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Old 09-15-2015, 06:08 PM   #29
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the bed bath routine....

got me thinking of when I was shopping....just another story that might help the OP in his proicess...

I wanted a trailer that was "as small as I could stand it"...because I wanted to do a lot of travelling/exploring "in the bush" (logging roads)

Single axle was a priority right from the start. I wanted the manouverability to handle tight places in the bush as well as negotiate parking lots in towns with ease. If you ever get the chance have a close look at a tandem axle trailer backing into a parking spot.... The less cost in tires/brakes was just a bonus.

I wanted a full bathroom....after years of small boat cruising the "luxury"/possibility of having your own shower was just too good to pass up for me....and I hate schlepping through a campground with a towel around my neck and a shaving kit under my arm (some people mind the stinky slinky... that don't bother me at all....but I hate campground showers)

And that's how the bed thing got settled....the combination of a single axle trailer (3500GVW) with a full bathroom meant that a permanent bed was pretty well out of the question....I decided that making up the bed every night was just going to be in my future and I spent some time and effort to make that daily process as painless as possible.....the BF17 has really two large single beds (the RV world calls a 41 inch bed a "double" (????) not in my world)....so I did a bed mod to deal with that......and I was done. If i'm travelling alone I use one of the beds as designed...2 up, I deploy the mod.

Keep in mind that BFs (1500 series, pre 2005) are on the heavier side compared to other "eggs"....and that brings up another point...BFs aren't really "eggs" at all... they have a large frontal area that will rob some MPGs compared to "real" eggs.....but you can climb on the roof of my BF and do a jig up there if you so chose....they are thick....(lots of storage contained in those square top corners too BTW)

there is no free lunch

good luck in your search
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:27 PM   #30
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My wife and I live in southern IL. Don't know where in KY you live but fairly pretty close I presume. Having always camped in tents, my wife and I are pretty new to the egg camping experience and consequently new to the forums. We did a lot of research as you are doing, but needed to bite the bullet and act. (Bed pre-made, bathroom, frig and A/C to top the list for us). Last fall, we purchased a 2013 17' Casita SD site unseen (shame on us), from a couple in AZ who had health problems and needed to sell their egg. We had to drive over 1,200 mile one way to get our egg. We couldn't be happier. Then she found a better TV for our egg, a 2012 Ford F-150 with 60,000 miles on it. We came in just a couple hundred $ over our budget of $25,000 similar to your quest. Keep doing research and keep active on the forums. you will find what you want. Just enjoy and don't compare or wish you had something different.

Also, FYI, there is an egg rally at Land Between the Lakes in KY from October 1-4, which could help you narrow down your search. We are unable to attend but you might get some ideas of what you want.

happy travels...jon & Skip (aka Louise)
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:58 PM   #31
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How heavy are you willing to go with a larger trailer?
Lets just say bigger than a 17.5 Bigfoot
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:23 PM   #32
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Hi All,

Ray, you keep introducing me to "hot button" issues!!! It looks like there are a few. Yup, I bet there are lots of opinions about tow vehicles. I agree with you that reliability of the tow vehicle is important. I am also a big Consumer Reports fan. I was just reading a recent issue of Motor Trend that included their 2016 Truck and Sport Utility data on vehicles. I have subscribed to Motor Trend for about 30 years. I used to lust after sports cars. Now. I lust over a tug!!! I, too, love my Honda Fit, but not to tow! Thanks for your experiences regarding your Ford Escape as well as your comments regarding torque moving RVs.

Carol H, looks like you will have some decision making as well regarding increasing trailer size and the impact on maintaining or upgrading the TV.

David, I will keep an eye out for 80s 19 ft Bigfoots as well as 17 ft units. Heck for that matter, I am keeping an eye out for anything fiberglass on two or more wheels!

Francois, I like your comment "as small as I can stand it". My DW and I are approaching our first rig the same way. For us, that may mean a 16' to 17' first rig, but until we "see" more rigs, we are not ruling anything out. Love some of those small Scamps. Must have a bathroom, though!!! I have read pros and cons about single vs double axles. I will need to study that issue more. We think we want a bed area separate from a small dinette. You are right, "there is no free lunch"!!!

Jon, my DW and I are in southcentral KY. I love your Casita '17 SD and Ford F150 combo. That would be a great combo for my DW and I as well, I believe. Yup, my DW and I are going to take a day or two to go to the LBL Rally! It will be our first rally!!! We are so excited. Several folks with the rally have really encouraged us to attend. Very nice.

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Old 09-15-2015, 11:48 PM   #33
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Carol H, looks like you will have some decision making as well regarding increasing trailer size and the impact on maintaining or upgrading the TV.
Actually currently trying to avoid the hard decision & continuing to buy lotto tickets in hopes my numbers come up and I can buy my dream tow vehicle - a VW Touareg.

Over the years I have towed with a couple of trucks as well as other types of vehicles and although I currently pull with a truck I am not of the fraternity that believes them to be the cats meow when it comes to towing.
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Old 09-16-2015, 03:18 AM   #34
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Actually currently trying to avoid the hard decision & continuing to buy lotto tickets in hopes my numbers come up and I can buy my dream tow vehicle - a VW Touareg.

Over the years I have towed with a couple of trucks as well as other types of vehicles and although I currently pull with a truck I am not of the fraternity that believes them to be the cats meow when it comes to towing.
Wow, it is a rare occasion when we are on the same page Carol. .... A VW T-Reg or BMW X5 would make an exceptional TV for almost any trailer, any size, but as Dean stated re the Consumer Report data, reliability and cost factor come into play and is not great for these vehicles.

