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Old 02-26-2012, 09:59 AM   #197
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My wife and I are planning our first trip to the Canadian Rockies , then west to the Pacific coast , then south along the west coast to San Mateo California and then back to Wisconsin . The total trip will be about 6000 miles . My wife wants to accomplish this in two weeks or about 450 miles a day , I want to take 5 to 6 weeks or about 150 miles per day (AVERAGE) I know the gas cost will be the same either way but 8 hours behind the wheel for 14 straight days is not my idea of a vacation ( My wife does NOT drive towing a trailer) Plus by taking 5 to 6 weeks I can spread my costs out over a longer period allowing my pension income to keep pace with my expenditures. I also can utilize less expensive campgrounds because my travel schedule is more flexible . I do not want to turn retirement into an 8 hour a day job PLUS Norm's way of traveling seems like it would be far more enjoyable and gives you a chance to really see the country not just view it through your windshield

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The last time we had gas at $4.25+ we did a three week 5800 mile trip to Oregon/Washington State from Illannoy. Our daily cost for fuel approached $75 and our lodging averaged only $8 per night. Your plan of staying longer at each stop is a good one and gives you a chance to explore the areas through which you travel, making the trip a better value and stretching your expenses.
40 years ago we took a car/motel trip to Myrtle Beach NC and spent about $8 a day for fuel and $75 a night for lodging!
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Old 02-26-2012, 10:04 AM   #198
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$4.37 a gallon in Fresno, California
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Old 02-26-2012, 10:34 AM   #199
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I agree 100%.
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I don't think she wants to go.
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Old 02-26-2012, 12:20 PM   #201
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Maybe she can fly home midway and you continue on yourself. This may give her an out if that is what she really wants.
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I don't think she wants to go.
My wife is one of those individuals who knows what she does NOT want or does NOT like but can NOT tell you what she does want or does like . Being male and very poor at mind reading this leads to difficulties . I just plan and hope for the best . After 42 years of marriage I can't see either of us changing the way we think and so it goes with life, you do your best
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Steve,

When I suggested we stop working and take up RVing it was sort of ignored by Ginny until I looked at our first RV. She literally went momentarily catatonic.

When we hit the road, well before our pensions, social security and real medical insurance, Ginny quickly got into the swing of it, began to relax and integrate into the magic of our new life style.

She quickly realized how good it was for my mental and physical health and her's as well. Then there is just day after day of the special stimulation that is life on the road.

Living in a trailer is different than living at home, actually if you do not try to replicate home, it is much simpler. You cook less, you clean less and you wash fewer clothes and things.

Most importantly there is time to think, read and experience.

Yes it's true that you give up some old friends and seeing the family all the time, but on the whole most of them are happy for you, though they can't understand our new life, they can hear and read the joy we express.

We've been at it for 11 years and there is a magic that hard to explain. One needs to relax, almost like being transported to a new planet, and absorb the difference.

I hope your trip turns out well, the slower you go the more you can relax and enjoy the trip. I know it's not for everyone, in a measure it means dropping some of what you were and becoming a little broader, a little more accepting, actually a little child like.

With great hopes for your trip......
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A big Amen to that. Mine is 45 years in the making and exactly the same.
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Old 02-26-2012, 01:20 PM   #205
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Steve and Darwin,

We're in year 48 of our marrige plus 7 years of friendship and dating before.

It is difficult for people to move from what they know to choosing the unknown. People need help in these transitions. I will also say I've changed more than Ginny during our 11 years, more relaxed and more accepting of anything and everyone. In the process of developing our new life style I've tried to be less of what I was and more of what I can be.

Today we went out to a Mexican Restuarant for lunch in Pecos, TX. Forty eight years ago we had not even tasted Mexican food. Actually my wife had barely tasted Italian and never Chinese food. Now we eat everything and continually develop a love of hot and spicy foods.

Pecos has become an interesting place. On our last visit in 2009 Pecos was a dying community of 7,000 now it's the second fastest growing town in it's category nationally.

The RV park we're in is full, save for a few spots they save for Escapee travelers, last time it was nearly empty. Now it gets calls daily from people looking for 12 spots...

This is a farm area, actually know for it's cantalopes despite it's overall look of a dry, browness. Today the landscape is dotted with at least 20 huge oil well rigs, drilling for the stuff that keeps me moving.

What a transformation of us and Pecos......
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Is it The RV park west of the Pecos?
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We're staying in the Escapees Trapark near the country club on the west side. $13.50 a night. Spending a couple of days just to catchup on my writing. This morning we drove from well driller to well driller watching them drill and feed pipe down the well. We are easy to amuse.

We did visit Langtry, TX, a town of 18 people, home of the Judge Roy Bean where his saloon still stands with a wonderful visitor's center and a great catus garden right off US 90. This little town has a free dry camping location near their community center. I mention that because Pecos has a replica of his saloon.
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I see you understood my last post.
Judge Roy Bean, Law West of the Pecos.
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West of the Pecos

When we reached the Pecos with it's steep high cliffs you had to wonder how the Judge's freight company ever mad it to San Antonio from Langtry. It may be the reason he opened a saloon. From here we're following the Pecos North to Lakewood, NM, also on the Pecos....
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Around here, there was a fire last week at a refinery just S of the border, in Wa State. Seems it was one of bigger refineries on the W coast
Seems that every oil co is going for "efficiency" and so there are virtually no refineries that are running with "excess" capacity - all run at close to 100% capacity
Therefore, the products from the Cherry Point (BP) refinery are now "missing" from the marketplace.
Demand is fairly constant, local supply is a tad pooched and THAT at least is the excuse being given for the humongous increase in prices locally, as we now approach $6.00 per US gallon!
This is the Cherry Point refinery originally built by Arco or Sinclair which became Atlantic Richfield many, many years ago. Many oil companies use Cherry Point as well as the pipeline and tankers, they all cooperate. The oil from Alaska goes through Cherry Point. We actually have an excess of gasoline and especially diesel, which we export world-wide. Most refineries have been operating at 85% efficiency for several years, it's not just a recent thing. Losing Cherry Point will not actually affect the price of oil much at all.

Since deregulation, speculators had driven the prices sky high. We are driving less miles than we have in many years. The current oil prices are basically driven by unregulated speculation and cheap(er) money available, not by our use or lack of use.
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