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Old 08-13-2018, 05:14 PM   #15
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Your questions are hard to answer because it depends on how you camp and the time of year. If you get an Oliver with the solar you can go indefinitely without hooking up to shore power. We don’t drink or cook with water in our fresh tank, so we can go quite a while without running out. Black depends on availability of clean toilets. We’ve been to campgrounds where we wouldn’t go near them and campgrounds where they were downright pleasant. Nice dry camp campgrounds that come to mind are Horsethief near Moab and Indian Cove at Joshua Tree. If you are out on BLM grounds with nothing (like at Quartzsite) your time is not as long. Mike
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Old 08-18-2018, 04:56 PM   #16
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Just wondering, with the Legacy Elite, for two people, how long will the typical water/electricity last? I understand that without a generator, that I cannot use AC. I am just curious as many state parks that I look out do not have hook up for electricity. Also, I know this may be a difficult question to answer, but on the average, how long before you would have to go to dumping station?


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It all depends on you all and where you are. I recommend going some place close to home and/or with backup to see how it works for you all. It can be fun, with out the risk. For example, go to a full service park and do not use the hook ups until they are needed. . One of the things you can test while doing this is your tank monitors. It is always good to know if they work and not just how much time you have between levels.

If you want to extend your stay try using a tote. I find one very useful for gray water. I also recommend experimenting with fresh water run through the gray tank just to ensure it all works as anticipated. It is all about experimenting while managing the down side. This concept can be very helpful in managing partner expectations and avoiding situations that might turn somebody off prematurely. Have a good time.
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Old 08-18-2018, 05:58 PM   #17
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I agree with previous posters - it all depends on resources available close to your camp site such as markets, restrooms & fresh water, as well as your usage of your trailerís facilities.

Regarding electricity, your battery will last longer if you have LED lights and a propane refrigerator, water heater and stovetop. You need to consider if you have more than 1 battery & the type of battery.

Other than lights, what else is happening in your trailer? Do you have a 12 volt ceiling fan, a radio or TV? A CAAP machine? Can you supplement you lights with battery powered LED lamps, head lights, flashlights?

In my experience, fresh water and grey water is a problem. Once again, can you dispose your grey water at your camp site? I have
camped at private grounds where I was given permission to drain my fresh water tank on site. If that is not possible, youíll have to take your trailer to a dump site.

I have no idea re the capacity of your fresh water tank. The extent of your water conservation habits will determine how long that tank lasts. Also, how close are you to store that sells drinking water? Propane tanks?

Which brings me to two issues: trailer/camping resource planning: I alway ID the closest and most convenient propane exchange, fresh water source, dump site and market to my campsite.

Second issue: small trailers are easy to take places - like a dump site or gas station with a potable water faucet. Youíll still want to conserve because itís still a PITA, but itís not the end of the world.

Of course if you decide to camp someplace remote & hours from civilization ... have fun.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:28 PM   #18
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A less drastic approach is to start out in campgrounds with hook-ups. Book a week or two but don't plug in, connect water or sewer, etc. Find out what you run out of/fill up first, and experiment with modifying your behavior to stretch it out longer. Everything's right there if and when you need it.

Just make sure to monitor your battery, not letting it fall below 50% charge, as deep discharges can permanently damage a lead-acid battery.

I agree that there are too many variables- trailer, weather, and personal habits- to hazard even a rough guess.
What a thoughtful response. I like the way you think!
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Old 08-19-2018, 11:16 AM   #19
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Camp out in your driveway for a few days and you'll have the answers to your questions.
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Old 08-19-2018, 03:50 PM   #20
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Camp out in your driveway for a few days and you'll have the answers to your questions.
We camped in our driveway, our campsite at home is better then others we have camped at. It offers electric, sewer, and water, plus the fishing is great.


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Old 08-20-2018, 05:00 PM   #21
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I'm thinking if you can afford such a nice trailer as an Ollie I'm sure you could invest in a nice generator for dry camping. Happy camping!
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Old 08-21-2018, 06:13 AM   #22
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I'm thinking if you can afford such a nice trailer as an Ollie I'm sure you could invest in a nice generator for dry camping. Happy camping!
Many folks that enjoy boondocking don't want to listen to the drone and noise of a generator, nor be bothered with fuel cans and such.

