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Old 06-25-2009, 04:24 PM   #15
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Here's a few more pics - 3500 OBO

Thoughts?? Going in a few hours to take a look!

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Mike and Heather
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:44 PM   #16
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"Thoughts"?

I'd say the second one, the one you are going to look at, is a much better proposition just from the photos. It's more original and more easily restorable to original which you have indicated you wanted to do. You prefer the frenched tail-lights. It's cheaper.

Do you have the Buyer's checklist and cash in hand?
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Old 06-25-2009, 05:47 PM   #17
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"Thoughts"?

I'd say the second one, the one you are going to look at, is a much better proposition just from the photos. It's more original and more easily restorable to original which you have indicated you wanted to do. You prefer the frenched tail-lights. It's cheaper.

Do you have the Buyer's checklist and cash in hand?
Hey Clive - I have the buyer's checklist from this site, and I'm bringing a flashlight and camera. No cash in hand, but a check. Insurance places here are closed at this time, and we need to have the papers to insure it, meaning another trip.

You pointed out some good things - it's good to hear it from somewhere else sometimes. As much as I like the yellow one, we'd repaint it anyway. Doing some work on the second one appeals to me more.

Any items on these that are notorious 'problem areas' that you're aware of? Just waiting for my wife to come home and we're off.

Thanks!
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:15 PM   #18
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Frame, frame, frame... check the frame. Before pulling away make sure the bearings are good to go (along with the tires... including the spare). Taillights are in working order when hooked to the tug?

Best of luck, we just want to make sure you get home safely. And don't forget to post big ole smilie pictures soon!

On edit: I see you mentioned the frame and bearings in one of your posts, so you already know what to check
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:23 PM   #19
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What I find frustrating is that there isn't one well presented 'guide' to these beautiful trailers. I've been developing websites since 1999 and been a graphic designer for over 15 years (not blowing smoke at all) I only mention this because I feel it would be great to create a site that was presented like a 1950s/60s Bachelor pad (or Bachelorette) coffee table book "Boler - an illustrated history" or something to that effect. I was desperately trying to find a graphic 'timeline' showing specs of different years, different features, colors, etc. Anyway - just thinking out loud. I may have to put something together in my spare time (that may be short-lived with a baby on the way!) -

Food for thought.
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Fiberglass Travel Trailer Documentary. After meeting Matt, I think he's going to have a great product!
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:26 PM   #20
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Thanks Donna - great advice. I'm bringing a flashlight to check underneath - aside from looking for cracks or breaks I guess there's no other way to tell. We're going to hook up the lights, but the current owner doesn't know about the bearings or axle - not really sure what to look for there.

Hopefully it's in decent shape - the trek is 2 hrs, so if the bearings will hold out, we can check/change them at home. I've also read that the floors can be rotted if water's got in, but have also read that the 74 has a fiberglass floor...I guess we'll see.

I'll post again in the am with news +/- - thanks again,

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Old 06-25-2009, 07:23 PM   #21
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What ever you do, which ever trailer you buy now or later. it is exciting. The way they evoke our interest is fascinating. Its one of the reasons , I keep working on ours to make it work. Have fun and enjoy.
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:15 PM   #22
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I'm confused, looking at the home page gallery, we've featured a Boler 32 times. And there's like 14 or 15 Boler pictures in the Albums.
What am I missing??
The pictures in the gallery are ALL of 17 footers except one. There were a lot less 17's made. but they always get more attention. Maybe bigger is better.
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Old 06-25-2009, 10:09 PM   #23
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You can find a few pics of my '69 boler by searching for one of my first posts last year. Search for "Flat roof boler" or "Boler #99". I have a few more of another flat roof that someone here was selling last year, but I don't have time to post right now. There were a few of us here with the early ones.

Everyone's observations seem to be correct, plus - the whole door handle doesn't look original, door hinges definitely not original, hatch door on the front bench compartment not original, looks like there's no ice box, just a cupboard door - kind of looks like there never was one installed, cusion covers may not be original.

But none of this matters unless you are looking for an original stock flat top boler, in which case you'd have a lot of undoing to do with this one. However, it could be a long time before you come across another one. As father of a toddler and another one on the way I definitely recommend you get one which you will be happy to use as is for a few years. I haven't noticed any increased value associated with our trailers being in 'original stock' condition. Oh, remember the flat roofs have lower headroom, only about 5'9".

