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Old 06-22-2013, 07:41 AM   #1
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Alberta Floods - check in please

I've been watching the news about the flooding in Alberta and wondering how some of our members like David Tilston are doing?

Can those affected please check in and let us know how you are doing? Is there anything we can be doing to help?
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We live up higher in Calgary and were unaffected by the flooding, but both our kids were evacuated from their homes. Not likely that they will see much damage, but were in areas where access and many services were cut off. They are staying with us now.

The damage caused by the rushing waters, and the subsequent flooding is extensive, the full extent not likely known until the water recedes more. Lots of homes lost, or badly damaged. Places like the Saddledome (home of the Calgary Flames) was flooded up to the 10th row seating as of the last report earlier yesterday, LRT tunnels and underpasses completely flooded. Other communities to the west and south suffered even worse damage.

We went out to our rec property yesterday, which is about 80 minutes NW of our place, which is located on the James River, a small tributary river that you walk across in most places mid summer and not get your knees wet. Fortunately, we only lost a few acres due to the high water levels, along about 1/4 mile of the river bank, along with all the big trees that grew there. As we stood there watching, more bank was sloughing off, and a couple trees fell in the water. Lots of trees floating by too. Our buildings were not affected, but now after a couple big floods (2005 and this year) are at least 75' closer to the water, and will have to be moved. Here are some quick phone shots.

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My wife and SIL looking at the carnage. This is our cookhouse, which used to be about 150' from the river when we built it.

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If you look from where I am standing to take this, and look to the point ahead on the right bank, most of this area to the right of this line was lost, PLUS a heck of a lot more upstream.


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Old 06-22-2013, 09:36 AM   #3
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Wow ..... that does look like a lot of loss , not good . Glad you and your family are all ok , we too are lucky - family as well . It was a surprise to come home to on Thursday evening , we only new of Canmore really . Radio reports were mostly about Canmore ( Trans Canada ) and BC flooding . Hadn't been back in Calgary since a week before the rally and not much communication the last week .
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Good to hear no loss of life as of this morning and your family with you. Take care.

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There have been 3 confirmed death near High River south of Calgary. As unfortunate as that is, it sure could have been worse.
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There's no problem at all up here in the Edmonton area, so we have been sending police officers, soldiers with transport equipment, and river rescue crews (with vessels including an airboat) down to help.

Canadian Blood Services is asking us to make sure that we keep appointments to donate, not because of any increased need (there are few injuries), but because blood clinics in the affected areas have had to cancel appointments.
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Those affected have had amazing support from many sources, both locally and for other areas as Brian mentioned. A bit of a feel good thing amongst the devastation.
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Good luck to all you folks up there.....our thoughts and prayers are with you and your families. Be safe!
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Like Jim we also live on higher ground as do my parents and other family members so we are all OK.

The magnitude of the flooding and damage is unbelievable, The Emergency response has been equally impressive. There ability to evacuate 100,000 residents in such a short time period demonstrated their skills and planning.

I store both my Casita and Boler just outside Calgary at an RV storage lot, yesterday I went out and was very happy to see both high and dry. The Boler is now home as I continue with this years upgrades and modifications.
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Sorry, Late to the party again. We are fine, I have been posting updates on my belly band thread. We are on the east side of the river, and I work on the west side. Friday was a flood day. I did some work on the trailer, but then I took the family out to the hill that looks over the river. What a sight! Things that I never expected to be underwater, were. There is a CN bridge across the river that I used to ride my bike across. The rail line went right over Dearfoot Tr as well. Very convenient, if very bumpy.

From the belly band thread:
Ah yes, the flood. We are near the river, but about 30-40 ft above it. Many of the kids that my kids go to school with, are out of their homes. In fact, how we found out that our neighboring community was being evacuated was that my sociable daughter started getting, "R U OK?" texts, and offers of a place for my family to stay. This from people who only know of us through our kids. Wow. I love my city.
We started to reach out to the people who, we know live in that community. We woke up one person who after five minuets of conversation, she started to hear the loud speaker making the announcement. We offered our place to stay, but they have family in the city.
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Amazing......... never ever would have expected to see this in Calgary ( never want to again )
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Here is a slide show someone put together. The enormity of the disaster is overwhelming. A disaster unprecedented for this area.

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... We went out to our rec property yesterday, which is about 80 minutes NW of our place, which is located on the James River, a small tributary river that you walk across in most places mid summer and not get your knees wet. Fortunately, we only lost a few acres due to the high water levels, along about 1/4 mile of the river bank, along with all the big trees that grew there. As we stood there watching, more bank was sloughing off, and a couple trees fell in the water. Lots of trees floating by too. Our buildings were not affected, but now after a couple big floods (2005 and this year) are at least 75' closer to the water, and will have to be moved. Here are some quick phone shots.

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My wife and SIL looking at the carnage. This is our cookhouse, which used to be about 150' from the river when we built it.

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If you look from where I am standing to take this, and look to the point ahead on the right bank, most of this area to the right of this line was lost, PLUS a heck of a lot more upstream.


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Jim: Since in Alberta, ownership of the river beds is generally by the Crown (i.e. the government), I was wondering how the erosion of banks onto private land such as yours would impact you relative to land ownership. Seems to me that with extensive erosion, you could have the Crown owned river running over land that would be considered as yours. Did a quick Google search and came up with this file that seems to have the answers: http://srd.alberta.ca/FormsOnlineSer...s-Oct-1997.pdf
They seem to be stating that you have the right to reinstate your land to the condition it used to be prior to the erosion. I imagine the cost to do this would be prohibitive for you. Any plans for armouring the existing river banks?
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Dave, we are basically resigned to the loss of land. We have looking into armouring with rip rap, at least in a section where deflection of the flow would have the biggest effect. The costs for bringing in the amount of rock we would need are very high. We could likely spend $50k, or more getting it done. You do need permission to do this, but there is little doubt it would be granted to us.

Between 2005, this year, and a bit of flooding last year, I imagine we have lost nearly 10 acres of forested land. Around the bend though, there is a build up of silt and gravel, that in 50 years or so might be usable.
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