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Old 05-28-2013, 08:32 PM   #15
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Carl; how do you like that electric oven with cooktop? It got terrible reviews on Amazon, so we looked at a similar one made by Avanti which got great reviews on one site, and bad reviews on another, so it's impossible to decide which is best.
We've actually never used it yet. That will be an interesting question
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I have mine connected to the main gas supply for the Boler (20 lb tank on tongue with 11 wc regulator) I checked the specifications for the Camp Chef and the supplied regulator was listed as 11 wc. It works great with no issues.

The oven is fiddly to regulate, the burner is not on a thermostat so you need to adjust the flame to control temp. If you are not careful the oven will be at 400 deg. But it works great for morning muffins and pizza

Just remember when using any open flame appliance inside make sure a window is open and never leave it unattended.
Thanks, Ian- I couldn't find the w.c. specs online.

Also thanks for clearing up what I think is an important issue with this stove- if I understand you right, the oven doesn't have what would ordinarily be called a thermostat- heat is regulated "by hand", more or less, just as with a stovetop-type (or Dutch) camp oven.

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I have mine connected to the main gas supply for the Boler (20 lb tank on tongue with 11 wc regulator) I checked the specifications for the Camp Chef and the supplied regulator was listed as 11 wc.
Thanks Ian - so the Camp Chef includes a separate regulator, which lets you bypass it and use low-pressure fuel... or it just tolerates low pressure into the regulator. My barbecue has a regulator on the end of the input hose running at the standard 11" W.C. so I could use low pressure fuel, although I would need to change hoses to skip the regulator.

The product web page for Camp Chef’s Outdoor Camp Oven describes operation from high-pressure propane but not low pressure, and I don't see any manuals there. Ian, did you bypass the regulator or just feed it low pressure?
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:18 PM   #18
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Interesting. I just looked at the specs for the Camp Chef it has two 7500 BTU stovetop burners and a 3000 BTU oven burner.
That's normal: it takes less heat flow to keep an insulated oven cavity hot than to keep an open pot boiling.

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So unless I am wrong, the biggest worry would be accidentally leaving the oven on.
Sure, just as with a conventional built-in oven and stovetop.
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Old 05-29-2013, 06:40 AM   #19
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Thanks, Ian- I couldn't find the w.c. specs online.

Also thanks for clearing up what I think is an important issue with this stove- if I understand you right, the oven doesn't have what would ordinarily be called a thermostat- heat is regulated "by hand", more or less, just as with a stovetop-type (or Dutch) camp oven.

Francesca
I found the regulator specifications by cross referencing the regulator part number. Yes you are correct that the oven flame is adjusted by hand to regulate the oven temperature.

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Thanks Ian - so the Camp Chef includes a separate regulator, which lets you bypass it and use low-pressure fuel... or it just tolerates low pressure into the regulator. My barbecue has a regulator on the end of the input hose running at the standard 11" W.C. so I could use low pressure fuel, although I would need to change hoses to skip the regulator.

The product web page for Camp Chef’s Outdoor Camp Oven describes operation from high-pressure propane but not low pressure, and I don't see any manuals there. Ian, did you bypass the regulator or just feed it low pressure?
The regulator connects onto the back of the stove via a quick connect fitting. I removed the oven regulator and connected the low pressure trailer gas line directly to the stove.

I made a bracket to secure the stove to the cabinet, by removing 2 bolts I can remove the stove for use outside with a disposable propane tank.
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I can read Brian! And I think the company "Camp Chef" is a great company. And if they say DO NOT use indoors I wont use indoors. You can do what ever you want. You can even have a camp fire indoors if you like. Good on ya. Camp Chef has went out of their way to help and I read the warnings on everything. That is my 2 cents! Live and let live.

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I called the Camp Chef Co and has they stated" not for indoor use" and the number reason is of the high BTU's ! They said it has higher BTU's than your reg camper stoves and ovens and even your home ovens. Given the fact of the small sq footage of a camper you can be in danger. I also asked them if they would ever use them in their camper? She said she has a 25 ft camper and there would be no way she would use one in her camper.
This is just a warning people. Do what ever you feel safe in doing. I also thought of this ideal and after reading up on facts, I (I) would not use one in a small space. If I were to use one in a small space I would take caution when doing so. These units heat up pretty good so has another egg head put it, leave space all around it and having a vent over it would be a smart thing.
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Could also just use it outside...Im thinking of buying their oven model, just to be able to bake some fresh bread or muffins or something when camping with a group... great smell to wake up to in the am, and could sit it easily on a table with a hose to your propane tanks. Portable Outdoor Oven | Camp Chef
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Interesting comments ... the Camp Chef stove burners are rated at 7,500 BTUs

Atwood RV Range uses (2) 6,500 BTU and (1) 9,000 BTU burners
Amana RV Range uses (2) 6,500-BTU and (1) 9,100-BTU burner
Both these common built-in RV stoves have burners that have a higher output than the Camp Chef

Home ranges use burners from 5,000 and up 19,000 BTU, most average out at 9,000-12,000 BTU again higher than the Camp Chef

I agree that everyone should do what they feel comfortable using, any open flame in an enclosed space poses risks and as I mentioned make sure a window is open and the appliance is attended at all times.

Looking at the warnings associated with most products these days it appears lawyers provide much of the content to the product literature, the 16 page Atwood Range manual contains 21 multi-bullet warnings, danger and cautions. If I was concerned I would never use that stove either.
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I can attest to the fact that home burners are much hotter than those on the Camp Chef- and for that matter on any stove designed for an RV. This is something that's always bugged me, and if I could figure out a way to "transplant" those on my home stove to the trailer I'd be a happier camper...

Since the Camp Chef appears to work on the interior trailer gas supply, my main concern with interior installation after air supply/heat shielding would be the plumbing. The rubber hoses typically used for portable appliances aren't approved for permanent installation in a trailer (or anywhere), so I'd hope that copper or black iron pipe would be used in this kind of an install.

If portability/easy removal for outside use is wanted, one could hard-plumb a quick disconnect at the stove and use the rubber hose, provided that it isn't left hooked up when not in active use.

Thanks for posting on this subject, Ian- it's answered a lot of questions that have been in my mind since this stove first came out!

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Since the Camp Chef appears to work on the interior trailer gas supply, my main concern with interior installation after air supply/heat shielding would be the plumbing. The rubber hoses typically used for portable appliances aren't approved for permanent installation in a trailer (or anywhere), so I'd hope that copper or black iron pipe would be used in this kind of an install.
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Good point and I agree. My installation is with copper lines with gas approved fittings ... no rubber here.
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Good point and I agree. My installation is with copper lines with gas approved fittings ... no rubber here.
I guessed you probably had, Ian...just thought it was worth mentioning in case others possibly interested in doing something similar mistakenly presumed otherwise.

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Well use your common sense. What does your common sense tell you about the difference between your propane camp stove and your propane kitchen stove, and the propane stove inside an RV. Then take into account the effects of liability rulings in the US over the last 100 years and determine for yourself how you act regarding ignoring the warnings printed on cooking apparatus designated as use outdoors only. Doing something that is potentially dangerous simply because some unseen person on the internet says it's ok is the dumbest reason for doing anything that I can think of.
My names is Hank Hill and I sell propane and propane accessories. Dammit Bobby!
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I can read Brian!
Where did that come from? I'm sure everyone here can read and I certainly didn't suggest otherwise.

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My Mr Buddy heater has a built-in oxygen sensor
That's good... and entirely irrelevant to how cleanly it burns under normal air conditions.
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