Gary P
Oct 9 2009, 12:05 PM
Hello all.
First Post... been lurking and soaking up info for a little while.
So after a 3 month search, I finaly found a descent FGRV I could afford to buy and fix up.
I drug a 1984 13ft U-HAUL out from behind a mobile home in the sticks of South Carolina (4 hours from home).
I hate to see cool old things just rotting away in the elements. It deserves to be restored.
Overall it's in OK shape. I already have a laundry list of things to do to it:
The outside is descent, it has a few spider webs in the glass but no severe damage. No leaks.
I will pressure wash it and buff the fiberglass to the best shine I can get, then wax it.
I'm keeping the stickers on it but I think I will clean them good then clearcoat them to preserve them.
I'm painting the wheels orange and putting baby moon's on them.
I will clean and repaint the frame.
All of the cushions are missing. I wonder if 13ft Scamp cusions will fit?
I will have to make a new table top. Mine's missing.
I will have to make a new top bunk for the Goucho. It's missing
The swamp cooler is no good. The pump works so I will try to use it on the 12v fresh water pump system.
I will put a Fantastic Vent in place of the swamp cooler.
The power converter works, but I don't think the solar panel is putting out any voltage.
I haven't tested the furnace yet. Gas isn't hooked up yet.
The stove top has to have some type of refinish.
I need a faucet/ galley pump. I think I will go with a 3-way since I'm putting the swamp cooler pump on the water system.
The Cooler is gone but I think I want to put a shelf for a microwave in it's place and just use a couple of regular coolers.
It has yukky carpet in the floor but I think I'm going to put laminate flooring in it instead.
Overall, it seems like it will make a pretty cool little camper for me and my family.
I can't wait to tear into it his weekend.
I think the worst part of the project will be the cushions. I may be able to talk my wife into that part of the restoration.
Here is a couple of pics the way she was when I brought it home.
I'll post a few more as I clean it up and fix the issues.
Happy Camping...
Kevin K
Oct 9 2009, 12:13 PM
Nice find.
Good cleaning and you'll be ready to go.
Have FUN.
theresa p
Oct 9 2009, 12:14 PM
welcome, gary...and it sure looks like a great project! actually, it is in surprisingly good shape. hope your wife agrees to do those cushions! she'll most likely want to re-do the curtains to match. good luck, and keep those photos coming as the work progresses.
CindyL
Oct 9 2009, 12:51 PM
As a fellow UHaul owner, thanks for saving it.
It looks in pretty good shape. I thought from your description it would be far worse. Those are the original curtains, in case you were interested.
There is a guy on uhaulcamper.com who brought back a UHaul in that was in really poor shape. He had to replace the cupboard doors, but he took his to Florida for a week this past spring after fixing it up. They clean up really nicely.
Robin G
Oct 9 2009, 01:46 PM
Welcome Gary and Congrat's on a great find. Look's like it's in pretty good shape, with a little clean up and mod's that make your family's camping experience more pleasant you will have a great trailer! Enjoy! Thanks for post pic's..................... keep them coming as you progress thru your projects. Robin
Harry Young
Oct 9 2009, 04:03 PM

Well Gary,
You lucky devil, its a great find, hope you have years of memories and fun, fiberglass is addicting being a great way to R.V. hope to meet you sometime.
Harry
Vickie B.
Oct 9 2009, 06:28 PM
WOW, you've really put a lot of thought into this! Have you had a FGRV before??? I'm impressed!
You sound like a great "dad" to your rescued camper---will enjoy seeing your restoration!
Paul from NWOnt
Oct 10 2009, 03:49 AM
WOW!! With a couple bottles of windex, some lysol cleaner, and some cheap sleeping pads that thing would be usable right now. You've got a migthy good start to your project already.
Congratulations!
Gary P
Oct 10 2009, 06:35 AM
Thanks for the welcome's and all of the kind words.
Yes I think it's cool that it still has the original curtains. (I like original).
I hope my wife agrees to do the cushions to or otherwise, I have to learn to sew

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This is my first FGRV and I have put some thought into it.
I actually started out looking at canned hams, but after seeing how they were just totally rotted and basically needed a frame off to be right, I started looking at the "eggs" . Well... you see where I'm at now.... Glass Egg City for me. Very little or NO rotten wood in these things. Light weight, easy to work on, I could go on and on.
I'm happy I found it.
I'm sure I will have a lot of questions along the way. I have never even seen one of these U-Hauls up close so I have nothing to go from on making parts for it.
First order of business...clean the outside.
I'll post some pics when I get it cleaned.
Gary P
Oct 12 2009, 07:29 AM
The progress is coming along nicely.
I got the carpet ripped out.
The outside is cleaned. It's oxidized and I will need to buff it (later).
The inside is in pretty good shape, everything cleaned up really well. I was pleasantly suprised.
Fantastic Vent is next.
Joe MacDonald
Oct 12 2009, 08:28 AM
looks great so far. Good luck
Pam Garlow
Oct 13 2009, 05:45 PM
Good job - wish mine still had the original stickers!
You can download the U-Haul Parts and Repair manuals from the Documents section of this website. My trailer might not have had stickers, but it came with these two lovely books of information! I'm sure that you'll find them very helpful.
FYI, the solar panel on a Uhaul is only meant to keep the battery from corroding between rentals - its not meant to charge the battery . (Uhaul was in the camper rental business in the 80's.) Enjoy your trailer
Raya L.
Oct 13 2009, 05:52 PM
QUOTE (Pam Garlow @ Oct 13 2009, 09:45 PM)

