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Old 03-07-2018, 08:39 PM   #1
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Are rear-view mirrors a thing of the past?

Concept cars are showing up at auto shows with what appear to be rear-facing cameras where there used to be mirrors (see link to Subaru Viziv below as example). Not sure if there are multiple monitors in various locations in the cockpit, or if there is some 180 degree panoramic rear view monitor in the dash. It will be interesting to see where this goes....
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/s...ourer-concept/
Just hope you don't blow the camera fuse on the LA freeway during rush hour traffic!
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Old 03-07-2018, 10:36 PM   #2
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Unfortunately a lot of these techy items, some of which can be great secondary tools, are dumbing down younger drivers IMHO. Can't remember once having my mirrors short out .
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Old 03-07-2018, 10:45 PM   #3
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I don't necessarily agree with the dumming down. For some vehicles, not necessarily these sporty cars, it is an essential feature. My class A had a fill-time rear camera which was about 130 degrees. It really helped supplement the side mirrors and was a savior changing lanes for back-in spots. Some have side cameras that come on with the turn signals so you can check your blind spot.

Not needed so much with the PU and Campster. The rearview mirror work fine with my current setup.
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Old 03-07-2018, 10:58 PM   #4
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Been using my mirrors for 50 years. Would take me that long, at least, to switch to looking at a monitor.
Glance in the mirror, shoulder check, lane change.
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Old 03-07-2018, 11:56 PM   #5
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every time I get in a modern car and try and look out the back, I feel like I'm in a cave with tiny windows. I'm too used to the likes of a Volvo 740 wagon where there was 360 degree visibility with no blind spots, or a Mercedes 300E, ditto, tiny blind spots behind the C pillars, great visibility otherwise.
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Old 03-08-2018, 04:08 AM   #6
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My class A had a fill-time rear camera which was about 130 degrees. It really helped supplement the side mirrors and was a savior changing lanes for back-in spots. Some have side cameras that come on with the turn signals so you can check your blind spot.
Thanks Dave, I said secondary and you used supplement, both in addition to mirrors as the main go to never fail items I was getting at. Maybe I should have been a little more clear on the dumbing down comment. Young/new drivers are being dealt a disservice by only having the tech items to depend on believing they are gospel and not learning basic automotive skills. Gees, I had a 18 y/o boy stop in front of my house with a flat tire. He didn't even know where to look for the spare, really, SMH. Changing a tire was the first thing I taught my daughters at 15 y/o and had them do it themselves .
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:41 AM   #7
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New and improved not better

Kind of like my 2011 Outback electronic parking brake. Only used one by the salesman at pick up. After 40K mi. it decided to light a brake fail light. $800 and a week later at the stealership, after the parking brake motor was replaced I still have only a parking brake. It is designed to release the parking brake when the car is placed in gear and starts to be in motion. Bottom line I have no emergency brake (Never had never will.). Several times in the past I have got back home or off the road using the emergency brakes after a brake failure.
Also, I could not buy the part and fix it myself because the new part had to be programmed into the cars computer. New and improved is not always better. $800 to the stealership for a non used item just out of warranty. Makes you wonder what is really programmed into the cars computer. Note: The car would not pass state inspection with the brake light illuminated.
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:00 AM   #8
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Note: The car would not pass state inspection with the brake light illuminated.
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A pair of $1.00 wire cutters would fix the brake light being on!
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my 1998 vw beetle

my rear hatch operates off a motor I have heard tales of the cost to get these fixed at 200k mine still works but I wonder what the ordeal will be when it does go out!

and do not dare take that car to a stealership!

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Note: The car would not pass state inspection with the brake light illuminated.
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Old 03-08-2018, 11:04 AM   #11
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Rear-view mirrors can be hit/broken/knocked around and mine has literally fallen off the windshield. I still like and use them. I have a self-dimming one in my Toyota which is very nice with the onslaught of these OVER-powered LED headlights on the "monster" bully-trucks that like to ride your bumper these days.

BUT, I also have a rear-view camera on my Scamp. I have it installed (suction cup) to the inside rear window. Works WONDERFUL! I would not be without it now. With the camera inside, it's always protected. Notice that being in the "window" sets the camera up higher so I can see MUCH more than with it down on the "tag"...which wouldnt work for me on my Scamp anyway with it being over to one side.

So in all, with my inside rear-view mirror basically useless when I'm towing, I still see neither going away for some time...but then again..the way technology is LITERALLY flying in...who knows?

Here's my camera setup for anyone interested:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/503516...57629562084569
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This conversation reminds me of the introduction of GPS to the world of hiking in the woods. So many people needed to be rescued in the Adirondacks due to failed electronics, that they started charging hefty fees for search and rescue. Depending on gadgets is a bad way to go when the fundamentals are ignored. False confidence. Helpless people.

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Rear view cameras to replace rearview mirrors? heck I expect big screen monitors to replace windshields! you could even choose the season or scenery to view as long as the traffic and the road was accurate!
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Towing mirror goat rope averted

I wanted to put factory like towing mirrors on my 2015 Ram 1500. My truck has defrost and elec. adj. mirrors. I found a set of like factory towing mirrors for $185. They had my functions but they also had puddle lights and turn signals. To get the new functions to work I would have to go to the stealership to reprogram the window controllers in each door. Most dealers get $100 but I found one who would do it for $45. Then the big catch, since I had a Tradesman (work truck) they don't normally come with towing mirrors so the window controllers in each door can't be programmed for the extra mirror options. I will now have to buy two window controllers out of a higher grade truck to make the turn signal functions work. Again to pass state inspection if you have turn signal lights they must work.
I now get to keep my money now and not have any headaches. I will continue to use my slide on towing mirrors, they seem to work just fine now. I don't have to deal with Amazon, mirror vendor, stealership, junk yard and I'm sure several trips to the auto parts store. This started out as just a simple towing mirror install project.
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