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Old 09-29-2015, 09:55 AM   #15
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We love our Scamp 13 without a bathroom. Would not now consider a 13 foot with a bathroom. Want a bathroom move up to a larger size trailer where your not loosing 30% of your available space.

At night if it is just too onerous to go out to the rest room we use a porta potty. When we camp we like the open feeling of our Scamp 13 when all the drapes are open. We took the bunk bed out and the front bench is cut for a drop down table. We drop this table down and sleep on it when we want to. The rear bed stays down. We just don't need a big table inside for the 2 of us. I hate raising and lowering the back table. This could be made lighter and easier but we just don't need it.

We couldn't have any of this with a front bathroom.
The joy of these little trailers is you can set them up any way you want. There is no right and wrong.

We got very lucky in finding this trailer as we were looking for any 13 foot trailer at the time when we found this one. Luckily we got one without a bathroom.

Draining a porta potty or using the dump station are one and the same its a nasty job and someone has to do it. My gal says its far easier than dealing with stinky baby diapers so whats the big deal.
Hi! We're looking for a trailer, but hadn't considered the 13' Scamp/boler/trilliums really because of the lack of a permanent bed and dinette...never considered doing what you did, and now, it's like a huge light bulb went off, thank you! Perfect idea! Makes all those lightweight little roundy-eggs possible again! Kai in Seattle
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:11 AM   #16
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Am I crazy to considering looking for a Scamp 13 without bath. I would be traveling alone, and have a port-a-potty I can bring. I was hoping to shower at campgrounds and use the Good Sam Travel Guide to plan stops with decent bathrooms. I just don't want to mess with the grey and black tanks. I'm used to camping in a tent for many years, so this will be new to me.
Thanks for your thoughts....
Unless you're never going to be washing dishes or brush your teeth in the trailer, you'll still need to deal with the grey water tank. So since you'd likely have to stop and deal with that, having a black water tank isn't much more of a hassle.

We used to tent camp, then got an RV (which we've since sold) and will eventually buy a molded FGTT. For me personally, I love the convenience and cleanliness of my own bathroom. If we ever want to boondock, we'd still be able to shower.

Once while driving through Kansas we were outrunning multiple tornadoes and didn't feel safe stopping until all of the storms had died down (around 2 am). We ended up in a parking lot somewhere in the middle of nowhere. After that stressful night drive, a shower first thing in the morning was great.

I don't think I would want to be without a full bathroom, but we do tend to go on long, multi-week trips and travel with small dogs who may need baths during the trip.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:24 AM   #17
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If you are traveling alone, you would find a front bath Scamp13 to be ideal. With one simple mod you can have a permanent bed, a two person dinette with lounging room, a kitchen and a bath with a shower, all set up at once. Plus you get a BUNCH more storage space and a big front closet.
Using a dumpstation is easy with a quick learning curve (about on the level of pumping gas if done right, less smelly and usually less frequent.
It is so much more convenient from shower to bed or from shower to closet than it is taking luggage to a public shower in all weather conditions and dressing in a wet stall.

All that and the ability to boondock or overnight at WalMart or CrackerBarrel in route and save money and time while having all the comforts of home ,not mention the security.
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Quote: "Unless you're never going to be washing dishes or brush your teeth in the trailer, you'll still need to deal with the grey water tank."


Actually, many 13' FGRVs don't have a gray water tank and depend on a simple bucket or a rolling tote to capture sink drainage.


That said, more and more campgrounds, both public and private, are requiring a closed drain system, meaning a fitting to fitting hose between the RV and an external holding tank.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:36 AM   #19
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No bath works fine

Campgrounds showers ARE sufficiently available. Wet wipes or a sponge is sufficient in between times when a shower may not be available.

For other necessities, an old empty instant coffee jar works; then empty that into a larger empty old anti-freeze bottle, then carry that to the campground lavatory and dump it as needed. --- For "emergency" other necessities, a portapotty, or other receptacle with kitty litter, works well.

We have a 16' Scamp and, like you, prefer to not fool with black & gray tanks, and cleaning a bathroom, and having a bathroom occupy precious little space, etc.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:37 AM   #20
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We use a small 7 gallon tote for our grey water from the sink. Much bigger than that you cant carry it to dump it. It can hook to the drain and can also be hooked up to a stinky slinky if you want to. Previous owner paid some big bucks for it.
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If you are traveling alone, you would find a front bath Scamp13 to be ideal. With one simple mod you can have a permanent bed, a two person dinette with lounging room, a kitchen and a bath with a shower, all set up at once. Plus you get a BUNCH more storage space and a big front closet.
Using a dumpstation is easy with a quick learning curve (about on the level of pumping gas if done right, less smelly and usually less frequent.
It is so much more convenient from shower to bed or from shower to closet than it is taking luggage to a public shower in all weather conditions and dressing in a wet stall.

