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01-11-2016, 08:54 PM
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#21
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,697
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Since you're looking at a Boler, download and print this! Direct link: Fiberglass RV - Document Center - Boler Buyer Guide
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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01-12-2016, 10:22 AM
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#22
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler 1984
Posts: 2,938
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Does not appear to be a Boler. Possibly Paris pacer. Note large kitchen window. Frame is different as is door window. Updated upholstery. Aftermarket cabinetry. Seems to be very nicely done and looks camping ready.
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01-12-2016, 10:25 AM
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#23
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Senior Member
Name: pat
Trailer: MITY LITE
British Columbia
Posts: 174
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Not a boler ? There's room for debate in that one ! All gloves are off ? Is it a boler ?
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01-12-2016, 10:34 AM
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#24
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Senior Member
Name: pat
Trailer: MITY LITE
British Columbia
Posts: 174
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I'm sticking with a 79' boler frame and axle. The only thing that's throwing me off with redpect to the shell is the taillight design on the shell ( not the lights themselves) and the slight fiberglass detailing around the window on the door ...
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01-12-2016, 01:07 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1971 Boler
Posts: 998
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Looking at your pics I would say that the original frame was replaced with a frame to eliminate the step ups and the original axle. That interior is all custom, I would say that the only original part of that camper is the shell as everything else has been modified over the years. The taillight buckets suggest it is not a boler but is a clone as there were a number of fiberglass campers made from the original boler design.
Having said that, it is ONE AWESOME UNIT.
Any owner that has had his boler would know it inside out and the fact that your seller does not know much makes me question a lot of things. BIG RED FLAG.
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Originally Posted by spaghettiroad
I've been offered this as a purchase and jusat want to make sure I'm getting what I was told. Seller tells me the following:
1979
wood floor not fiberglass
NO step up to dining area ( floor area FLAT ) rare ?
says wood finish in kitchen is original and so is large cupboard by the door
NO key for door lock....
says frame and LEAF axle are original
My hunch seller hasn't had it long and his history on it is limited.
My questions for ALL:
Is the floor under lino wood ? I thought older ones were wood and late 70's figerlgass?,,,
frame looks beefier, built in Kelowna? Better frame? Leaf axle red flags?
wood finishings covering fiberglass?
Can an L400 blank key can be obtained from vintage trailer and fitted by a locksmith?
Hitch ball weld on bumper for ?.....
Thanks for any input and suggestions to look for when I inspect in a couple of days. I get it next week, if all checks out here !
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01-12-2016, 02:35 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spaghettiroad
I'm sticking with a 79' boler frame and axle.
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I would as well
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01-12-2016, 02:42 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick Mooyman
Looking at your pics I would say that the original frame was replaced with a frame to eliminate the step ups and the original axle. That interior is all custom, I would say that the only original part of that camper is the shell as everything else has been modified over the years. The taillight buckets suggest it is not a boler but is a clone as there were a number of fiberglass campers made from the original boler design.
Having said that, it is ONE AWESOME UNIT.
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Rick there have been a few 13' bolers attend our meets here on the coast with no step downs in the middle & the frame and axle where clearly original to the trailer. It was my understanding they were built in interior - probable Kelowna has been suggested.
Agree though there have been lots of modifications done to the exterior and interior of the trailer - who knows when and by who.... pretty sure those taillights for example were not original! LOL
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01-12-2016, 04:48 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Name: Bill
Trailer: Had Scamp 13'.
Oklahoma
Posts: 629
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I sure wish my 1978 Scamp 13 had leaf springs!
Oh well...
That is a great looking Boler, and looks well taken care of.
Bill
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01-12-2016, 05:06 PM
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#29
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Commercial Member
Name: Ian
Trailer: 1974 Boler 1300 - 2014 Escape 19'
Alberta
Posts: 1,380
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carol H
Ian, where was yours built? Did they do it all years from that factory that you know of?
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Our was built in Winnipeg, I have no idea if they all had the fiberglass floors.
What I can tell you is they didn't bother matching the floor color with the exterior, mine is yellow/white and it came with a green floor. I have seen a green/white one with a yellow floor.. LOL
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01-12-2016, 05:18 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Name: pat
Trailer: MITY LITE
British Columbia
Posts: 174
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Leaf spring cheaper option for sure. You'd want leaf for the easy maintenance I'm guessing ? If I get this boler, or whatever it is lol , think I'm name it The Chameleon ! Lol
So what about stress of leaf vs torsion on the shell, frame etc....?
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01-12-2016, 05:39 PM
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#31
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Commercial Member
Name: Ian
Trailer: 1974 Boler 1300 - 2014 Escape 19'
Alberta
Posts: 1,380
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spaghettiroad
Leaf spring cheaper option for sure. You'd want leaf for the easy maintenance I'm guessing ? If I get this boler, or whatever it is lol , think I'm name it The Chameleon ! Lol
So what about stress of leaf vs torsion on the shell, frame etc....?
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Shouldn't be any difference on stress either on the body or frame.... the dampening rate will be different (not better or worst just different) and of course the ride height will be more with leaf springs compared to the torsion axle.
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01-12-2016, 05:40 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1971 Boler
Posts: 998
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I have seen a lot of Bolers in my time and have never seen one without the step up, but then there is a first time for everything. It is clear by the pics that the frame and axle have been replaced. The side windows don't look right for a boler either. I am sure it is a clone of some sort but with all the time that has gone by it may be hard to ever find out what it originally was.
I still think it is ONE AWESOME CAMPER what ever it is.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carol H
Rick there have been a few 13' bolers attend our meets here on the coast with no step downs in the middle & the frame and axle where clearly original to the trailer. It was my understanding they were built in interior - probable Kelowna has been suggested.
Agree though there have been lots of modifications done to the exterior and interior of the trailer - who knows when and by who.... pretty sure those taillights for example were not original! LOL
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01-12-2016, 09:28 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Name: pat
Trailer: MITY LITE
British Columbia
Posts: 174
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01-12-2016, 09:45 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Name: John
Trailer: '71 Boler, '87 Play-Mor II
Deep South
Posts: 1,261
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CA Douglas
We looked a bit more at our '79 Boler brochure and found "We designed a special leaf spring axle to smooth out what Mother Nature didn't." Also found "We also moisture seal the door and windows, sandwich the floor in thick layers of fiberglass and insulate the ceiling and walls with Tylon."
Hope this helps.
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So what is "Tylon"? Their brand of ensolite?
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01-12-2016, 10:58 PM
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#35
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Senior Member
Trailer: 92 16 ft Scamp
Posts: 11,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spaghettiroad
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LOL believe I suggest that back on Post #5
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01-12-2016, 11:03 PM
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#36
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Senior Member
Name: pat
Trailer: MITY LITE
British Columbia
Posts: 174
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Yup. Me thinks the bumper has been modified for a spare tire.
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01-12-2016, 11:55 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Trailer: 13 ft Boler
Posts: 1,175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian G.
Our was built in Winnipeg, I have no idea if they all had the fiberglass floors.
What I can tell you is they didn't bother matching the floor color with the exterior, mine is yellow/white and it came with a green floor. I have seen a green/white one with a yellow floor.. LOL
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My '74 was built in WPG as well.
All fiberglass one piece floor and was hand laid up to the lower half as best I can tell. lower half all Pumpkin.
The floor and lower half can be different colour gelcoat because they are from different molds.
fred
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