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08-21-2013, 03:16 PM
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Commercial Member
Trailer: Oliver Legacy
Posts: 80
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a dry bath
I have had several conversations asking if we could convert the closet into a dry bath/shower. Reasons are mainly due to the need of cleaning and wiping everything down after a shower so the toilet can be used without all the water, soap residue,hair etc..
It makes perfectly good sense and am looking into this as a possible option. The main draw back in my mind is losing the storage space of the closet.
Just looking for some input to estimate the possible demand for this.
Thanks
Robert
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08-21-2013, 05:17 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1982 Fiber Stream and 2001 Casita Spirit Deluxe (I'm down to 2!)
Posts: 1,989
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Robert
I have read and re-read your post and I have no idea what you are asking about?
What exactly is a Dry Bath and isn't the entire trailer one?
I really just do not understand?
Ed
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08-21-2013, 05:37 PM
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Moderator
Trailer: Fiber Stream 1978 / Honda Odyssey LX 2003
Posts: 8,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Harris
I really just do not understand?
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This is my interpretation of what Robert was asking:
The 22' Oliver is based on stretching the 17' Oliver, which is based on the 17' Casita Spirit Deluxe floor-plan. Many people consider the bathrooms in these trailers "Wet Baths" as you are standing in the shower stall to use the sink, or use the shower stall as legroom when seated on the toilet. Apparently he has had customers ask to re-configure the space by eliminating the closet in the front corner, and enlarging the bathroom into the vacated closet space. Then a shower curtain or shower door can separate the shower from the rest of the bathroom. Now the toilet and sink are in a "Dry Bath" space as only the shower stall itself would get wet. This is how the 21' Bigfoot is configured; with a separate shower, which I presume is Oliver's competition in this price point.
So the question boils down to: Is is worth loosing closet storage space to gain a shower stall separated from the rest of the bathroom?
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08-21-2013, 05:39 PM
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Senior Member
Name: GP
Trailer: Looking
British Columbia
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As I understand it, in the RV world, where a shower or bath is physically separated from the toilet, the toilet stays dry when you shower and accordingly the arrangement is referred to as a dry bath. In most smaller units, the the toilet sits in the middle of the shower tray, gets wet when you shower and accordingly is referred to as a wet bath.
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08-21-2013, 05:54 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1982 Fiber Stream and 2001 Casita Spirit Deluxe (I'm down to 2!)
Posts: 1,989
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Alrighty then.
Now I get it,thanks.
Not all that intuitive without the explanation though and of course I had no idea who the O.P.was,still don't really?
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08-21-2013, 05:59 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
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Life was simpler back in the days of the dry sink and the water closet. And before that, the crick and Hey there, not so close to the wagon!
I don't mind sponging or squeegeeing walls and wheel wells but I sometimes dream of somebody in Arvee Land providing a shower pan that slopes to the drain.
jack
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08-21-2013, 06:09 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
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. . . and before there was three rooms and bath there was one room and a path.
jack
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08-21-2013, 06:24 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,707
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Harris
Not all that intuitive without the explanation though and of course I had no idea who the O.P.was,still don't really?
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Robert Partee is part of the Oliver trailer manufacturing group.
Robert, I appreciate the fact you come here to FiberglassRV and ask OUR opinions! Truly!!! It's refreshing that a trailer manufacturer wants to know what folks think, before it's done. You have joined a SMALL group of manufacturers that do that here.
I don't need a dry bath. Every inch put into a bathroom of any type has to be taken from someplace else... in this case the closet. My closet is my pantry/cooking implement/coffee maker storage. Wouldn't want to lose that!
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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08-21-2013, 06:36 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2018, 21ft escape— 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie
NW Wisconsin
Posts: 4,500
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I am with Donna on this one . The storage space is much more important than having a dry bath and to me the dry bath offers little advantage
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08-21-2013, 07:26 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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Lance Travel trailers offers a dry bath in their smallest units, a 16' and a 19' trailer, the 1274 and 1575 seen here Travel Trailer Selector | Lance Camper
just drop the sink, put the shower where the toilet is and move the toilet to where the sink was.
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Jim
Never in doubt, often wrong
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08-21-2013, 07:42 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
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The Lance 1274 is the only one without a slide-out. I'll still pass. YMMV
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Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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08-21-2013, 08:03 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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The problem with having a dry bath is that you still have to wipe down the walls and clean the toilet. With a wet bath, that just gets done after a shower.
I use a squeegee and a sponge.
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08-21-2013, 08:14 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
The Lance 1274 is the only one without a slide-out. I'll still pass. YMMV
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I realize that Donna, I was merely pointing out that with proper configuration, a dry bath is possible in a Casita or Scamp or Oliver without taking up any more room that a wet bath does now.
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Jim
Never in doubt, often wrong
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08-21-2013, 08:35 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
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But Jim, do you know of ANY all molded towable that is manufactured with a slide out?
My favorite layout is the Air Stream Eddie Baur Edition, but check out the specs.... that sucker is wide and LONG: Airstream, Inc :: Floorplans
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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08-21-2013, 08:41 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
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The cg in Acadia, Me I went to this summer had 5 identical 25' Airstreams available to rent. I went inside one when it was be prepped for a customer, the cg owner said "these are junk, the outlets are all crooked, the floor is wallpaper on press wood and they are unbearably hot in the summer and cold in the winter due to their metal skin"
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Never in doubt, often wrong
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08-21-2013, 08:46 PM
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Moderator
Trailer: Fiber Stream 1978 / Honda Odyssey LX 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
... put the shower where the toilet is and move the toilet...
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That's what Fiber Stream did. The shower and sink are in "the corner" and the toilet is against the closet wall. They had to have the shower pan custom made for the curve instead of being able to use a square one..
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08-21-2013, 09:14 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Paul
Trailer: '07 Scamp 16' SD
Wisconsin
Posts: 110
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Really I always thought our bathroom designs allowed us to take care of more than one job at a time
Who wouldn't love that lol
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08-21-2013, 11:34 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler (B1700RGH) 1979
Posts: 5,002
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A separate shower would be nice, but not if it is too small to use. If I were to add a closet-sized space to our Boler bathroom, I would rather use it to make a comfortably large wet bath.
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08-21-2013, 11:49 PM
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Moderator
Name: RogerDat
Trailer: 2010 Scamp 16
Michigan
Posts: 3,744
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I know a lot of people seldom use the shower in the camper, nice to have as an alternative when boondocking but not worth the cleanup and hassle if the campground showers are decent.
At 6'1" tall I appreciate a place to sit and wash my hair. I never found wiping down the toilet all that much extra trouble.
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08-22-2013, 06:56 AM
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Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet (Previously 2004 19 ft Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel)
Posts: 91
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Partee
The main draw back in my mind is losing the storage space of the closet
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We do both with the separate shower space in our Bigfoot. Mostly we use it for toiletry storage (stacking plastic containers) and a collapsible laundry hamper because we don't use the shower that much. There is a rod across the top of the shower so I have on occassion put hanging clothes in there too. When we use the shower, I just move the items out temporarily. I always wipe down the shower after use so that would be a wash in terms of time saved.
I never used the shower in my previous Scamp wet bath. There is something more appealing (to me anyway) about the shower being separate. I'll be the first to admit that is likely just what I'm used to.
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