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Old 09-04-2007, 07:10 PM   #1
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...they insist on putting the AC above a cabinet on the side of the trailer instead of on the roof. Apparently, the roof was not designed to handle the added load. Too bad because the 17', Plan B model has just about every feature that interests us. The search continues.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:44 PM   #2
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Hi: IMHO you passed up on the BEST!!! Because of the A/C position on the side???
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:27 PM   #3
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Why is that Alf S? Read many times on this forum where members were asking if a particular trailer was designed for a roof mounted AC. I gathered from their question that it was a good feature. My limited understanding of trailers would suggest that it would at least free up valuable space inside. Hopefully others can chime in and offer some other reasons.
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:33 PM   #4
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Well, lets see...its a standard HOME style A/C which will make it much, much cheaper to replace than one designed for RVs. It keeps the overall height of the trailer lower...which is a huge consideration for those that take Ferries (like to/from Vancouver Island). Or for those needing to get it through a slightly taller than standard garage door. I'd think it would help with the "drag" too when towing if it's not another bump on the roof.

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Old 09-04-2007, 08:41 PM   #5
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Well, lets see...its a standard HOME style A/C which will make it much, much cheaper to replace than one designed for RVs. It keeps the overall height of the trailer lower...which is a huge consideration for those that take Ferries (like to/from Vancouver Island). Or for those needing to get it through a slightly taller than standard garage door. I'd think it would help with the "drag" too when towing if it's not another bump on the roof.

Good points Donna D. So, turning the question around, why don't the other manufacturers do the same? Escape even has the roof mounted AC on their 5.
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:48 PM   #6
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Well, Casita does... or did. I think it was on the 16'. It was mounted in the front, in the lower portion of the closet. With Scamp, prior to the fire... if you wanted a roof mounted A/C the trailer had to be ordered that way. Scamp put in extra roof structure to hold the weight. So if you bought the trailer used, there had to be some investigation done to determine if the roof would hold the weight. Fortunately Scamp kept all the information known about every trailer they built.

Oh, and I've seen a Scamp 5th wheel where the A/C was mounted on the side... right above the refrigerator. I THOUGHT it came from the factory that way.

My trailer doesn't have an A/C, and I've only found a time or two I wish I had it... all other times, a fan works just fine.
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:19 PM   #7
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Well, lets see...its a standard HOME style A/C which will make it much, much cheaper to replace than one designed for RVs. It keeps the overall height of the trailer lower...which is a huge consideration for those that take Ferries (like to/from Vancouver Island). Or for those needing to get it through a slightly taller than standard garage door. I'd think it would help with the "drag" too when towing if it's not another bump on the roof.

It's also protected from the vagaries of low-hanging branches, helps keep the centre of gravity lower and, IMHO, just looks better. we love our Burro but if I had the Loonies to spare, there would be an Escape 17 in our driveway, just as I hope that someday there will be an Escape fifth wheel chasing us all over the continent.
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:21 PM   #8
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...they insist on putting the AC above a cabinet on the side of the trailer instead of on the roof. Apparently, the roof was not designed to handle the added load. Too bad because the 17', Plan B model has just about every feature that interests us. The search continues.
Hi Zeb
I have just ordered a new Escape.I realy don't think you would be dissapointed in the AC location.I have been through factory and have seen these units being built in various stages.I beleive Donna D, did a good job explaining.
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:43 PM   #9
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Not only, Zeb, does it require less structure to place the air conditioner inside the trailer, and the unit itself is less than $100 vs $800 for a roof mount model, it also helps keep the center of gravity lower. If properly placed and vented, standard window A/C units have proved themselves perfectly compent in small trailer use.

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Old 09-04-2007, 09:49 PM   #10
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I don't know, the side AC location just doesn't seem right to me for now. I'll have to noodle this one some more.
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Good points Donna D. So, turning the question around, why don't the other manufacturers do the same? Escape even has the roof mounted AC on their 5.
There are a couple of reasons. First is storage. A roof mounted A/C unit doesn't take up valuable inside storage place. Secondly is that the public has come to expect a roof air unit on new units, never mind that a window unit can be just as effective. The manufacturers provide what the public wants and will buy.

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Old 09-04-2007, 10:05 PM   #12
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There are a couple of reasons. First is storage. A roof mounted A/C unit doesn't take up valuable inside storage place. Secondly is that the public has come to expect a roof air unit on new units, never mind that a window unit can be just as effective. The manufacturers provide what the public wants and will buy.

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OK, you're forcing me to think harder on the subject. Here goes ...

Pros for roof mounted AC
More storage space inside (thanks Roger)
Quieter (?)
Capable of being more centrally located for better air circulation (?)
Unit is mostly out of site (no ugly vent on the side)
Better air circulation for heat shedding
Ability to use a larger AC unit for warmer climates (?)

Pros for cabinet mounted AC
Cheaper to build (roof doesn't have to be strengthened)
Condensate drain easier to plumb (What do they do with the roof mounted ones?)
Lower roof profile (thanks Donna D)

Can't think of any more at the moment. Anyone else have something to offer?
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Condensate drain easier to plumb ([b]What do they do with the roof mounted ones?)
Anyone else have something to offer?
They just let it run out onto the roof.
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I'd really encourage you to contact Escape and let them know your concerns. Reace and his crew have been absolutely amazing with us throughout the process of ordering a 17' B unit-we asked ALOT of questions and never once were we left without a complete answer. We questioned every aspect of the design/build, threw in some unique mods, and were always treated with a prompt respectful reply.

For us, the side A/C was a selling feature-no more fear of covered bridges, low trees, ect. Also, we're short-after owning a 5th wheel with 8' high ceilings finally being able to reach A/C controls is nice!
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