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Old 02-02-2016, 05:00 PM   #1
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Bigger Oliver

Ron Merritt sold his 2015 Oliver 23.5 seemingly without much trouble. The reason for selling was stated as needing more room, which I can certainly understand. There are times I would like my Oliver to be about a foot longer and wider...more like the small Airstream. At the very least there are three things that would make life easier as I move into the land of arthritis.

(1) a larger, elevated refrigerator. The four CF floor level reefer is just not what a $50,000 trailer should have. For heavens sake, Escape has a great reefer that you can even stand up to get things in and out.

(2) A separate shower. I don't mind the public showers, but it would be nice to have a shower in my own head without having to mop down all the walls afterward.

(3) A dinette that will seat four grown ups.

Let's be honest. When Oliver designed their trailers they just copied what was already on the market and made them beefier and a little more jazzed up. (Think Casita floor plan) I know there is a market for these trailers (I own one) but where is the next evolution in molded fiberglass trailers? Will we see a slide?

Ron should have been able to move up in a fiberglass trailer, but other than Bigfoot there are none to be had. I imagine we will be in a Flying Cloud before too many years.

Just sayin'.
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Old 02-02-2016, 05:50 PM   #2
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Just wait for the rumored new Bigfoot 28 footer...or find an old Bigfoot 28' Silver Cloud!
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Old 02-03-2016, 06:07 PM   #3
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A 28 footer. Wow. That get's my attention.


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Old 02-03-2016, 07:10 PM   #4
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The Bigfoots are nice on the inside and their floor plans the last time we looked into them beat the Air Streams hands down, not even close. Granted the Airstreams are "stylin" but under serious considerations they just didn't cut it at least for us. Repairing dents, hail storm damage, constant pop rivet replacements, hot in the summer, cold in winter, sweat on the inside, I could go on butů

Bigfoots are true 4 season campers if this is meaningful, Airstream not even close. They don't even use insulated windows like Oliver, BF and optional Escape's. But at 28 ft you'll need a different tow vehicle, probably even with the 25 ft, but same could be said for a Flying Cloud too. Also the Bigfoot's like Oliver's are noticeably quieter on the inside from extraneous noise outside. Dual pane windows and dual shell does make a difference.

Good luck with your choice, but for us we love the Oliver. No regrets what so ever, other than the price of admission.
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Old 02-04-2016, 06:54 AM   #6
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Rob. Likewise we also love our Ollie. Just wishing for a little more room.


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Old 02-04-2016, 09:32 AM   #7
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I have to ask.... with the "backlog" of most of the major FG manufacturers, why would they want to design anything else?? I LOVE the idea of a slideout on a FG trailer (more to give trouble though), but I dont see it happening.

Think about it, the "best" FG manufacturer (IMHO) of the middle of the road FG- Escapes- are NOW enlarging their factory JUST to keep up with the trailers they DO build. They're about a year's backlog with them. Can you imagine them building a 21'er with a slideout?????
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Old 02-04-2016, 09:55 AM   #8
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I agree with Darral, just don't see it happening with slide outs for FG campers. The additional room they provide is appealing without a doubt but there is a downside too. Weight, mechanical-electrical failures, leaks and excessive wind noise from the roll out roof protection.

Before we finally bellied up to the bar for the Oliver we gave some serious consideration to Lance campers which I believe to be the best built conventional travel trailer on the market. While they look like a stick built, they are anything but using some very forward thinking and advanced manufacturing techniques in their new state of the art plant in CA. But even Lance has some quality control issues and a good portion of them are related to their slide-outs. You probably don't see a lot of them back east, but if you ever get the chance and you are truly considering a change the Lance is one to be considered. They certainly don't have the curb appeal of the Air Streams but in every other regard I tend to think its a superior camper, and for half the cost. Seriously you can go inside one of these things and slam your fist into any wall or ceiling and its solid as a rock, no flex at all. Try that on any stick built made with 1/8" Luan on the interiors and your fist will go right through it.

