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Old 07-27-2011, 05:22 PM   #1
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Unhappy A word of warning

Not to be overly concerned, but just so everyone knows:

Mountain Lion Attacks On People in the U.S. and Canada

What concerns me is 'the authorites' are in denial.

I suppose it also would apply to bears.

Making it difficult for hunters does two things:

1. Increases the number of prey animals, rabbits, deer, etc.

2. Increases the number of predatory animals.
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Not sure what the argument here is? Are we to be more worried or less worried about mountain lions?

It seems as though they present an exceedingly low risk to just about everybody except rabbits and deer, but should be treated with a very very healthy respect, care, and probably some sensible fear if you're in their territory.

I think I would pee my pants in excitement to see one in the wild and would faint dead away if I ever got a chance to photograph one.
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I had a bobcat in my front yard a few months ago...
I didn't let the chickens out that day!
Cougars are relatively common too here on the Olympic Peninsula. Something to watch out for when hiking with children or small dogs...
The only human-wildlife fatality here in the recent past involved a mountain goat whose superiority was challenged by a hiker:
Outdoors | Mountain goat kills man in Olympic National Park | Seattle Times Newspaper

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Hi: Francesca Knowles... Support "Wildlife"...throw a party!!!
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Hi, Alf

The eagles, coyotes, and hawks around here are partyin' down on free-range chickens just about every day...
and don't get my husband started about the time we were sitting on our deck watching an osprey fly by with a perfectly aerodynamically positioned trout from our pond clutched in his talons...

I swear the wildlife around here eats better than we do, most days!

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A mountain lion was killed in Connecticut this weekend by an SUV. The mountain lions genetics were tested and it was determined that he had come from a group in the Dakotas, a 1500 mile hike. Though CT has about 600 people per square mile it has loads of deer.

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A mountain lion was killed in Connecticut this weekend by an SUV. The mountain lions genetics were tested and it was determined that he had come from a group in the Dakotas, a 1500 mile hike. Though CT has about 600 people per square mile it has loads of deer.

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This is pretty cool - not that it was killed, but that they're repopulating the east.

Recently the eastern cougar was finally, finally declared extinct - it not having been documented alive for, oh, a hundred years or so. All mountain lions we see west of the mississippi are members of the western subspecies that is moving east into favorable territory as their numbers expand.
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I saw that too Norm, 1500 miles. Wow, that was something looking at it's path on a map.
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Although I've hiked and camped here for over 40 years, this was the first time I ever saw a bear in Colorado. There was a much bigger than normal snowpack in the high mountains, so this has forced a number of predators into lower elevations to hunt food. It has nothing to do with "making it difficult for hunters" as they are a good source of revenue to the state and are actively encouraged to spend their money here.
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I think one needs to be very alert in prowling the ever growing wild areas of the USA. These days when I drive the Interstates of New England I'm amazed at the size of the trees. When we hike I am more vigilant than ever, continually telling me wife to be alert, these are not the forests of our childhood. When we were young you hardly ever saw deer, today you can see moose.

We live in a tightly packed beach community, the minimum and typical lot size is 40x80 (taxed at $100,000 for the land) yet this year my brother-in law heard what he thought was a horse, wondering what it was doing in the neighborhood. He turned about and this huge moose was walking down our narrow street towards a nearby marsh.

It eventually ended up in the school yard. They kept the kids in that day, eventually tranqualizing the dart and hauling the moose way up state, tagging it with a collar. A few weeks later it was spotted in a neighboring town.

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This is pretty cool - not that it was killed, but that they're repopulating the east.

Recently the eastern cougar was finally, finally declared extinct - it not having been documented alive for, oh, a hundred years or so. All mountain lions we see west of the mississippi are members of the western subspecies that is moving east into favorable territory as their numbers expand.
Hi, Jen

Do you think this Eastern cougar sighting could have been part of a repopulation effort?
I confess that I'm with Ken- I like to think that big cat made its own way back there...

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Sorry, I meant eastern cougar as a particular subspecies, as opposed to cougars who happen to be found in the east. Currently, animals found in the east are part of the western subspecies. If that makes sense.
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I think that hunting is not encouraged in today's society here, whereas in the first half of the 20th century it was much more widespread and socially encouraged (not merely acceptable). Thus I think less and less hunting is being done. The result is a larger population of such wildlife.

I am all in favor of enjoying wild game sightings, and I do my own hunting with a camera (unlike my eldest brother, who loves to hunt and eat wild game). But a time may soon be approaching when we need to make a greater effort to trim back the populations of some predatory species, before they do too much damage to us humans and/or our livelihoods. Wild animals can and often do compete with humans for food and space, not to mention sometimes utilizing humans for their food.
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It's funny- the problem out here in the West has become one of not enough predators.
The deer population has exploded to the point that they're referred to in some jurisdictions as "urban rats".
Folks can't even have gardens in some places.
The big cats, etc. used to keep their numbers thinned...but not so much anymore.
And as for hunters taking up the slack...in my State, the deer limit remains one per hunter per year.
Kind of sad, really- many deer starve to death each year due to overpopulation, lack of forage, and loss of natural habitat.


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