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Old 03-28-2009, 04:40 AM   #113
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The rig is on his way.
Arrival Jacksonville now April 20. Unless the ship is delayed.
You may have look at http://www.hoegh.com/autoliners/schedule/ : from
Amsterdam, to Jacksonville.
We leave home April 7 to embark the QM2 on April 8.
Arrival NY early morning April 14
We 'll go to Penn Station to catch the 3:15 PM train to Jacksonville.
We 'll tour part of Florida in a hired car until the arrival of the rig.
Then heading west to New Orleans
We reserved a pitch at the KOA campground in New Orleans April
27 - May 1.
After visiting the fest in NO we 'll drive up north to Natchez and Memphis.
And then westward. After consulting Mary :-)
We hope it all works out as we planned.

So look for us.
We are driving a black Volvo V70 towing a 3 colored BIOD travel trailer.


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Old 03-28-2009, 05:55 AM   #114
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I am starting from Montreal Canada for Louisiana on may 1 and may be i see you on my road
I suppose to be on Natchez trace may 7 or 8 , if i see your Biod i will make a sign!!!

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Old 04-02-2009, 10:32 AM   #115
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"With a little help of my friends" ;-) I composed a route for the first month.
Please 'shoot' at it

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Old 04-02-2009, 11:54 AM   #116
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"With a little help of my friends" ;-) I composed a route for the first month.
Please 'shoot' at it
It looks like you are going to have a fabulous time!

I'm sure you'll post your photos of the trip and I'm lookimg forward to seeing them.

I'd love to see pics of your rig hitched up. How do you like the V70? Much torque steer?
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Old 04-02-2009, 02:49 PM   #117
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It looks like you are going to have a fabulous time!

I'm sure you'll post your photos of the trip and I'm lookimg forward to seeing them.

I'd love to see pics of your rig hitched up. How do you like the V70? Much torque steer?
I forgot to make photographs when I was driving the rig to the ferry
Hope not to forget at arrival.
We like the V70, it is very comfortable: automatic (not common in Europe), cruise control.
We always had smaller cars before.
What is 'torque steer'?
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:15 PM   #118
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I forgot to make photographs when I was driving the rig to the ferry
Hope not to forget at arrival.
We like the V70, it is very comfortable: automatic (not common in Europe), cruise control.
We always had smaller cars before.
What is 'torque steer'?
Here's a definition ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque_steering

My first Volvo was an automatic. in Scotland. As you say, quite unusual in Europe. Snow tires on it and it was excellent in the snow. Got me places other vehicles were stopped. Never stuck or stranded despite being an automatic, which are supposedly not as good as a stick shift in the snow.
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Old 04-08-2009, 04:45 PM   #119
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Hi Lex and Rita,

I am going to "shoot" at your second map, but I need to go get some ammunition first.

Will probably post a message in Camping, Campout Reports to gain more coverage for my question if people don't reply here. Look for title in that forum called Utah 95 & Cottonwood Canyon Road.

I think your map shows you going down Cottonwood Canyon Road "The Cockscomb" which is gravel or dirt that you probably do not want to take your fiberglass rig down. I doubt I could get Fred to drive that without our trailer. Hope someone reading here will tell us the facts. If no better information comes your way check with officials in the area to see if it is doable. Need to check anyway because as I understand it when those roads are wet they are often not usable.

My second query is your route to Moab, Arches and Canyonlands. My "Guide to Scenic Highways & Byways", 3rd edition, National Geographic, show Hwy 95 between Blanding and Hanksville (The Bicentennial Highway) as being one of the scenic roads. 133 miles long. If people are familiar with the area what is more worthwhile; seeing Moab, Arches and Canyonlands, or doing the shortcut taking Hwy 95?

BTW, I saw Senseo dark roast coffee pucks in my local grocery store. My mind is on hockey pucks as we have a serious competition tomorrow for title.

Do you have wifi on the ship?

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Looks like a wonderful trip. Safe travels. (We hope that you can spare a day or two to visit some of our wonderful beaches on one of the coasts of Florida.... I don't really see anything but Jacksonville on your map for beaches, and the Atlantic coast is very different from the Gulf Coast. The Keys are different from anywhere else in Florida, but a very long drive each way.)

Have a great time!
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Old 04-08-2009, 05:52 PM   #121
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Hi Lex and Rita,

I am going to "shoot" at your second map, but I need to go get some ammunition first.

Will probably post a message in Camping, Campout Reports to gain more coverage for my question if people don't reply here. Look for title in that forum called Utah 95 & Cottonwood Canyon Road.

I think your map shows you going down Cottonwood Canyon Road "The Cockscomb" which is gravel or dirt that you probably do not want to take your fiberglass rig down. I doubt I could get Fred to drive that without our trailer. Hope someone reading here will tell us the facts. If no better information comes your way check with officials in the area to see if it is doable. Need to check anyway because as I understand it when those roads are wet they are often not usable.

My second query is your route to Moab, Arches and Canyonlands. My "Guide to Scenic Highways & Byways", 3rd edition, National Geographic, show Hwy 95 between Blanding and Hanksville (The Bicentennial Highway) as being one of the scenic roads. 133 miles long. If people are familiar with the area what is more worthwhile; seeing Moab, Arches and Canyonlands, or doing the shortcut taking Hwy 95?

BTW, I saw Senseo dark roast coffee pucks in my local grocery store. My mind is on hockey pucks as we have a serious competition tomorrow for title.

Do you have wifi on the ship?

Nancy

Cottonwood road is 40 miles of dirt road. Some of it over sharp shale and the bottom third of it is the worst washboard in the county. It will pop your rivets and if you don't have rivets it will pop other parts. It will take you 50% longer to get to Bryce National park going that way. Just drive through Kanab and up to Bryce and it will be smoother and faster. Give me a holler when you get here and I'll buy you coffee and show you some sites if you have time.