My next choice would be a Toyota Sienna or Honda Oddy mini van followed by a Ford Edge or Flex, all of which we know can safely, and reliably tow some good sized TT's when set up optimally. Some cars work great too. Ref towing specialist articles and test reports.

Re pickups, I also agree, will tow a trailer down the road but with reservations. For what they are capable of they are too large and lack precise handling which plays a big part in trailer towing control and stability.


Of course there are many other top rated TV's and it comes down to personal preferences.
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Re pickups, I also agree, will tow a trailer down the road but with reservations. For what they are capable of they are too large and lack precise handling which plays a big part in trailer towing control and stability.Of course there are many other top rated TV's and it comes down to personal preferences.
Wayne, I have to chuckle a bit to the posts I read of folks that kind of state, let me say, that cars are the only TV for comfort. Got to say that I'm on the other end of that thought. After over 100 vehicles I am way more comfortable in a truck, doing anything. Not saying that many cars can't be good tugs but some folks like me don't like driving cars. I'm comfortable towing with a truck and not really comfortable driving/riding in a car. Everyones level is different and if the reason is squeezing out the extra MPG for example, that isn't something I worry about. Like they say if it's marine or RV related it's going to cost more to play. What do they say about having a boat, break out another thousand . As is mentioned often, YMMV.
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I understand what you are saying Dave and due to the popularity of pickups you stand with a large crowd.

My sis has a Hummer H2. There is nothing I like about this big, heavy, top heavy vehicle. I am not comfortable driving it on the highway.

The thing with some cars as TV are concerned is they do have better handling, shorter stopping distances, and when not towing many, like you suggested have good fuel mileage. Different strokes for different folks. I get it.
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My next choice would be a Toyota Sienna or Honda Oddy mini van followed by a Ford Edge or Flex, all of which we know can safely, and reliably tow some good sized TT's when set up optimally. Some cars work great too. Ref towing specialist articles and test reports.

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My choose of tow vehicle if I were going to tow something in the 4000lb range would be the Toyota Highlander. I know a few people towing with them and they are very happy campers. I believe it has a 5000lb tow spec.
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My choose of tow vehicle if I were going to tow something in the 4000lb range would be the Toyota Highlander. I know a few people towing with them and they are very happy campers. I believe it has a 5000lb tow spec.
You can't beat the reliability of a Toyota.
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The thing I like most about my 4Runner isn't the gas mileage, or the tow capacity, or the comfort. The thing I like most is the son of a gun is paid for.
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Wayne, I have to chuckle a bit to the posts I read of folks that kind of state, let me say, that cars are the only TV for comfort. Got to say that I'm on the other end of that thought. After over 100 vehicles I am way more comfortable in a truck, doing anything. Not saying that many cars can't be good tugs but some folks like me don't like driving cars.
Dave, I actually do like driving my truck as well. Something to be said about sitting a bit higher and being able to see a lot more of whats happening ahead. It also been my experience that many of the new trucks are just as darn comfortable to do a 14 hour road trip in if not more so than many cars. Actually did a couple of such trips in a new Ford F150 last winter and it was a VERY comfortable ride. I was not any less comfortable as a passanger than when I taking a trip in an Audi R8.

Gas milage on many of the new vehicles/trucks is pretty impressive as well so I agree the using the gas argument for going with an under speced tow vehicle really doesn't cut it these days either.

I suspect whether or not the truck is for you are not comes down to what else you do with the vehicle when not towing & if you only have the luxury of owning one vehicle that needs to meet all your needs.

For me living in a city finding a parking spot for the truck when shopping in a city can be more than just a bit of a pain. Finding an underground parking spot in downtown that has the roof clearance is also a challenge. Getting in and out of the truck in high heels and a dress can also be an interesting experience which I can appreciate most guys here probable have never had the experience of. Then again perhaps some have! Frequently having to load up an elderly relative into the cab of a truck can also be less than fun & having to man handle a walker up & over into the back of the truck and retrieve it frequently can get old fast. Having to crawl into the back of the truck in a dress or other good clothing to retrieve items that have slid in the box up towards the cab isn't fun either. Last but not least if you live in an area where you do a lot of driving in the snow a truck is going to be your least favourable vehicle in regards to its ability to perform real well in such conditions.

Bottom line is in my experience trucks are not the only vehicle choose one has if wanting a very solid and safe tow. In fact I dare to suggest there are in fact alternative vehicles that may give a more solid tow under all towing conditions. For me having a rock solid tow set up in all conditions translates to comfort - due to less stress.

Trucks may be a good choose for some but perhaps not so for others.
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The thing I like most about my 4Runner isn't the gas mileage, or the tow capacity, or the comfort. The thing I like most is the son of a gun is paid for.
yup that is always REAL good thing regardless of what the tow vehicle is!
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Hey, I have not had a car payment for two years!!! That is soooooo nice. However, it is that college tuition for one daughter the last couple of years and two daughters next year that is slowing down our TT & TV purchase!!! That is why I am trying to learn as much now from you folks, so I can be ready to "haul" in a couple of years or so. I have been a college professor for 25 years. I have been a parent paying for college tuition for the last two plus years. Yikes, tuition is EXPENSIVE and that cost does not show up in my salary!!!
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