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12-30-2012, 11:58 PM
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#41
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Originally Posted by Francesca Knowles
But...why not a "Rolls"?
Especially since it does...and so well, too!
Francesca, 'nother lucky one.
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You mean a Rolls-Kenardly?
It "Rolls" down hill....Kenardly make it up the next!
While Scamp still makes fine molded fiberglass interior components for the Standard, the Scamp Deluxe custom cabinetry is unmatched in the industry.
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12-31-2012, 01:24 AM
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#42
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Senior Member
Name: Daniel A.
Trailer: Bigfoot 17.0 1991 dlx
British Columbia
Posts: 741
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Quote:
Originally Posted by floyd
No, just pointing out that the Boler is the "the most imitated/duplicated design".
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If this were true one would think Boler had a patent so no one could do what you suggest.
There are hundreds of products on the market competing from cars, heaters,televisions, phones, bikes.
The statement is ambiguous.
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12-31-2012, 03:41 AM
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#43
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler (B1700RGH) 1979
Posts: 5,002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel A.
If this were true one would think Boler had a patent so no one could do what you suggest.
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I, for one, would certainly not think that. Although the Boler shell shape could perhaps have been registered as an industrial design (but was not, to my knowledge), there is nothing even remotely patentable about it.
I did find one trailer shape registered as an industrial design, but I can't recall which one at the moment... and it wasn't Boler.
Update: as Ken later posted, another topic - Are trailer shapes patented? - identifies the Amerigo design as "patented". Note, however, that this is not actually a patent, but a registered industrial design.
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12-31-2012, 10:51 AM
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#44
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,669
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And here I thought that I could avoid this controversy by saying
"all little molded rigs swiped the concept from the Boler" !
Silly me...carry on!
Francesca
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12-31-2012, 10:53 AM
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#45
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Senior Member
Trailer: 93 Burro 17 ft
Posts: 6,024
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Quote:
Originally Posted by floyd
Being a Ford guy, I'm not real fond of the "Chevy" reference when applied to my 13 Scamp Deluxe, but I must confess to having used it myself....
I have said ..."This is the "Corvette" of travel trailers. It is small, fiberglass,draws a lot of attention, and you have to tow it if you want to go anywhere with it.
There are several nice trailers available and I love them all, but there is not one for which I would trade my Scamp.
I would sure like the Willerby, the Oxygen, the LiteHouse, or maybe the PlayPac for a second trailer though.
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No offense intended to the non-GM folks, of course. I'm not a GM fan either. Maybe I should have said:
Scamp = Chevy/Ford
Casita = Buick/Mercury
;D
Oh, and I'd forgotten about Eggcamper. Um, like a Dodge?
Not sure I would liken Trillium to Bentley, since the Bentleys were notoriously heavy vehicles!
I'll add Oliver = Tesla (good luck finding one)
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12-31-2012, 10:58 AM
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#46
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel A.
If this were true one would think Boler had a patent so no one could do what you suggest.
There are hundreds of products on the market competing from cars, heaters,televisions, phones, bikes.
The statement is ambiguous.
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There is certainly nothing ambiguous about the statement.
I cannot confirm whether a patent would even apply in this case, but while Boler was established Canadian, most of the companies mentioned were established as U.S. companies anyway.
I understand that Scamp began by setting up to make parts for Boler.
Excuse me, I just found something really cool and lost interest in this thread...
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12-31-2012, 11:03 AM
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#47
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Senior Member
Name: Ginny
Trailer: Escape
Alaska
Posts: 112
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Sometimes it's what falls into your lap. We needed something very lightweight because we didn't want to buy a new tow vehicle and found an almost new Scamp 13' relatively (5 hours) close by. We had considered the Parkliner but, as a new product, there weren't many available. It was also heavier than the Scamp. Unlike some folks on this forum, a bathroom was the primary reason I wanted a camper and I'm very glad I have one- especially at 2 AM in the woods of Maine.
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12-31-2012, 11:29 AM
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#48
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Francesca Knowles
"Opinion piece"????
Heavens to Murgatroyd, no.
Like everything else I post publicly, it'll be 100% cast-in-stone, undeniably provable fact.
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Hurry up will you! I cant wait!
Just remember even if you find a reference on the internet that appears to be a scan of the original document you cant use it here as it authenticity can not be confirmed due to the fact its on the internet!
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12-31-2012, 11:36 AM
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#49
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carol H
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Not to worry...all references are safely stowed on my Very Own Bookshelf, and anyone is welcome to c'mon over and look things up!
