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Old 07-29-2015, 11:27 AM   #71
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Old 07-29-2015, 02:06 PM   #72
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It's a must have where I am from. Southern Ont gets very humid and hot...90deg and over 80% humidity this weekend. I installed a combo air conditioner/heater/dehumidifier I picked up kijiji for 60$ in the closet.

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Old 07-29-2015, 02:23 PM   #73
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I dont want to take the time to do it, but it would be interesting in THIS topic to take a tally and see just where the balance is on who does and who does NOT want A/C in the camper. Anybody up for it? Just curious...but I'm thinking a near 50/50.
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Old 07-29-2015, 02:52 PM   #74
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Larger Doghouse A/C from ClimateRight

I had promised to check with ClimateRight, and post back when I got a reply. The 8000 BTU unit that mostly disappeared from their site has been discontinued -- their in-house build facility for that model was not cost-effective for them. They are prototyping a new 10,000 BTU unit now that should be available sometime this fall.

Melissa at ClimateRight did point out that the 5000 BTU unit is rated for up to 1200 Cubic Feet, which is roughly 3x the volume of a Scamp 16.
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Old 07-29-2015, 03:59 PM   #75
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Yeah, but I suspect their ratings are based upon typical home insulation R values. A 5000 BTU in my former KZ trailer (14' x 7' box) was woefully inadequate when outside temps were in upper 90s or above. (Being boxy, it lacked the roundedness of an egg and sat a bit higher, thus more volume.)
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Old 07-30-2015, 06:50 PM   #76
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I don't think it looks unbalanced...
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Old 07-30-2015, 07:06 PM   #77
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I dont want to take the time to do it, but it would be interesting in THIS topic to take a tally and see just where the balance is on who does and who does NOT want A/C in the camper. Anybody up for it? Just curious...but I'm thinking a near 50/50.

Perhaps one or more of the major manufactures... Scamp, Casita, etc, would be willing to share what percentage of new units are sold with AC. They likely have this data already. Anyone have any close contacts with the companies?
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Old 07-30-2015, 07:47 PM   #78
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Here in LA (lower Alabama) the A/C is the one thing that is a no go item if it is broken.
I just installed a new mini split A/C 9000 BTU in my 16' Scamp and it works wonderfully well.
The A/C fills up my wife's garden sprinkling can (about a gallon) twice a day easily.
The humidity is simply overwhelming for anyone who is not used to it.
Perhaps even if you are used to it.
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Old 07-30-2015, 08:06 PM   #79
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I am sitting on my front deck overlooking the lake and watching the humming birds.
It is 70 deg F with low humidity . I tried visiting the South in the summer 3 times ,never again.
I don't know how anyone can survive in that Ungodly heat and humidity but they have my admiration.
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Old 07-30-2015, 08:15 PM   #80
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They invented air conditioning in Syracuse. Then everyone moved south to get away from winter. I lay on top of the covers when it's 90 and do just fine.

We go south in the winter when we are sure it will be nice. I don't know how people live down there. You can put clothes on when you are cold, but once you are naked you can't do anything more about the heat.
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Old 07-30-2015, 09:06 PM   #81
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Well, I agree, down south in summer I would definitely want some type of functional air conditioning. Here at home in Michigan, I did use a window air conditioner for about half the day today, was in the upper 80's and humid. I wasn't terribly uncomfortable before turning it on, but it did feel better with it.

I do a lot of backpacking, even in very hot weather - no air conditioning out there, so I do tolerate the heat ok. Here at home a couple of good fans keep me reasonably comfortable, even for sleeping, but I do enjoy having the AC occasionally.

My concern in asking the original question was that the trailer, I assume, heats up and becomes very stuffy when it's hot, humid, and still. The trailer I'm considering has neither AC or power fan, so something will have to be installed, probably a power fan initially. Beyond that, if I find I want AC, I will bite the bullet and choose one of the options folks have discussed on this thread. The Dog coolers and the mini-split options look most appealing right now, or for cheaper option, a 5000 or 8000 BTU window unit. Will cross that bridge if I need to, when I get there.

Thanks for all the thoughts and discussion of options to consider.
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Yeah, but I suspect their ratings are based upon typical home insulation R values. A 5000 BTU in my former KZ trailer (14' x 7' box) was woefully inadequate when outside temps were in upper 90s or above. (Being boxy, it lacked the roundedness of an egg and sat a bit higher, thus more volume.)
Actually, their sizing tool has a selector for insulation value -- Good, Fair, Poor, None. All the numbers I looked at were for Insulation None, and Full Sun. If your KZ had a window shaker, it was probably not breathing adequately. 5000 BTU should be ample for a trailer that size, except when using the stovetop.
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I don't know how anyone can survive in that Ungodly heat and humidity but they have my admiration.

I thought so too Steve. I grew up in the Rocky Mountains, where heat and humidity were alien concepts. My idea of good weather was anything above freezing (or sometimes below it if I was going to ski or be active in some other way).

I "moved" south when I joined the military, and for the most part, have lived where it's hot and humid my entire adult life. It took about 2 or 3 years, then I "settled in" as I call it.

When I go back to my hometown area on very rare occasions, especially in the winter, I am shocked at how cold and miserable I am.

Bottom line, your body adjusts. It takes quite a bit of time to fully climatize and accept it as a norm, whether the change is from cold/dry to hot/humid or vice versa.

I really don't notice it anymore when it's a hot sunny day in South Texas, because that's been the norm for so many years. Having said that, I do admit I would not go camping in my trailer without A/C during that time. I have summer camped here in a tent many times, and thus my trailer's name: Past Tents.


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I have a PlaCool ceiling mount in my Boler but it is not hooked up. I'd love to have it working but probably a PITA
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