We've come to the conclusion there is NO perfect camper mass produced so inevitably there will be some compromises.
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Old 02-04-2016, 10:05 AM   #9
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We love the Oliver! (not that because we live 30 miles from the factory has anything to do with it ) But they're truly a "quality" trailer.

On the OTHER hand, they put alot of high $$ stuff on there that I feel they could drop down and make it more affordable to others. Stainless fixtures, Bose systems, aluminum wheels....some of that could drop prices. But, I'm thinking Oliver wants a "classy" trailer and possibly wouldnt compromise.

Ok..that was the other hand...now THIS hand, my wife doesnt like the "narrow" isles and there in lies the problem with FG trailers. Ironically, with the layout of my 13' Scamp, the isle is wider than most FG trailers- the Oliver included.

You're 100% right Rob- there's NO perfectly trailer. If it was, it'd cost a million or more... ... and somebody STILL wouldnt be happy

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I agree with Darral, just don't see it happening with slide outs for FG campers. The additional room they provide is appealing without a doubt but there is a downside too. Weight, mechanical-electrical failures, leaks and excessive wind noise from the roll out roof protection.

We've come to the conclusion there is NO perfect camper mass produced so inevitably there will be some compromises.
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The perfect trailer is the one that's perfect for YOU. I found mine, I hope everyone else does too
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Old 02-04-2016, 10:11 AM   #11
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So you have done absolutely NOTHING to the trailer since purchasing it?

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Old 02-04-2016, 10:19 AM   #12
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On the OTHER hand, they put alot of high $$ stuff on there that I feel they could drop down and make it more affordable to others. Stainless fixtures, Bose systems, aluminum wheels....some of that could drop prices. But, I'm thinking Oliver wants a "classy" trailer and possibly wouldnt compromise.

Ok..that was the other hand...now THIS hand, my wife doesnt like the "narrow" isles and there in lies the problem with FG trailers. Ironically, with the layout of my 13' Scamp, the isle is wider than most FG trailers- the Oliver included.
Just for the record I applaud them for their standard quality items, especially things like SS hardware. These things are built to last a lifetime, and I also love the aluminum wheels and believe them to be superior to steel based rims, just MHO. We didn't get a Bose sound system however but being a life long audiophile doubt that would have meant much as we don't spend anytime watching TV or movies while on our adventures.

As far as I know I don't believe there is a shortage of orders for the company, which would imply they are doing the right thing so far.
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Also for the record Rob, they were one of the only FG manufacturers to suspend building of the trailers in Jan. of '09 for lack of sales. What if they HAD built a smaller "sport" trailer to keep it going? I've even inquired of them to do so. Oh yeah, I know the guys and we have done work for them on the "shower inserts" in our shop here.

They're a super company and I"m not knocking what they do...just wish they could endeavor to build a "sport" trailer for us guys that just wont jump for that kind of investment. I hate to say it, but I feel the current owners would/will push to maintain the current sport-no-build segregation as basically AirStream does in their class. Although, A.S. DOES build a "sport" model (smaller)- still very $$. Once I think they had the "Bambi". Nice trailer but I like the Oliver better. I felt like I was in a high-class "Icebox" with all the aluminum interior with the one I visited. I just didnt like it.

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Just for the record I applaud them for their standard quality items, especially things like SS hardware. These things are built to last a lifetime, and I also love the aluminum wheels and believe them to be superior to steel based rims, just MHO. We didn't get a Bose sound system however but being a life long audiophile doubt that would have meant much as we don't spend anytime watching TV or movies while on our adventures.

As far as I know I don't believe there is a shortage of orders for the company, which would imply they are doing the right thing so far.
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Darral are you saying the company now has new owners and not the Oliver family? I wonder because just yesterday I learned that Robert Partee recently left the company and Alicia sometime before the end of last year.

I am aware of the suspension, and not trying to justify it but unlike the other companies making FG trailers Oliver only had less than 50 of them at that time on the road. Barely an unknown company at the time, while Scamp, Casita, Escape had been in business for decades. But from what I was told by a local dealer that sold Bigfoot's they also pulled the plug during this time.
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