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Old 10-05-2015, 12:16 AM   #1
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Well, I made it to the Fall Metro Detroit RV Show in Novi on Saturday. I've been looking at and comparing fiberglass trailers since last June, but thought I should at least check out what the stick built folks had on offer.

I read up on the "tips" for attending a show. Number one tip seemed to be to decide what you are looking for, then limit your browsing to those items that closely match. Otherwise, you can waste a lot of time, and end up with something beyond what you intended on buying, or spending more than you initially wanted to spend.

My general criteria was under 3500 lb, under 18 ft, probably a single axle trailer. No sliders - don't want the weight, added mechanical complexity, and potential for leaks. No canvas extensions. No fifth wheel or motor home of any class.

While I'm not actually interested in pop-ups, I did include them in what I looked at, just in case something jumped out at me. A-liners were interesting, but the low counters would surely give me a back ache if I tried to do any cooking or dish washing. Plus, I'm not confident a folding trailer would be water tight in the long run without a lot of maintenance.

So I headed into the show, planing on spending most of the day. Little did I know how truly limited the "small" trailer options were, at least present at the show. A couple of Amerilites, a Fox River, and a few others. I did get to check out a couple different models of TABs. One was quite interesting, but for the $18,000 show price, I didn't think I wanted to have to stand out in the rain to cook dinner. A couple RPods were there as well, but, for the price, I wasn't that impressed, plus they had sliders. A few other models of "niche" trailers, but non stole my heart from a Casita, Scamp or Escape. All tolled, I was at the show just about an hour and a half, to see everything I wanted to see.

Seems most manufacturers are missing a substantial segment of buyers. The small trailers definitely had folks looking at them, maybe it was just that they were curious and not actually shopping for possible purchase.

I feel more confident now that a fiberglass trailer is what I will be most happy with, even if they are a bit smaller and a bit more expensive. Now, as long as a great used stick-built doesn't fall in my lap before I find my egg, I've narrowed down my realm of possibilities, my initial choices have been confirmed.
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Old 10-05-2015, 01:36 AM   #2
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I think you have made a wise choice, while stick builts can be nice I have yet to see a stick built any where near the age of our 71 Boler that was in half as good a shape even before we started our complete restoration.
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Old 10-05-2015, 07:03 AM   #3
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We recently got a tour of a White Water Retro that we were very impressed with. Were told it has aluminum framing. It was the 17.7 model and had some neat features.
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Hi, in the event that you do get a FGRV keep in mind that some adjustments will need to be made to keep water out. I wish somebody would have told me that the AC bolts would have to be tightened up to stop water from coming in ahead of time. Also you have to install a foam seal around the fridge vents to stop water from seeping in and onto the floor. Pulled my hair out trying to find the causes of such things. I am not a RV guru who knows all this stuff, That said, my 16` scamp is just marvelous, Good Luck. Carl
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Old 10-05-2015, 08:41 AM   #5
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LyleB, if you looked at the TAB, you might have talked to my son. He is from Ohio, but was selling those, among other brands, at the show, this past weekend.


He tells me all the time that molded fiberglass trailer owners, or wannabes are brainwashed. Kiddingly, of course. He sells a lot of trailers, but we are his toughest sell.
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Old 10-05-2015, 09:48 AM   #6
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Well, I made it to the Fall Metro Detroit RV Show in Novi on Saturday. I've been looking at and comparing fiberglass trailers since last June, but thought I should at least check out what the stick built folks had on offer.

I read up on the "tips" for attending a show. Number one tip seemed to be to decide what you are looking for, then limit your browsing to those items that closely match. Otherwise, you can waste a lot of time, and end up with something beyond what you intended on buying, or spending more than you initially wanted to spend.

My general criteria was under 3500 lb, under 18 ft, probably a single axle trailer. No sliders - don't want the weight, added mechanical complexity, and potential for leaks. No canvas extensions. No fifth wheel or motor home of any class.

While I'm not actually interested in pop-ups, I did include them in what I looked at, just in case something jumped out at me. A-liners were interesting, but the low counters would surely give me a back ache if I tried to do any cooking or dish washing. Plus, I'm not confident a folding trailer would be water tight in the long run without a lot of maintenance.