Now... I don't want to tell you where I think you should go or anything... I don't even want to assume you are in Utah for national parks. However if you [b]are coming here for the national parks and you miss Zion National Park you will miss, in my opinion one of the jewels should you pass it up (ranking right behind the Grand Canyon). I would skip Bryce twice to see Zion once (and you can see them both if you come through Kanab).

I've attached your map with my scribbles on it.

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Hi Ron,

That was just the kind of local information I was hoping for.

Personally I like Bryce better than Zion. Except for the walk up the Virgin River when water level is low enough in Zion, that is great. What should I do next time in Zion, since I am obviously missing something?

Oh yeah, did you have any comments on that Hwy 95 instead of Arches and Canyonlands? Maybe what one sees on Hwy 95 is the same stuff you see in Arches and Canyonlands? I think Lex is going the Moab way because I talked him into it. So please voice your opinions.

Another thing I have been talking to Lex about is Wire Pass or Antelope Canyon. I haven't been to Antelope Canyon, but loved Wire Pass. And, can a fiberglass get into White House Campground, or is that just for tents? Is the temp too hot for doing a slot canyon early June?

We all appreciate local knowledge about places.

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Old 04-08-2009, 09:25 PM   #123
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Hi Ron,

That was just the kind of local information I was hoping for.

Personally I like Bryce better than Zion. Except for the walk up the Virgin River when water level is low enough in Zion, that is great. What should I do next time in Zion, since I am obviously missing something?

Oh yeah, did you have any comments on that Hwy 95 instead of Arches and Canyonlands? Maybe what one sees on Hwy 95 is the same stuff you see in Arches and Canyonlands? I think Lex is going the Moab way because I talked him into it. So please voice your opinions.

Another thing I have been talking to Lex about is Wire Pass or Antelope Canyon. I haven't been to Antelope Canyon, but loved Wire Pass. And, can a fiberglass get into White House Campground, or is that just for tents? Is the temp too hot for doing a slot canyon early June?

We all appreciate local knowledge about places.

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I sat here asking myself what or where is White House Campground? I had to go look it up. Nope, never camped there but local stuff is not camping for me.. its only a half day outing max. There is a BLM station right on hwy 89 there and I am sure they can tell you the shape of the road. If you get to the ranger station ask them where the "toad stools" are (right across the road)... much fun little walk to see some very queer geology.

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Next time you are in zion take some of the hikes up into the cliffs. Easy two or three mile walks that get you to a place where you can see (and photograph) the entire span of the canyon. Super beautiful. The type of geology you see in Bryce is pretty much everywhere around here where I live so I guess I don't see it like most visitors do.

Highway 95 is a different route. Not too many people on the road even during high tourist season. I would take it to Moab just so I wouldn't have to look at the 40-50 miles of ugly ugly dead gray clay north of Hanksville to I 70... not a living thing in site.

Wire pass needs a permit. You have to stop at a blm office and see if there is one available for the day you are there. In mid year they sell out every day. Too many people. I never go there anymore in the summer. If you are serious about it call the blm office in kanab and reserve your permit.

Same thing with antelope canyon... waaaay too crowded in summer. I go in winter when the dine' don't show up to collect the fee. Go to lower if you want fewer people. Less red more white/pink but very dynamic shots.

We probably don't agree on Moab either (grin) but skipping canyonlands for arches would be a mistake in my view. Canyonlands is like a scaled down version of the grand canyon where you can actually get some feeling of width and breadth. It is breathtakingly big but at least you can *see* how big it is. The GC is so vast you cant get perspective.

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Thanks for the information Ron. Looking forward to someday hiking up in Zion to see the view you are talking about.

https://www.blm.gov/az/asfo/paria/index.htm

I checked and there are 20 passes issued for overnight use in Buckskin Gulch per day. The $6.00 day use fee has no visitor limit and you can pay that at the trailhead. Wire Pass is just the little side canyon feeding into Buckskin Gulch. I enjoyed just using the day pass and spending a little bit of time, not overnight. We missed seeing your "toad stools". Looking forward to seeing those in the future.

Yeah, I kind of figure the drive to and from Moab would not be interesting. But for me seeing Canyonlands and Arches is worth the boring drive.

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I checked and there are 20 passes issued for overnight use in Buckskin Gulch per day. The $6.00 day use fee has no visitor limit and you can pay that at the trailhead. Wire Pass is just the little side canyon feeding into Buckskin Gulch. I enjoyed just using the day pass and spending a little bit of time, not overnight. We missed seeing your "toad stools". Looking forward to seeing those in the future.

Nancy
Things have changed in the 8 years when I first hiked it.. either that or this is another senior moment in my recollection. I never hike in there from House Rock Road anymore. I 4x4 up to within 1/2 mile of the wave from the east side. Only have to climb a few hundred feet.

Anyone who gets out this way and you have a 4x4 suitable for [b]deep sand message me and I'll tell you how to get the wave the easy way... and White Pockets too.

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Old 04-12-2009, 12:30 AM   #126
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When you get to Little Rock, Arkansas, please consider traveling a bit farther east to Petit Jean State Park near Morrilton. I was there for the first time last month and I really enjoyed it. Pleasant short hikes and nice scenery. The park is up high, with many overlooks. I just uploaded 5 photos of the park to my esnips album, have a look. The valleys were filled with fog in the morning, which made for some interesting photos. One can view Cedar Falls from the top or from down below. My campsite, as you can see, was right on the edge of a small lake. I am looking forward to returning to Petit Jean sometime soon.

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