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Old 03-01-2018, 06:50 AM   #1
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AGM in a Scamp

Has any Scamp owner put an AGM battery in the inside back location just like the Casita owners have thereís? I would like to take the 60+lbs off the tongue. Wondering how hard it would be to relocate the wires. Thanks for any insight. Iíve also seen on YouTube a Scamp with 4 brake lights. Is this one of those unknown options? And why would you want 4? Also, the Scamp store offers alloy wheels for the Scamp. Is this also another unknown option?

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Old 03-01-2018, 07:05 AM   #2
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More brake lights = more visibility to other drivers, always a good thing! We have the upper brake light option on our Escape, night and day difference from the standard lights.

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Old 03-01-2018, 07:07 AM   #3
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Scamp will install a second, high mounted set of taillights on the 16' and 19' models. Not sure whether it's on their current build sheet, and I have no idea why they won't do it on the 13' models. Three reasons: (1) if you carry bicycles, they often partially obscure the lower taillights, (2) in close traffic, a vehicle close behind you may not be able to see the lower set because they are so low, and (3) better general visibility at night.

First I've heard of alloy wheels through Scamp. I'm not seeing it on their website.
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Old 03-01-2018, 07:12 AM   #4
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I highly recommend the Scamp second set of tail lights or something similar. The stock ones are low (and not real bright) and can be hidden be a vehicle following you closely, or not seen by that driver at times. Higher lights are safer and are used on most other vehicles. Rear end collisions are the most common type of crash and higher tail / brake lights help to prevent them. The lights are $95 at build time but apparently not available on the 13 for no reason that I can fathom.
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Old 03-01-2018, 07:30 AM   #5
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Several years ago I collected info. on fiberglass trailer crashes. Scamp trailers are more prone to be rear ended than other fiberglass trailers. The pre 1996 or so with top hat tail lights are really dim and hard to see. A third higher LED brake light (owner installed) or dual brake lights (factory installed) is a good safety investment on a Scamp.
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Old 03-01-2018, 07:45 AM   #6
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If this is such a safety issue, why donít they offer it on the 13í. Iíll have to call Scamp and find out why. This should not be an option, but included in all sales.
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You can see two options for rims in this video, along with 4 tail lights.

https://youtu.be/s-qvd74DHn0
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Old 03-01-2018, 08:35 AM   #8
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If this is such a safety issue, why donít they offer it on the 13í. Iíll have to call Scamp and find out why. This should not be an option, but included in all sales.
When we had our 13' built, we attempted to order the second set of lights. According to Scamp, the shape of the 13 footer does not allow proper placement of the lights and that is why that option is not offered.
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Old 03-01-2018, 08:36 AM   #9
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My 1999 13foot has the extra set of tail lights. I bet they would put them on if you asked. Would be a potential deal killer for me if they wouldn't. One set of the standard, dim lights is inadequate in my opinion.
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Has any Scamp owner put an AGM battery in the inside back location just like the Casita owners have thereís? I would like to take the 60+lbs off the tongue. Wondering how hard it would be to relocate the wires. Thanks for any insight. Iíve also seen on YouTube a Scamp with 4 brake lights. Is this one of those unknown options? And why would you want 4? Also, the Scamp store offers alloy wheels for the Scamp. Is this also another unknown option?

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While the upper taillights make sense, I'd be concerned about the battery move. Even a light carrier on the back of a Scamp can lead to problems with sway due to low tongue weight. Moving that much weight from the front to the back may lead to stability problems.
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If this is such a safety issue, why donít they offer it on the 13í. Iíll have to call Scamp and find out why. This should not be an option, but included in all sales.
Yes perhaps the big square light fixtures don't fit so well...
See if you can get them to run the wiring and leave it behind the rat fur, under the rear window, like they do for the A/C pre-wire. That will make it easy for you to add some small LED lights on your own.
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Old 03-01-2018, 11:55 AM   #12
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Mount two of these inside your back window. Connect the wires to your turn signal/brake light/ground wires. Problem solved!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Practical-2...JXhyPm&vxp=mtr
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Old 03-04-2018, 09:28 AM   #13
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william looking

William thanks for the tip on the lights I think with our high mattress I can just hook the lines on the inside and go for it.

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