So I headed into the show, planing on spending most of the day. Little did I know how truly limited the "small" trailer options were, at least present at the show. A couple of Amerilites, a Fox River, and a few others. I did get to check out a couple different models of TABs. One was quite interesting, but for the $18,000 show price, I didn't think I wanted to have to stand out in the rain to cook dinner. A couple RPods were there as well, but, for the price, I wasn't that impressed, plus they had sliders. A few other models of "niche" trailers, but non stole my heart from a Casita, Scamp or Escape. All tolled, I was at the show just about an hour and a half, to see everything I wanted to see.

Seems most manufacturers are missing a substantial segment of buyers. The small trailers definitely had folks looking at them, maybe it was just that they were curious and not actually shopping for possible purchase.

I feel more confident now that a fiberglass trailer is what I will be most happy with, even if they are a bit smaller and a bit more expensive. Now, as long as a great used stick-built doesn't fall in my lap before I find my egg, I've narrowed down my realm of possibilities, my initial choices have been confirmed.
Good job of attending such a show and narrowing your choices. We chose wisely in a Scamp for ease of towing and maintenance. I feel the Casitas are nicer inside, more up to date. Scamp has stuck them selves in the 70's and refuses to make significant updates to the interior. Still, we love our Scamp and have made many improvements.
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Old 10-05-2015, 09:49 AM   #7
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This is just my opinion, but until T@B replaces ALL that ABS plastic trim around the outside, I wouldnt touch it with a 10' pole! Fiberglass would be nice . Yes I've seen them, been inside them, and even test-pulled one. Back then, they didnt have the bathroom, but now they do. But they STILL have the plastic trim that's highly known for cracking in the sun at a young age.
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Old 10-05-2015, 10:11 AM   #8
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LyleB, if you looked at the TAB, you might have talked to my son. He is from Ohio, but was selling those, among other brands, at the show, this past weekend.
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Actually would suggest going over to the TAB owners forum before talking to a salesman!

It would be the best way of determining why the resale pricing on them is what it is.
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Old 10-05-2015, 10:31 AM   #9
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Not recommending a TAB, just stating he sells them. Son does agree molded fiber glass is good stuff. Just can't make a living selling those in Ohio.
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Old 10-05-2015, 10:33 AM   #10
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We looked at one, but it was too low for my wife.
Many were too low inside which drove the selection of the 16' Scamp.

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Not recommending a TAB, just stating he sells them. Son does agree molded fiber glass is good stuff. Just can't make a living selling those in Ohio.
I understand, just thought you might want to ask him about the resale price issue the next time he tells you fiberglass trailer owners are brainwashed.
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Old 10-05-2015, 10:51 AM   #12
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Yep, do that all the time. Of course, if we decide to get rid of the Casita, he wants us to roll it his way.
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Not recommending a TAB, just stating he sells them. Son does agree molded fiber glass is good stuff. Just can't make a living selling those in Ohio.
Considering the Distribution system of most FGRV builders (none), no one can make a living selling them, even in California. New Bigfoot apparently is attempting to have a few dealers on the west coast, but that doesn't seem to be meeting with much success.
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Considering the Distribution system of most FGRV builders (none), no one can make a living selling them, even in California. New Bigfoot apparently is attempting to have a few dealers on the west coast, but that doesn't seem to be meeting with much success.
The above comment is basing on ????

Escape is a FGRV builder on the West Coast and their production schedule is sold out for more than a year. They did for a short time sell through a dealer but went to direct sales a years again and appear to be making a good living at it.

Bigfoot is the other FGRV builder on the West Coast and they have used RV dealers both in Canada and the US for many, many years - both under old and the new management.

Bigfoot was the only FGRV builder at a recent RV show I attended and they did not appear to be short on interested parties. Bigfoot's are not known as an economical trailer & while at the show I asked how they were doing these days and it was mentioned that sales/orders for them going into the US had picked up once again due as the poor state of the Canadian dollar. The lower valued Canadian dollar has helped make them attractive in the US market once again - which was not the case in recent years while the Canadian dollar was on par or higher value than the US dollar.

The lower Canadian dollar value of the past 6/10 months is also one of the big reason's Escapes are flying off the shelves as fast as they can make them as well.
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