All that and the ability to boondock or overnight at WalMart or CrackerBarrel in route and save money and time while having all the comforts of home ,not mention the security.
Hi, can you describe that one simple mod? VERY interested!
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:53 AM   #22
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If you are traveling alone, you would find a front bath Scamp13 to be ideal. With one simple mod you can have a permanent bed, a two person dinette with lounging room, a kitchen and a bath with a shower, all set up at once. Plus you get a BUNCH more storage space and a big front closet.

Floyd, This sounds perfect. Can you elaborate/point to the simple mod? Would be VERY interested. Thanks.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:57 AM   #23
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Us older folks really like the bathroom. It makes those "middle of the night " trips so much more convenient hehehe. Also, I don't care for the public showers. As clean as they might seem my family and I have still managed to get things such as athletes foot even with all precautions you can possibly take. Being able to just pull off the highway and use the bathroom is very handy for me. Sometimes the rest areas aren't where they need to be lol..
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:59 AM   #24
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Our 1971 Boler did not have a bath/shower, and being that we cook outside when we camp we really didn't need the kitchen just a fridge. So we ripped out the kitchenette, turned the front bunk/couch 90 degrees to where the kitchenette was, rebuilt the closet to a cabinet to hold our 1.7 cu ft fridge and built a bathroom in the front.

Unlike many bathrooms in 13' scamps & casitas our bath sits to the door side of the trailer to allow room for the bunks on the other side. We used an accordion door so we can leave it open when the bath is not in use without being in the way to keep the original open feeling as much as possible. We used a porta potty for the toilet and a large utility tub for the shower stall that fit perfectly in the center cut out of the frame. We have a Fastair instant hot water heater mounted on the trailer tongue with both city water connection and a 16 gallon fresh water tank.

For the drain we connected an outside water spigot with valve to our PVC drain coming out of the shower so all we have to do is connect a garden hose gray water line to it and the other end to the Camco gray water adapter which fits in the standard RV park sewer connection & open the valve on the spigot. I do also have a portable collapsible gray water tank (5 gallons) for when we are boondocking.

I included a picture of the camco fitting and a picture of the bath (have to get one taken of the finished product). I am glad we did this as now we can have a hot shower when/wherever which will come in handy when we make our way to the grand canyon in the spring.
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:06 AM   #25
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Quote: "Unless you're never going to be washing dishes or brush your teeth in the trailer, you'll still need to deal with the grey water tank."


Actually, many 13' FGRVs don't have a gray water tank and depend on a simple bucket or a rolling tote to capture sink drainage.


That said, more and more campgrounds, both public and private, are requiring a closed drain system, meaning a fitting to fitting hose between the RV and an external holding tank.
Greywater tank is optional on layout one and in package on layout 2, it is rare to find a modern era 13 without one.
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Here is the portable collapsible gray water tank, we used this in a campground the first weekend we actually camped in the Boler as I had not finished the plumbing project for the sewer line and it worked great no problems. It has a valve in the hose fitting to close it off to prevent spillage.
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Floyd, This sounds perfect. Can you elaborate/point to the simple mod? Would be VERY interested. Thanks.
Here are a couple of pictures of my wraparound couch mod...
Contact me for more details when your ready...
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Old 09-29-2015, 11:15 AM   #28
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My 2 cents worth of observations based on many years of RV trailer ownership.
I tent camped when I was in the Boy Scouts over 50 years ago...fun for kids...not so much for adults.
Camping for me is about comfort and making things convenient.

Picture this...a cool night...stiff wind blowing...raining...it is 3 AM...gotta go..two options...use comfortable clean bathroom in travel trailer...then flush toilet...back in bed...warm and dry. Option two: Find flashlight and rain gear...wander around in the wind and rain, flashlight in hand looking for campground's bathhouse or perhaps a pit toilet...hope batteries in flashlight don't die on the trip...complete the task and trudge back to your FGRV while wishing it had a bathroom...back at the trailer take off your wet clothes...towel off and crawl into bed a little damp and cold.
The choice is yours....my travel trailer has a bathroom with flush toilet and shower with nice hot water. I wouldn't have it any other way.
The porta-potty thing is way more messy and stinky than a simple trip to the dump station as you depart the campground. If the campground has full hookups it is even easier.

Happy Camping!
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