FYI, the solar panel on a Uhaul is only meant to keep the battery from corroding between rentals - its not meant to charge the battery.
I would agree, except with substituting the word "discharging" for
corroding.
Gary P
Oct 15 2009, 05:26 AM
Well, in my original post I stated "No Leaks". (as was told to me by the seller)
Unfortunately, Not the case.
After 2 straight days of rain I find that I have 4 leaky windows.
3 of the windows are leaking from the rusted out felt channels and the rear window seems to be leaking from the top, under the rubber seal.
I found the link to the rubber channel source and I will order those.
There is also a window seal that is shown in the "U-Haul Trailer Repair Manual" that I need for all of the windows. I can't find any source on those. Any ideas?
I'm not sure if the new rubber channels will fix the leak or if I need to replace the "seals".
The problem is I can't find the identical window seals used on the U-Haul.
By the way, the manuals I downloaded here are invaluable. It really gives you a head start on figuring these things out without a lot of guessing.
Now I will have to wait on the cushions and the flooring until I solve the leaking problem.
CindyL
Oct 15 2009, 05:47 AM
Gary:
Are these what you need?
http://www.perfectfit.com/15594/156059/Gla...ked-Lining.html product AS1268
If so, thanks to Ami, owner of a 16' VT who found them.
CindyL
Gary P
Oct 15 2009, 05:52 AM
Thanks CindyL.
Yes and no.
That is the rubber channel part I am going to order but the "window seal" is the part I can't find.
I was wondering if I even need the "window seal" part at all to stop the leaks.
Pat B Ohio
Oct 15 2009, 06:09 AM
I used the putty tape on my leaky front and rear windows. I have yet to tackle the sides. There is a major design flaw in the windows. Make sure your trailer is level, the drip holes are clean. The inside flange is not very tall in relation to the gutter. When they put on the screen the rivet holes may be the source of your leak. Good Luck.
Gary P
Oct 15 2009, 06:16 AM
Here is a picture of the seal I am looking for.
I can see what you mean about the design flaw.
I removed the screen and the lip needs to be taller on the inside of the windows.
The lip is the same on the inside as it is on the outside.
The water seems to be "wicking" up between the window and the screen.
From the manual, it looks like the seal I need is an upgrade from a square seal with no lip on it that was used earlier.
I may have to make something up to replace it.
Raya L.
Oct 15 2009, 08:47 AM
Another option is to replace the side windows with "regular" ones that don't utilize a rubber lip seal. I researched this for my (recently sold) U-haul, and found that the windows Scamp sells were very likely to be a fit. (IIRC they were exactly the same side-to-side and 1/2" smaller top to bottom. That difference might very well be accounted for by the lip seal; so they might fit just fine as is, or at worst, might require a very small amount of fiberglassing that would subsequently be covered up by the window frame.
A bonus is that you then have the choice of sliding windows, or jalousie windows (my eternal favorite as I like being able to keep them open rain or shine (or "might rain should I close the window or not; oh wait, I don't have to worry about that").
I priced the same windows from Buccaneer and other companies. and they were going to be around $450 apiece or more; from Scamp parts department (who must buy in volume), they were about $125 for the sliders and $135 for the jalousie. I think there was about a $20 crating fee, but that would cover two windows if ordered at the same time.
If I had kept the U-haul, I would have gone that way. Then you can put the windows in with butyl tape, just like everyone else, and also re-seal them when the time comes, with the only "degradable" part being the butyl tape that is easily replaceable - not a rubber seal that is part of the window.
Of course you would want to measure and decide for yourself.
That was my thought, anyway, so I thought I'd post the information.
Raya
Gary P
Oct 15 2009, 09:03 AM
Raya,
Thanks for the comments.
I was wondering what it would cost to just replace the windows.
I'm not sure which way to go at this point.
CindyL
Oct 15 2009, 09:37 AM
Raya and Gary:
No one on uhaulcamper.com has been able to use Scamp windows for UHauls that I am aware of.
Gary, my husband solved our leaks with the suggested redrilling of the drip thingys. Try a PM to Ami; he redid his windows and was able to find what he needed. You could also pay the membership over on uhaulcamper and search the archives. This is a common problem with several threads from different people on how they resolved the issue.
CindyL
Gary P
Oct 15 2009, 09:45 AM
Thanks for all of the comments and suggestions.
At the very least, I have to replace the channel rubber anyway.
I have removed one of the screens and I see why the rivet holes can easily leak.
I am going to redo all of the screens and see if that will work.
I'll post my results later.
Scott S.
Oct 15 2009, 09:48 AM
great find Gary,
I did the cushions on mine and they weren't that tough. go for it!
let me know what you do with the stove top. I was thinking of getting it powdered coated but I'm not sure how that will hold up.
Raya L.
Oct 15 2009, 09:53 AM
QUOTE (CindyL @ Oct 15 2009, 01:37 PM)

