I could have purchased a used cargo trailer a whole lot cheaper and outfitted it to just be a hard-sided tent.

I love it Kevin, I'm guessing many on the site might not agree with you, but again we all camp differently.

I pulled my stove, my furnace, my sink, my icebox, everything out of my 72 Boler American and have been working on the reconfig. I am building around my plastic containers. For dishes, for food, for my hobbies - mostly rock-climbing gear. I have a pretty LARGE Vendor Tent I travel with... 10x20' so yes that gives me 200 s.f of outdoor cooking/eating space... needless to say, we only use the Boler for resting at night.

I am going to spend a bit more time looking at your drawings, I always love talking to people that have really made them custom to their likings, and how they camp.

Keep us update, and I'll try to post some of my most recent configs.

Scamp did/does have this floor plan. It has kitchen stuff in it tho.

We have seen a couple of them posted here, but I can't remember what it was called. It is a deluxe style tho. Nice wood and cozy looking.

Any one have pictures of the 13' Scamp deluxe style?

Here's a post showing the front: Where to get professional mods?

Perhaps you can get Lorene to post more pics/information.

Lorene
What is the bed size in your 13' Scamp deluxe ?
Any more interior photos of deluxe style ?
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Lorene I sent you a email

Kevin,
The bed measures about 78" by 53". Not quite as wide as you had hoped.

In this picture, you see a "loft" on the left built for two Boston Terriers above the foot of the bed.

Here is the front showing the storage cabinet and the "potty" compartment below.
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There is a LOT of storage. Both those cabinet areas go all the way to the left wall under the counter. (Great for items that are used less often but still pretty easy to get to. Here is the upper cabinet in use - my "kitchen."
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There are two closets, as well. Shown closed...
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And here is a shot of the kitchen as you step in the door
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The dinette (which I rarely use)
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Sadly, there is no dishwasher and no washer/ dryer.

I try to load the trailer conservatively for travel. No water in tanks. If I bring a lot of canned goods I put them in the tug. This trailer weighs 1840 ready to go for one person. I know that's hard to believe. I had it weighed twice. Unhooked from the tug.

For me, this is a very comfortable and practical layout.

Lorene W
Thanks for the GREAT photos .

Thanks for the shots, Lorene. It's enlightening to see just how much personal comfort you can fit into a small trailer with a little thought.

This topic is very timely for me. I've done a lot of reconfigurations to make my 13 foot Burro a friendlier place for sleeping (and you can look 'em up) yet I (we) are still not content. True, if I were not 6 ft 7 and my other half not 6 ft 3 by now we'd be satisfied with my changes. The continuing agony of de feet, and de hips, or where they can fit, is our trouble

Taking stock:

• Don't need no dinette table to break down for sleeping. We like having a ready-made bed. Hell, if we want a dinette, we'll stay in a motel. Anyway, I don't play Parcheesie.
• Also never use the sink -- washing things outside in a 5-gallon bucket does us nicely. I feel safe enough brushing my teeth at the campsite lav and I sleep better after a walk.
• Never needed a refrigerator. A 60 gallon upright cooler with wheels is just fine.
• Setting up the porta-potty for those nocturnal senior emergencies leaves minus-zero floor space.
• We always use our propane stove. But that can be re-located.
• No way we lay out the bucks and kick it up a notch to a bigger trailer.
• When I kick the bucket my wife can roll the thing over a cliff, or sink it in the swamp, for all I'll care.

I therefore have begun thinking the unthinkable; that is, taking a much harder look at those Burro molded built-ins restricting how we bed down. For now, it is clear, they are the major impediment to a pleasant night. If we were average in height we could sleep cross-wise happily. But, we're not.

Drastic surgery is beginning to make sense to me. Not that I'm quite ready to tackle this job, of course. Cutting out that massive fiberglass cooking monolith does creep me out a little bit.

But thanks, Kevin, for starting this thread. It gives me more to chew upon. Those floor plans you showed are great. Found myself wishing there was one that employed sleeping the length of the trailer instead of the width. What computer program did you use to make them? I am now busy with pencil and graph paper drawing some floor plans of my own.

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Kevin, I totally dig the layout. Because our sleeping hours are about one hour offset Lynne and I really like having a separate bed and dinette, but if we were OK with having a single bed/dinette setup . . . yours is a great layout!

Lorene: Your trailer is awsome!

Lorene,
Your Scamp is gorgeous & I envy you having all that storage space! This is not the standard Scamp Deluxe, is it? I've seen other SDs but the layout was the usual plan, just done in wood instead of fiberglass. Was this your own design?
Sandra

Thank you all for your kind words. It is a beautiful trailer and I am very fortunate to have it.

Sandra, I bought it on eBay. The only thing I can take credit for is the curtains (and the doggie bunk which is now removed.)
I think this is called a Scamp Custom Deluxe and it must have been designed and ordered by someone who had a lot more $$$$$ than I have!!! Besides all the usual extras, it came with nice tweed upholstery, awning with walls that attach with velcro, a back bumper bike rack, oh, and these lovely cloth snap-on window covers to protect my little Scamp from -what, sun?? sand?? frostbite??

Hey Lorene;

Beautiful Scamp. The A/C install looks unique also. Any chance of detail pics of the venting / baffles etc?

