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09-04-2012, 11:08 AM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
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Actually it says 5 kg which is about 11 lbs, vs B@L which weigh at least twice that amount
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09-04-2012, 11:16 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
actually it says 5 kg which is about 11 lbs, vs b@l which weigh at least twice that amount
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I have proof! From the ad: £79.50
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09-04-2012, 12:26 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
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Would that be a pound of aluminium, a pound of sterling silver, a pound of pretty paper, or all of above? Another vote here for metrification!
I note that the arms of the inner pivoting "U" of the Milenco "Caravan leveller" (Caravan is such a romantic name!) meet the nut on the elevator screw at an angle. I'd say cf. to the BAL, it isn't possible to employ the entire length of the screw to raise the tire and wheel BICBW. Hard to gauge the effective amount of "lift" from a photo so it's only my provisional guess that the BAL might just possibly have a bit more effective travel on the screw and resultant distance raised. Milenco ain'ta gon ta fold nary as flat neither.
jack
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09-04-2012, 01:08 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
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That is the price, not the weight!! It cost 79 british pounds which is about $125 us dollars
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09-04-2012, 01:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
That is the price, not the weight!! It cost 79 british pounds which is about $125 us dollars
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Jim, has anyone ever commented that you don't have much of a sense of humor?
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09-04-2012, 01:21 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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sorry....me culpa
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09-04-2012, 01:22 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Bigfoot 19 ft
Posts: 718
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
I'm using 2 of them right now on my Escape 19' to keep the unit level in my driveway, waiting for Isaac to bring a lot of rain and wanted the unit level side to side to minimize water on the windows, tilted towards front and the protected window.
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@ Jim,
You are the first person I've "met" who uses Bal levelers with tandem tires!
How do you coordinate the two Bals when leveling your trailer?
I have Tandem tires on my Bigfoot, and have been wanting to go with a Bal system. But I am worried about safety issues.
@ Shirley. Thanks for the "heads up" on the Milenco model leverler! If Jim can explain to me how to use 2 levelers, I'd definitely be interested in a lighter product (I hate dragging heavy things around!)
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09-04-2012, 01:22 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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on a side note, I like the european style better @ 50% weight reduction
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09-04-2012, 01:23 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 82 Burro
Posts: 111
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You guys crack me up!!
Jack - wouldn't the distance raised depend on the length of the rod? Size does matter, you know.
Here's a pic of what the Milenco looks like at rest.
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09-04-2012, 01:34 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jane P.
@ Jim,
You are the first person I've "met" who uses Bal levelers with tandem tires!
How do you coordinate the two Bals when leveling your trailer?
I have Tandem tires on my Bigfoot, and have been wanting to go with a Bal system. But I am worried about safety issues.
@ Shirley. Thanks for the "heads up" on the Milenco model leverler! If Jim can explain to me how to use 2 levelers, I'd definitely be interested in a lighter product (I hate dragging heavy things around!)
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I have 2 arms and use the B@L's in unison. That said I prefer these
Slant Levelers, Set of 2 - Pine Hill Plastics Inc D10-253 - Chocks & Levelers - Camping World
they will work and I have used them
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09-04-2012, 01:51 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
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I expect you're right, Shirley; I withdraw my rather shaky hypothesis (I wuz wrong ). Also, when retracted, the angle on the "lifter "yoke doesn't look all that prominent (producing about the same total collapsed thickness as in the area of the welded tire support pads.) Appears that the screw and nut are detachable which is not the case with the BAL and might possibly help one avoid a fat lip or other owie. And an included helper bar helps. The storage tote is a nice bonus. What's the price in trade beads again?
jack
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09-04-2012, 02:18 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Bigfoot 19 ft
Posts: 718
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
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Do you have a picture of that arm in action? That's worth a 1000 pounds you know.
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09-04-2012, 02:37 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,710
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jane P.
Do you have a picture of that arm in action? That's worth a 1000 pounds you know.
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Actually I count each turn in multiples of 10 and repeat on the other or do them both together, either way it seems to work. Someone else on the Escape forum uses them in tandem also.
You do realize it is impossible to show both in action and take the picture simultaneously. What would I use to press the button with? my feet?
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09-04-2012, 04:37 PM
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Member
Trailer: 2008 17 ft Escape B / 2005 Tacoma 4x4 D Cab
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I use two of them to level my Escape 19. I used one on my Escape 17 and when we bought the 19 in February I bought another one. They work very well.
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09-04-2012, 04:51 PM
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Trailer: Bigfoot 19 ft
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BC Paul
I use two of them to level my Escape 19. I used one on my Escape 17 and when we bought the 19 in February I bought another one. They work very well.
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This is great for me. Earlier in the year, the feedback I was getting on this forum indicated that it would be unsafe to use a Bal type leveler with two tires. But no one seemed to have tangent tires.
So, do you do the same thing as Jim, raise one up 10 turns or so than raise the second up the same amount?
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09-04-2012, 05:56 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jim
Trailer: 2022 Escape19 pulled by 2014 Dodge Ram Hemi Sport
Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jane P.
This is great for me. Earlier in the year, the feedback I was getting on this forum indicated that it would be unsafe to use a Bal type leveler with two tires. But no one seemed to have tangent tires.
So, do you do the same thing as Jim, raise one up 10 turns or so than raise the second up the same amount?
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yes, or sometimes in unison, either way seems to work.
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09-04-2012, 06:43 PM
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Member
Trailer: 2008 17 ft Escape B / 2005 Tacoma 4x4 D Cab
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jane P.
This is great for me. Earlier in the year, the feedback I was getting on this forum indicated that it would be unsafe to use a Bal type leveler with two tires. But no one seemed to have tangent tires.
So, do you do the same thing as Jim, raise one up 10 turns or so than raise the second up the same amount?
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I turn the screw in by hand on both until snug and then turn both at the same time with the supplied wrenches until the trailer is level. One hand on each wrench turning approximately the same amount each time works for me. I wear gloves for setting up and breaking camp so I'm not worried about grease that may get on my hands. We often dry camp in spots that are far from flat and these "jacks" are, in my opinion, much more secure than wooden or plastic blocks.
Cheers,
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09-04-2012, 07:29 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Trailer: Casita
Posts: 188
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shirley LaMoine
When I bought my leveler I choose to buy a similar product made by Milenco and sold in the UK -
Milenco Aluminium Caravan and Motorhome Leveller Level Ramps Caravan Levellers & Chocks Site Accessories Caravannin...
It is made out of aluminum and weighs about 10 lbs or so. The ads state that it will lift 16" tires. It comes in its own carrying case. Like the BAL leveler the Milenco model comes with a ratchet wrench, but also includes a 15" extension. It is very easy to use and I've never broken a sweat when cranking it up. I love love love it and like others have already mentioned, I wouldn't leave home without it!!
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I went to the link to see. Nice, but expensive. However; did anyone else look at the Aquaroll? I think I'm in love.
Dick
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09-04-2012, 08:11 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1972 Boler American and 1979 Trillium 4500
Posts: 5,141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
You do realize it is impossible to show both in action and take the picture simultaneously. What would I use to press the button with? my feet?
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Use a tripod and program your camera to take pictures at timed intervals, or get an assistant.
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