No one on uhaulcamper.com has been able to use Scamp windows for UHauls that I am aware of.
Cindy,
I have a couple of questions, assuming that we are all talking about the side dinette windows (or were they trying to replace other windows?):
1) Do you mean that they tried and failed? Or that no-one has actually ordered them and had them in hand to try them?
2) Do you know more specifically what the problem(s) were? That would be really useful information. Perhaps it's something that can't be overcome; on the other hand, it may be something relatively easy to solve for, once we know what the problem was.
Thanks for the info.
Raya
Gary P
Oct 15 2009, 09:56 AM
ScottS,
I am going to look into powdercoating the stovetop in a "stainless steel" color.
Jeanne and Steve
Oct 15 2009, 10:32 AM
Hi Gary,
Congrats, your U-Haul looks great! I look forward to seeing your upcoming mods.
Regarding your quest for outside window molding; I posted our
pretty-good solution earlier, and have included it below.
Here's the link to the part we ordered (# 009-057). If anyone has a better solution I'd
love to hear about it!
Cindy: like Raya, I'm very curious why Scamp's replacement windows didn't work in U-Hauls.
best wishes,
Jeanne
QUOTE (Jeanne and Steve @ Apr 10 2007, 08:30 AM)

We bought rubber molding (part # 009-057) from Interstate Metal Fabricators. Among other things, they are suppliers of replacement Hehr window parts.
Interstate Metal Fabricators
13509 S E Johnson Road
Milwaukie, OR 97222
(503) 786-8860
email:info[at]interstatemetals.com
It isn't a perfect fit because it's actually made for thicker windows than the U-Haul has, and as a result it bunches up a little bit around the corners and doesn't quite meet the windowpane, but it's a huge improvement over nothing at all. Here's what it looks like in place:
Click to view attachmentGood luck!
Jeanne
Gary P
Oct 15 2009, 11:40 AM
Jeanne,
That looks darn close to the original.
I think I'll give it a try.
What do you mean Pretty-Close ? Does it still leak?
Jeanne and Steve
Oct 15 2009, 12:05 PM
Gary- the side windows do still leak, but I haven't installed our new glass channels yet and I think it's the old channels that are causing the leaks. The rubber molding is a pretty good fit because it doesn't quite meet the glass, but it's pretty close!
Jeanne
edited to add: I hope no one thinks our beloved U-Haul is getting waterlogged inside... It has a nice dry home and only got a little wet inside when I gave it a vigorous washing!
CindyL
Oct 15 2009, 02:02 PM
I may be wrong about Scamp windows; I don't know. I don't have time right now to search a lot at uhaulcamper.com. Their search function is not the greatest. I searched for "window" and was told that it was too simple to work as a search word??!! I just thought I remembered that it was mentioned that they did not work. I certainly do not remember anyone over there saying that they used Scamp windows. I remember one who had windows fabricated by a car shop and another who used a kind of plexiglass.
CindyL
Jeanne and Steve
Oct 15 2009, 02:18 PM
Thanks Cindy for clarifying that.
best wishes,
Jeanne
Gary P
Oct 16 2009, 01:16 PM
I can't do anything about the windows until I get some seals so I put in the Fantastic Vent today.
The UHaul already has a 14"x14" hole so it was basically a drop in installation.
Here are a few pics from the installation:
First is the old Swamp Cooler hanging .
Second is the empty hole from below.
Third is the hole from above.
Fourth is the vent screwed in and ready to hook up the wiring.
more in next post...
Gary P
Oct 16 2009, 01:23 PM
Fantastic Vent install pics:
First is the vent is wired and trim piece installed.
Second is the vent completed from the top.
The whole job took 2 hours.
Donna D.
Oct 16 2009, 04:28 PM
Looks great Gary

I love it when folks such as yourself share pictures.
Gary P
Oct 17 2009, 07:50 AM
Thanks...
I will post things as I go along with the project.
I am unsure whether I need to add to this thread or start a new one with each part of the project.
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