Francesca
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12-31-2012, 11:36 AM
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#50
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Senior Member
Name: Alan
Trailer: 2006 Escape 17 B Raven and a Pearl
Alberta
Posts: 163
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Quote "I'm working on a "hierarchy of what molded trailers should look like/do", and I expect it to Turn the Whole World on Its Ear when I get it done..."
i have two requests
Could you put Surfside Front kitchens first on your list??
And if i upgrade to an Escape would you be kind enough to redo the list to put the Escape first??
lol this list should prove entertaining to say the least
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12-31-2012, 11:40 AM
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#51
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 1,578
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12-31-2012, 11:45 AM
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#52
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alan in alberta
Quote "I'm working on a "hierarchy of what molded trailers should look like/do", and I expect it to Turn the Whole World on Its Ear when I get it done..."
i have two requests
Could you put Surfside Front kitchens first on your list??
And if i upgrade to an Escape would you be kind enough to redo the list to put the Escape first??
lol this list should prove entertaining to say the least
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Well, since both of the above are Trillium-based, they're sorta near the top by association anyway...
BUT
Since The List will be confined to currently manufactured units, I'm afraid the Surfside can't be on it at all...
And I'm not sure how well the all-wood interior of the Escape will do in the "Can it last for thirty years if left in a farmer's field?" test...
Francesca
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12-31-2012, 12:15 PM
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#53
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
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. . . and you might as well lump the Snoozy interior in with the Escape's, Francesca, as it is also pretty woody. But there's always a time to believe (right now) and a time to doubt (later). Time will tell, and in the meantime, many of us obviously prefer the House Beautiful look over Utilitarian Icebox.
jack
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12-31-2012, 12:16 PM
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#54
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Senior Member
Name: Daniel A.
Trailer: Bigfoot 17.0 1991 dlx
British Columbia
Posts: 741
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This must be the original .
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12-31-2012, 12:20 PM
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#55
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Senior Member
Name: Jack
Trailer: '98 BURRO 17WB
Delaware
Posts: 2,548
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Or this:
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12-31-2012, 12:27 PM
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#56
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Moderator
Trailer: 2009 19 ft Escape / 2009 Honda Pilot
Posts: 6,229
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Francesca Knowles
And I'm not sure how well the all-wood interior of the Escape will do in the "Can it last for thirty years if left in a farmer's field?" test...
Francesca
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Many a farmers house built with wood interiors has stood in their fields for over 100 years around here, and this is without the luxury of a fiberglass shell. ; )
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12-31-2012, 12:29 PM
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#57
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Francesca Knowles
And I'm not sure how well the all-wood interior of the Escape will do in the "Can it last for thirty years if left in a farmer's field?" test...
Francesca
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Funny enough Escape has been conducting for the past 6 years or so their own experiment in that regard. Their advertising beside the #1 Highway in the Valley has a couple of their trailers sitting out in a farmers field with the cows roaming all around them..... I understand the only problems that have been noted to date is that the cows like to rub up against the trailers which can lead to interesting issues
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12-31-2012, 12:31 PM
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#58
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbit
. . . and you might as well lump the Snoozy interior in with the Escape's, Francesca, as it is also pretty woody.
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Oh, I do!
And Scamp's new all-wood option, too...
Given the number of threads here with pics of thirty year old wood being shoveled out of old fiberglass trailers, one has to question the anticipated longevity of models presently on offer!
It seems to me that while perhaps appropriate for more "breathable" stick-built RV's, hydroscopic materials like plywood cabinetry in an enclosed fiberglass shell is not a recipe for longevity.
Francesca
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12-31-2012, 12:35 PM
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#59
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Senior Member
Name: Alan
Trailer: 2006 Escape 17 B Raven and a Pearl
Alberta
Posts: 163
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Francesca Knowles
Well, since both of the above are Trillium-based, they're sorta near the top by association anyway...
BUT
Since The List will be confined to currently manufactured units, I'm afraid the Surfside can't be on it at all...
And I'm not sure how well the all-wood interior of the Escape will do in the "Can it last for thirty years if left in a farmer's field?" test...
Francesca
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Ok.... if i order an Escape i will ask for pressure treated wood just as a precaution
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12-31-2012, 12:45 PM
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#60
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Many a farmers house built with wood interiors has stood in their fields for over 100 years around here, and this is without the luxury of a fiberglass shell. ; )
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you can be sure that many of them have far more sources of water leakage through the roof than the Escape does as well.
Not to mention Bigfoot has been using a fair bit of wood in their interiors for 30 years or more and many of the originals are still around.
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