A book would be a great. This website's moderators and members are an amazing source of info. People like 'Roy in TO' are doing a lot of work compiling as much historical detail as possible. Everything I've ever found written about the first couple years of Boler are taken from exactly 2 old articles and a lot of hearsay. There are some inaccurasies as well, which I hope to sort out with Roy one day.

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Old 06-25-2009, 11:51 PM   #24
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Thanks for the comments again. Kent - I notice your in the Okanagan..we're just in Summerland - maybe we'll cross paths here one day.

Well....it's 1030 pm here now and we just arrived back from our trek to Merrit to see the 1974. It was sold in my mind before even seeing it. I envisioned us driving off into the sunset with it smiling all the way back. Unfortunately it was pretty rough on the inside. As thrilled as I was (infatuated perhaps) with the idea, it just wasn't worth the price, to us.

The first thing I noticed was the interior. From what I understand, the Ensolite interior is smooth for cleaning/wiping, but this had all been stripped out (or was never there). What was in its place was a 3-4mm foam glued onto the fiberglass. Between the seams was some type of foam filler (looked like a material that had been spread between the seams). Behind the cabinets, the seams were just butted together. It was a rough spongy foam-like material that had been painted over. The gas regulator was shot as well, and there was no battery, so we couldn't even test the lights etc. Upon inspecting the under carriage, I noticed about a half dozen pieces of steel welded to the frame for support - most likely to repair cracks, but it could have been preventative (although the latter seems unlikely) - kind of like sewing a patch on your knee just in case you get a hole, in my mind.

The cupboards were all varnished plywood with no fasteners, so I can imagine them flying open on the road - an easy fix/replacement, but the list just kept getting longer. Missing light lenses, cracked tail lights, some cracked fiberglass, all chrome on the exterior, i.e., the rain strip above the door was all beaten up, and around every window, the black seal had gobs of caulking around them.

At the end of the day, everything inside me said 'not worth 3K'. I'd read some posts here that talked about value, and inflated Boler prices. In my mind, for 3K a person should be able to jump in and go. For a new battery, lights etc. and just the basics to take a camping trip, I'd guess we'd need to spent 4-500 right off the bat.

I'm pretty project oriented, but this was a little too much for the price. As dismayed as I was to leave empty handed, I know I would feel worse bringing that one home...it just wasn't the right one for us. A retired guy with more know-how, kids gone, home renos done...I'd say a perfect project. Us, however, are on the other side of that coin .

So....I'm back to the yellow beauty. Yes it's 1500 more, but we'd have to spend far more to bring this one up to speed, not to mention the 'labor of love' element. It will be fun to tinker with the 69 - small projects, and I'm not so much concerned about taking it back to original as I am with revealing some chrome, getting the hinges and handles back on and enjoying USING it and being comfortable.

Thanks for all the info so far! Sorry for the long winded post...I'll be sure to post again if we bring the 69 home - I think I'm obsessed now....
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Hi Kevin H
What is you're frame like? I was told that the first ones were different. Is your floor flat or does it have the step like the later models?
Hope to meet you at Emily.
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The pictures in the gallery are ALL of 17 footers except one. There were a lot less 17's made. but they always get more attention. Maybe bigger is better.
The albums are a feature that show stock (or as close to stock) trailers as we can get pictures of. It's not a place for camping pictures or ones that display fancy (non-stock) awnings/canopies, theme decorated, lawn chairs, the family dog or fancy tug. Sure there's lots of pictures on the forums of 13 foot Bolers, but few that meet the album criteria. The point of the albums is if someone is looking to buy a trailer and doesn't have any idea what they look like, we need to display a trailer that the individual may find for sale. There are other places in the forums for paint jobs, camping photos etc.

Does this help?
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Mike . I have sent you a PM. Open to sharing our story and offer some thoughts after a lifetime of camping and having been through three trailers before our Fiberglass one.
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Mike . I have sent you a PM. Open to sharing our story and offer some thoughts after a lifetime of camping and having been through three trailers before our Fiberglass one.
Hi Kent - just emailed you back. Looking forward to chatting with you and to hear your perspective on the FG trailers vs others. My wife keeps asking me 'are you sure' - wouldn't you rather a tent trailer or a (steel beast as I call them) - I'm completely sold on the FG. Again, it'll be good to hear about your experiences.

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