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Old 02-13-2016, 01:25 PM   #29
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Some like it hot...I don't.

My travel trailer has an A/C...I bought a 3,100 watt Champion Inverter generator new for $750 for when I boondock.

Camping in high heat and humidity is painful without A/C.
My motto..."If it isn't fun I don't do it"
Camping with A/C in heat and humidity is fun....being uncomfortable is not fun.

If you like high heat and humidity then you'll love cooking in your camper without A/C.....if your wife likes A/C and hates the heat and humidity then go get A/C installed....Happy Wife=Happy Life.
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Old 02-13-2016, 03:22 PM   #30
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Most folks with AC in their trailers don't get water damage. It should not be too difficult to have an AC unit correctly installed, and not get damage. I don't think the water damage should be an issue in your decision. Instead, it should be based on your comfort level.

My comfort level generally involves having AC available on a trailer. I particularly recall my stay in Black Mesa SP (OK panhandle) one July night a few years ago. This was on my way home to Tulsa from a trip through the Rockies. I pulled into the CG around 4:30 pm, and the thermometer read 114 degrees F. By bedtime it had fallen into the upper 80s. Yes, I did enjoy my stay, all alone in the CG except for the deer, bunnies, and other wildlife; I walked and rode my bike in the evening hours and enjoyed the peaceful serenity. However, being able to retreat to the relative cool of the trailer made the stay bearable. AC is really, really nice to have.
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Old 02-13-2016, 04:12 PM   #31
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Putting sliders in the front and back of your Scamp is going to require fiberglass work. Operable windows need a flat mounting surface, which the front and back are not. Fantastic fans might be an easier and more effective way to increase ventilation for sleeping. Since they're powered, you'll have a breeze even when the air is still.
Since the OPs trailer is a 1991, he's got a flat-back Scamp. Even my 1988 is a flat-back and I can put a sliding window in. HOWEVER, any opening front window Scamp has ever offered, they've discontinued. With reason. You're perhaps going to have leaking issues that even the manufacturer couldn't solve.
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Old 02-13-2016, 05:53 PM   #32
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as hinted by others, the use of an air-conditioner (or heater) is mostly depended on location of adventures.

For Cari and I we really enjoy the mild weather of the PNW, and also like the greenery. Our typical season from spring thaw to fall freeze allows us to not feel obligated to include much if any heating and have never used an air conditioner in our rig(s) except our big rig at home on the coast.

We know we'll venture out of the PNW when we cut the cord to employment, though we hope to do our best at following the 55 to 75 degree preferred weather : ) Yea, we are weather weenies.

When I saw the title of this thread I misinterpreted the "A/C" as volts rather than a cooling system... we only plug our adventure rigs into shore power during the one outing we have with the Fiberglass RV Forum members. Next outlet use is this coming April. We figure if we are paying for electricity...might as well do something with it?

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Old 02-14-2016, 07:08 AM   #33
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Since the OPs trailer is a 1991, he's got a flat-back Scamp. Even my 1988 is a flat-back and I can put a sliding window in. HOWEVER, any opening front window Scamp has ever offered, they've discontinued. With reason. You're perhaps going to have leaking issues that even the manufacturer couldn't solve.
I didn't know that, Donna- thanks for the clarification. I assumed the change in the mold and the switch to sliders in the back happened at the same time. Do you happen to know when they changed the mold and when the rear slider became standard issue?
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Old 02-14-2016, 08:09 AM   #34
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Jon, I THINK it was somewhere 1984-1985. All the 1985s I've seen are flat back, but still have the plexi window, not sliders. Flat backs are easy to spot due to the "ledge" under the window. The round backs are just as round in the back as the front. Fortunately those with flat backs, the plexi windows were sized for the sliders Scamp is still using.


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Old 02-14-2016, 11:12 AM   #35
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Yard-sale 30bucks window A/C, 5500BTU, d-i-y. It turns the little trailer as cold as a ..cooler in summer nights.
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Old 02-14-2016, 11:57 AM   #36
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Wow, I never thought I'd generate so much conversation. Thanks to everyone who has offered their opinions here. We haven't decided but will continue to consider all the options. I still have the existing damage to repair from the previous installation, once the weather turns nice, and will most probably prep the area to enable the installation of ac since I'll be working in there anyway.

We do have what has been referred to as "flat back" on Ziggy so we'll most likely be changing out the rear window AND I really appreciate the comment about the potential for issues with the front slider. Excellent advice, from everyone. Thanks again.
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Old 02-14-2016, 12:18 PM   #37
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IF you really want an opening front window and if you're willing to do the work, it's possible... this is a picture of a Love Bug, kinda hard to see the window and notice it's sitting more upright than other rounded front plexi window trailers (its the best I could do when searching quickly). I would think if you did the work and then created a gravel guard that wrapped around the window you could possibly prevent water leaks. The worst happen during driving rain storms while under tow.
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Old 02-14-2016, 12:55 PM   #38
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The front window on my Trillium doesn't leak. A lot of Trilliums have been produced, all with opening front windows. I don't recall it being a known issue. Trillium uses wood spacers on all the windows and they are known to deteriorate due to poor maintenence but nothing unique to the front. Perhaps it's the shape of the trailer or maybe the jealousies work better than the slider??? Raz
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Old 02-14-2016, 02:15 PM   #39
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P.Raz and anyone else with sliding windows, I am not a big fan of sliding windows. Any water on the outside of the glass runs down into the slider track.
This water should run out of the track which runs both outside the trailer and inside the trailer through weeping slots at the outside bottom of the track that the window glides in.

If the drain slots are not kept clean the water will spill out of the track into the interior of the trailer...always keep these weeping slots clean and clear.
The other problem is when driving at high speed in heavy rain the rain water can find its way into the trailer.
Overall the jealousies if closed tightly are less likely to leak and allow for ventilation when camped in the rain. This type of window also known as an awning window is best overall in homes in the hot, humid and rainy tropics.

Another item most veteran travel trailer owners install is the MAXX AIR roof vent covers. This item cuts roof vent leaks when traveling in the rain to zero and you can leave vents open with these installed when you are moving as they protect the factory vent covers while allowing ventilation.

Water is the enemy of travel trailers.

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The darn things are tiny enough. Good Lord when the heater goes off it is enough to jump you out of bed. Enjoy the outdoor noise and a fan, may well be run by batteries.
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Old 02-15-2016, 07:56 PM   #41
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We camp in the arid West so even on the hottest nights a fan and using a damp beach towel ( the thin kind) as a blanket and we're happy campers. Of course we very seldom have electricity available.
If we camped where it was humid... Then I guess we would use a small window A/C and genset. That would complicate the heck out of things. Do most campgrounds where you camp have power?


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It may be hard for some of you to believe...but, there was a time in the US where only very rich families, and commercial businesses had AC!

In the small town in the SW (Pop: 35,000) where I lived as a child, the majority of the people were only was exposed to cool air when they attended a movie or entered one of the banks, plus one or two other businesses.

Many families slept outside on blankets or a mattress with the hope that there might be a breeze to cool off the heat. Of course, the bugs had a feast! My grandparents wet sheets and laid them on their bed to cool off!

Maybe that's the reason I think that the inventor of home size AC's should be a Saint!

I've never believed that there was any thing noble about laying sweating all night, when cool air was available. I did my share of sweating in a tent when in the Marines, but, that was not a choice!

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