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Old 05-17-2006, 10:53 PM   #1
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I have a new gig with an on-line newspaper, my first assignment is to write about boon-docking. Care to comment? (See your name in lights!?!) www.opinion250.com

For example, pro-Walmart parking, anti-Wally
Or WAY OFF the beaten path (like I like to do)
How to have enough power/water/etc. for the weekend/ a week/ a summer!
Use your real name and town, or just reply with nickname and province/state

There might be an old thread on this, but I would like permission to use for my story.

No pressure: I will write this one way or the other. All contributors will receive FREE OF CHARGE, a brand-new, non-gold-plated, virtual certificate suitable for framing or for wrapping digital fish.

Thanks!
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Old 05-17-2006, 11:29 PM   #2
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I did purchase a guide book.
http://www.boondockingguide.com/

Here is a few sites that might help.
http://www.phrannie.org/boondock.html

Boondocking ETIQUETTE
http://www.rversonline.org/Boondock.html

I'm sure this is not what your locking for, but I hope it helps.
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Old 05-18-2006, 12:04 AM   #3
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boon-docking, on or off asphalt?

What's asphalt?

Definitions according to Byron.

Camping -- Setting up a small tent or not using a tent at least 1 mile from the nearest road.

Car Camping -- Same as camping only much closer to a road, often in improved camp grounds. (vehicle parked beside you).

RVing -- Parking your rv, (including all kinds of rvs) in a camp ground, with hoop-ups or not.

Boondocking -- Several miles from the nearest paved road in a dispersed camping spot.
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Old 05-18-2006, 06:03 AM   #4
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Boondocking? Did you ever wonder where the term originated? I know that it has something to do with camping in out of the way places that are sometimes referred to as the boondocks or boonies. That should probably be with a capital “B”, as the derivation is from Daniel Boone, the eighteenth century frontiersman who had the habit of moving whenever he could smell the cook fires of his nearest neighbors. Therefore, it refers to a type of antisocial behavior that seems to be inconsistent with camping in Wal-Mart parking lots. The term, Boondocking, implies a certain amount of risk that I find lacking in urban parking lots. Well, maybe not.
If you haven’t found it, there is a forum at http://www.rv.net that is devoted to the subject. The moderators have divided the subject into three categories because the members could not agree on a definition.
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Old 05-18-2006, 06:49 AM   #5
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Boondocking? Did you ever wonder where the term originated? I know that it has something to do with camping in out of the way places that are sometimes referred to as the boondocks or boonies. That should probably be with a capital “B”, as the derivation is from Daniel Boone, the eighteenth century frontiersman who had the habit of moving whenever he could smell the cook fires of his nearest neighbors. Therefore, it refers to a type of antisocial behavior that seems to be inconsistent with camping in Wal-Mart parking lots. The term, Boondocking, implies a certain amount of risk that I find lacking in urban parking lots. Well, maybe not.
If you haven’t found it, there is a forum at http://www.rv.net that is devoted to the subject. The moderators have divided the subject into three categories because the members could not agree on a definition.
Craig, I find this very interesting, being a Thoreau at heart! As I crave quiet, solitude, would I be a Booner? A Boonie? A Lovebug Boone Lover?

Charlynn, good luck on your article. Surely there will be something about Dutch Oven cooking, no? That's the only sure way to create fabulicious food while boondocking!


BTW, why do they call it a "Dutch" Oven?

Cheers!
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Old 05-18-2006, 07:40 AM   #6
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Gigi, If you are a true boondocker, leave the Dutch oven at home. Cooking in a DO is a sure way to end up with company at meal time. It is sort of like playing solitaire, someone will always show up telling you what cards to play.
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Old 05-18-2006, 08:25 AM   #7
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I make at least 1 5000 mi. trip where I use the rest areas, if none a vailable I use walmart. Weekends are at a farm show or fest usually hooked up to electric.
Have to add water for long trip and emptyblack tank. Tow Vehicle charges battery and plug in charges thru converter. Very simple, little work an inexpensive(except for Gas)
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Old 05-18-2006, 10:00 AM   #8
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Congratulations! I'm totally envious of people who can put their thoughts into words and apply them to paper.
I feel that there are three levels to our summer fun..
1 Using the cottage overlooking Lake Erie
2 RV camping and travelling with the Boler
3 Boondocking.. outback canoe camping with my Hennessy Hammock see
www.hennessyhammock.com
Now you know what lightweight camping really is
Please let us know when your articles are on-line. I think we'll all want to take a look.
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Old 05-18-2006, 09:05 PM   #9
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Oh, youse guys are great! Keep it coming!
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Old 05-19-2006, 01:22 AM   #10
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I don't boondock, Charlynn, but I think it's really neat that you're doing an article about it. Will you post the article here when it's finished (or published)?