If you like the noise, camp in a campground and enjoy the crowds.

The OP is trying to figure out how long without hookups....

We are only restricted by the black tank fill, we can bring additional fresh water in jerry cans if needed. There are many tricks to slowing the fill of blackwater also. Usually 14 days in a spot is average.

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Old 08-21-2018, 06:46 AM   #23
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My idea of Boondocking is spending a night in a Walmart parking lot and then moving on as soon as we can.

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Old 08-24-2018, 11:10 PM   #24
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A reasonable general rule of thumb is probably 3-6 gallons of water per person, per day. Probably 2-4 of that goes to the gray tank and 1-3 to the black tank.

Power.. anywhere from 12hrs to 5 days on a charge, probably. Depending on battery size, usage, and whether you have solar. Potentially "infinite" if your needs are minimal and you have lots of solar and good sun. Just a couple LEDs for a few hours a day plus the demand pump? That'll last for days on a charge. Charging your laptop and your phone, running the furnace blower and other fans, etc? Could empty the battery in well under a day.
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Old 08-25-2018, 12:37 AM   #25
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What does it really take in terms of water and battery. Like I said earlier it depends on what you think your needs are. We can't answer that. I can however tell what I use. First there 2 of us older folks.
The trailer doesn't have an electric water pump only an hand pump. No shower. All lights except for a couple CCFL lights are LED.

If one wants to really stretch things out you must evaluate needs and wants so that you mostly eliminate the wants and concentrate on the needs.


In our case battery usage depends on the time of year and where. We camp year around. I do have a 65Watt solar panel that comes out about every 4 days for a day. The battery will last at least that long with night time temps into the mid 40s Much colder and the solar time has change a bit. The furnace draws a bit so temperature and approx. furnace run time need to taken into consideration. Night temps above 55 I have no idea how I can go without recharging. I think I've gone over 2 weeks a couple times.


Water usage. Most of water we use is for coffee in the morning and bit of drinking water through out the day. We need a lot less than when we were climbing mountains with a 60lb pack and 45lb pack (me 60 wife 45).
There are large, thick, body wipes so you don't really need a shower. Hands are cleaned with baby wipes and waterless hand cleaner. The idea here is to find way to keep clean without using a lot of water.


That's what we do and it works well for us, but not for everybody. Like I said earlier there are needs and wants. The wants will always get you. The needs you deal with. You have to determine which is which.
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:23 PM   #26
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'docking...

we just got home from 2 weeks stint at Button Bay state park in VT..[none of their SPs have water OR electric hookups BTW] plus 4 nights on the road each way from TN and back. We drive 60 mph or less and stop sooner than most I suppose..but we are not in a hurry!!! ;-)

We camped in our 17' Casita Independence, at a site which also had a permanent lean-to, so our 2 kids could join us and "Tent" therein...for a week

We all used the campground bathouse and shower mostly, and thus saved alot of water. We also use wet-wipes for "sponge baths" and hand washing when we can.

WE have power-miser LED lighting and did 98% of coooking on our "outside" free-standing propane stove or the fire. We tend to NOT cook stuff wh needs alot of pans..and when we can we "clean" pans and utensils w wet wipes...so as to NOT put greasy food residue into the gray tank at all.
Ran the frig on internal propane and still used less than one 20 lb bottle ...

we did occsionally run the generator a couple of hours in the AM..but that was mostly messing around w the thing(new). & to run the MW. The rest of the days we hooked up the 160W ZAMP solar panels and charged batts w them. [It was unexpedly sunny for VT in our experience!! ]
Weather was cooollll at night so we didn't need to run the AC at all for the whole 2 weeks while at Button Bay, tho we used the Max-aire fan alot in the daytimes.

WE did ok w water mainly bks we tend to not use too much. I guess son and I hauled a total of 25 extra gallons of water from a " water point"for the whole 2 weeks. We had to go "dump" tanks one time during the time there.

We are still new to TTing and this was our first attempt at 'docking w/o hookups.
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Sounds like you had a good 1st BD outing Fred, nice.
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