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View Poll Results: Temperature rise from almost freezing
15 mins 6 14.29%
1/2 hour 14 33.33%
45 mins 13 30.95%
1 hour 4 9.52%
2 hours 2 4.76%
4 hours 1 2.38%
somewhere in between 1 and 4 hours (Chicken&#33 1 2.38%
You're gonna die of hypothermia waiting 1 2.38%
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:10 PM   #15
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OK, who is cheating?

Voting after the answer is given... sheez, you guys are incorrigible!
I didn't even see this until now. And I guessed wrong too...
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:48 PM   #16
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Cheating on a poll, kinda reminds me of a Presidential Election
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Old 01-19-2008, 07:59 PM   #17
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well, I am satisfied the moisture is from condensation and not a leak. The cushions are already dry, including the foam, which was hardly even damp.

The underside of the "cute" tufted seam hider inside was dry when I went in this morning and now with the heat going all day it has condensation behind it.

I am running the propane, not using an electric heater. I actually LIKE the furnace better than the cube heater, it heats more evenly. The condensation is a very minor annoyance and I have not actually noticed any on exposed surfaces while running it, even when it's this cold.

Right now, outside temp is 37.
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:15 PM   #18
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I'm not sure exactly the time we got back to the trailer today. I was after 5:30 pm, but for the sake of argument I'll say 5:35 pm. Outside temperature = 42.8 degrees. At 6:10 the furnace shut off. Thermostat was set at 70 degrees. The furnace has been off since we left the trailer at about 8:00 am.

35 minutes to furnace off with window over the stove open a bit and the roof vent open a bit.
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:27 PM   #19
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You have a smaller more open space to heat. Sometimes, I miss my 13 for that reason.

For me and my needs, the furnace is located in an inconvenient location, at the dead center of the trailer. I realize this even things out on the whole, but I spend most of my time on either end of the trailer. It takes awhile for the hot air to get over there where the thermo is... unless, of course, you are talking about my presence there to start with.
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:33 PM   #20
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If I remember right you have a bed at one end and a small dinette at the other. I was just wondering if you could put something you could hang a drape from near each end. Then hang the drape to close off the end you'll be using last.

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Old 01-19-2008, 08:46 PM   #21
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After one hour will be 70 in the upper area and 35 at the floor. These plastic ice cubes require thermo boots.
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Old 01-19-2008, 08:49 PM   #22
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I actually have the area that is traditionally made into a bedroom as the "living" area. It is in the back and the last to get the heat.

I use the front dinette/gaucho area as my bed. It IS closer to the heater, but I rarely run the furnace at night unless I have full hook ups. It consumes much power. Good bedding keeps my warm and happy, for the most part. I may run it at a low setting (45 or so) to keep things from freezing inside. That limits it's on time to a manageable power consumption.

My future plans are to first install a Wave 6 heater where the furnace is now, on a hinge so I can use the space behind as storage, And I have considered a Wave 3 near the back. That will involve removing the converter I never use as a converter and rebuilding the distribution panel and fuses to another spot. I do not use that area as a bed, but a future owner may want to and the heater in that spot would be a danger if the bed was down. Something to consider, for sure. Another for sure... it's a very ambitious endeavor.

The previous owner had a curtain up across the back, as you have suggested. He used the dinette in the front.

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Old 01-21-2008, 06:13 PM   #23
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Well, I have to wonder how long the heat up would have taken if you had not kept opening it to check the temperature.
I missed in my guess by so much it is not in self defense.
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. Gina,
Hard to believe that your furnace takes THAT long. My little cube heater (600W) warms my 17 Liberty to 70 in 10 min or less and the heat strip will do it in 20 min max!!!!
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:05 PM   #25
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my cube heater works pretty fast too, but I currently have power issues at my house and didn't think it wise to run the trailer off an extension cord at the moment. Charging and low draw is OK, but I am about 40 feet from the house.
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At the risk of overanalyzing, I have come to at least one tentative conclusion: the double-wall insulated setup that both Gina and I have in common is a good one, but I would not assume that it is necessarily better insulated than a Scamp, Casita, et al.

I do think it operates in a slightly different manner: the rat fur, or whatever, has very little mass that must be heated up or cooled down before the insulation does its thing (insulation is essentially part of the surface). In our double-insulated setup the whole inside shell must be heated up in order to reach equilibrium. Lots more stuff to absorb heat and suck out of the air.

It seems to me that it changes the warm-up and cool-down time to some extent, in that it may take somewhat longer to heat up. The up-side is that it may take longer to cool down too, so the temperature may stay a smidgen more even. The rat fur probably allows the trailer to heat up quickly but also allows it to cool down quicker. Confirm or deny?

Anecdotally this works for me: since my wife was on call the other night I slept in the trailer. Turned on the electric heat an hour before bedtime (5000BTU, fan-forced, permanently installed and thermostat-controlled). Brought it up from below freezing to 61 degrees in less than an hour and kept it toasty all night at about 68 degrees even with a window cracked open. It's been relatively cold here.
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I hope that you can even find your trailer today We are buried in snow up at my level! Yes, using your cube heater would be a very bad idea at this time
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Old 01-24-2008, 09:18 AM   #28
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Yes, I have heard

I am currently down the hill.. and the coast. I am SOOOO looking forward to coming up the hill today... NOT.

I am supposed to leave for AZ saturday.. I am thinking that plan has changed a little.
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