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Old 05-19-2006, 07:15 AM   #11
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The topic got me to thinking, or at least what passing for thinking in my head. Always a dangerous activity. Some may be offended by my Wal-mart opinion. C'est la vie. Just my comfort level.

I boondock as a destination quite a bit. Mostly because I normally don't plan my vacations until the summer and by then, the campsites have all been reserved. Rustic campsites are usually on a first come first served basis in Michigan. I frequently do a long weekend. I leave Thursday evening, return on Monday in order to be sure to get a choice site.


I. Boondocking as a destination/activity:
A. Limitations are a larger consideration.
* Tankage
--- Comfort level in discarding grey water into the bushes?
--- Sink water into toilet?
----- Larger capacity than grey tank.
----- Will require more tank chemical however.
------- My experience is that the soap "kills" the odor hiding properties of the toilet chemical.
--- Reserve grey tank for showers.
--- I feel dish rinsing generates too much grey water.
----- Spritzing?

* Battery
----- Solar:
----- Value when dry camping in the woods?
----- Modest return of amp-hours unless $$$ panel(s).
----- Can be more than adequate if:
------- Goal is to prolong battery vs. completely replenish.
------- Modest power requirements.

---- Generator:
------- Expensive and quiet vs. loud and cheap.
------- Neighbors.
------- Inverter technology.
--------- Load dependant speed.
--------- Quality of power needed.
------- Limit run time to return to 70 to 80% of battery capacity.
------- Late morning early afternoon.


II. Boondocking as a waypoint on a trip:
A. Asphalt boondocking:
* Personally, I'm not comfortable with Wal-Marts.
* Less an issue with Flying J, Cracker Barrels and other locations obviously serving transients.
* An exception rather than the rule
* Something bothers me about expensive RVs camping on the cheap.
--- I guess I fear being called a cheapskate.
--- I am unpersuaded by the assertion that all the money went into the RV. Isn't the point. To buy something that allows you to afford to camp?
--- Habitual use ruining for the occasional use.
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Gigi, If you are a true boondocker, leave the Dutch oven at home. Cooking in a DO is a sure way to end up with company at meal time. It is sort of like playing solitaire, someone will always show up telling you what cards to play.
That's alright, Bob, I'll let 'em clean up!

Charlynn, I mostly boondock as it's the best way to get away from everyone as I like to set up my easel and paint the day away.

I do have a refrigerator that operates on propane, and that's the single greatest item I have that makes boondocking easy.
For water, I am in the process of getting a water tank added, but, have enjoyed two years of camping by bringing drinking water and getting a 5 gallon container full for dishes and such.
I have a working stove on propane, a small Coleman stove, and, my favorite, charcoal for the Dutch Oven cooking.
Only this year will I finally get a portable toilet and a set up for shower. A couple of friends of mine have offered lake homes and farms for me to use and I would want these facilites along.
For lights, I have candles and battery operated lanterns. I don't miss TV at all but if gone for a week, I may investigate a battery set up. I could always watch a DVD on my laptop if I'm really desperate.

I take along my french easel, my oil paints, some watercolor supplies, books to read, my laptop where I can work on my travel photos, a movie, and I'm pretty happy. Somedays the only contact I have with people is the fellow that comes around for the fees.

Boondocking has made my camping very pleasurable, much more so than when I have to put up with generators, noisy families, etc, cars driving in and out.

I wonder if most of us who do boondock are introverts by nature? While I am an extrovert in my profession, I am an introvert in my personal life.

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You'd have to ask specific questions on boondocking.

I only boondock in the real boonies. Out in the sticks. Generally on National Forest property where I know I'm not going to run into private property concerns.

We have a 24 gallon tank in our rv for fresh water. We have a generator, too. We have gone camping on just the onboard battery and had no problems. We even go boondocking in the winter, due to the fact that our Casita has a gas furnace.

We love boondocking! It's the best! No crowds, lots of quiet.
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Old 05-19-2006, 08:45 PM   #14
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I don't boondock, Charlynn, but I think it's really neat that you're doing an article about it. Will you post the article here when it's finished (or published)?

Nancy
Nancy,

I think I will post the link when published. That way the article will get a lot of "hits" and my new editor will be impressed with how popular I am!

Char

PS Wall-mart and Wall-mart "camping" is new and newsworthy in northern BC: any more comments on that?
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