I'm with DonnaD. When I sold the Burro, I pledged no more hundred yard dashes at 2am so I've gotta have a latrine. The addition of a sink to your design would seem easy enough to do and might make your life a little easier someday since the plumbing is all there anyway.

Lorene, I LOVE your layout! I could easily live with that (IT IS BEAUTIFUL!) as I use mine mainly for sleeping anyhow.
I do love having an inside potty, but a porta pot would do. I love your counter space, you found a beautiful camper. That doggie bed could become another shelf (for maybe a TV at night or during a rainy day). The dogs would end up sleeping with me anyhow. No way I could keep them up there with me below them. LOL
Thanks for sharing the pictures with all of us.
Keven, I like your ideas also. I think Scamp should offer this as an option on its website. I bet they would build a few more of them quickly. This is the ideal one person Scamp. It is a private little house on wheels all rolled into one room. I LOVE IT!

Actually, Scamp does offer modified floorplans as Custom Deluxe models. They say that they will build any configuration you want, as long as you agree to their custom pricing. They will work with you individually, but it will be a custom order.

I was going to say that.

I think this design could work for a regular 13'. Keeping the front the same with the couch/bunks. The cabinet across from the door could have a fridge under and a sink/cooktop combination on top? Plumbing would have to be pretty creative and compact. Would be really cool if a manufacturer made a combination Fridge/Sink/Stovetop with all the wiring and plumbing inside. Overhead cabinets all the way around. And the bigger dinette/bed in back. I think I would even like this if it had a regular size bed and the trailer was made a foot or two shorter.

Myron Leski your question on post 17
I used Google Sketchup http://sketchup.google.com/ very easy program to learn and it's FREE. After you download the program, download my scamp model at http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/det...amp;prevstart=0 you can look at all the details of a stock scamp interior.
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Something like this
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No counter space.
Ft dinette could be made into bunks if you wanted.

Now there's a million $$ idea, kind of like those extra compact kitchenette's they have in motels, but with propane appliances. When are we going into partnership to start production?

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Here's another kitchenette unit... for those who can't do without all the comforts of home, including the dishwasher
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My father had a very similar design in his 13' Shasta. However, the kitchen went in the front right by the door to the closet. The closet was on the drivers side and was opposite the door and went to the front of the unit. That way he could have a closet; put in a marine toilet or portapotty and/or also put in a shower in that space. The back of his Shasta was configured like the Compact, Jr. - king size bed.

It also had cabinets all the around the top plus over the king size bed were two cots on metal poles that could put away in the back when they were not in use. That allowed 2 adults and 2 kids (even grown kids) to sleep in the trailer.

The one change I would have made to the trailer was to make the king size bed cushions different so that I could have the back cushions down like a bed and my bedding folded down there and the front cushions made for a small dinning table.

Loreen,

We just purchased a 1998 Scamp. Would love to see yours in person some time. We live in Covington, Georgia. The cabinet work looks beautiful in the pics.

Rosemary Rogers

very cool program... I have many uses for such a tool. Autocad is great but the $4000 pricetag is a tad out of reach for me.

Here's an idea I had for a Boler/clone "Liberty meets Compact Jr." layout.

Quoting myself, from a post in this thread

http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/index.php?showtopic=34113

(but going in a direction more appropriate to the thread I am in now), I said:



The other thing is that I can't think of an easy way to re-establish the sidewall-shape support provided by the "wrought-iron" galley support. I suppose one could tab in a supportive arch across the overhead at the forward end of the table, but that would not qualify as "easy."

Also, one might bump one's head on the former over-galley cabinets if sitting down too aggressively.

Haven't solved the 'fridge issue either. There would be room for it under the front kitchen, but it would not be that fun to move a propane fridge, nor to have the vents on the front of the trailer. It would work fine for a slide-out cooler, or for a 110v or 12v fridge though.

Anyway, I just "drew" a layout plan to show what I was talking about (see, I do have a point ) And no, I'm not a computer drawing expert!

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Just thought I'd throw it into the thread. I'm probably not about to remodel, but I do think about it from time-to-time

Raya

Well, a tape-measure "solved" one problem: A support bracket or partial wall at the forward end of the "big" bed would leave about the same fore-and-aft spread between supports as there is now (and would actually compensate slightly better for the placement of the closet and the door). That would put the new support just at the "aft" end of the little window over the stove (for thems as have one).

It's all so quick and easy on paper

Raya

Lots of good stuff here on this thread, reminds me of my old Scamp 13' that I put a two person dinette in the front. The guy I bought the trailer from ordered it without anything in the front , where a bath & closet would be. The wife and I still miss that little Scamp. I would love to build something from scratch, and I would design it so that there wouldn't be any rivets.

Another plan I thought of is to have a front sitting area and a side bunk (72"x30") Just cut the closet shelf in a stock 13' scamp to make a bunk. Keep a pole or brace on the edge to hold up the roof and have a flip up bed section by the door.
Keep the lower bed size at 76"x46"
Table is 2' wide with a seating area of 18"
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I'm with you Donna, the Eggcamper is layed out about perfect for my needs.
I'm just about $16,500 short of the $17,000 I need to get one.