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04-09-2012, 08:31 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Former Burro owner and fan!
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Being a camphost in Forest service campgrounds all summer long, I know a tad bit about unruly campers..and hosts.
First off, I see campers daily, and to be honest, the worst ones are actually those in RVs. BIG RVs. By far. They come with big toys, an attitude and LOTS of friends.
I host in more remote areas, so I would say 90% of my campers are in tents. The younger crowds can be unruly, yes, but for the most part I have little trouble. Remote campgrounds draw those that want to camp for the camping experience.. the partiers are generally to lazy to drive that far for a firepit to drink around. This is why I prefer to work these campgrounds.
Second..hosts can not *enforce* the rules. We "advise, cojol, and sometimes beg" for compliance. In reality, its all in the hosts style to get things done quickly, but if that fails, all else is pretty much an empty threat. We have no authority to enforce laws, only an LEO (Law Enforcement Officer) can do that. Threatening to call one may work on some, but the reality is that an LEO is generally at least an hour away..sometimes more.
State Parks with resident rangers are another story, but Forest Service..forget it. We are helpless in most areas. I worked a FS area last year that had 5 LEOs and they patrolled all nite long..it was a known bad area and the FS saw fit to put those resources there..it was really needed, and I am glad they were there. This is the exception, however, and not the rule.
Hosts appreciate folks following all the rules pointed out here..thanks!
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04-09-2012, 09:17 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Trailer: Trillium
Posts: 270
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For several years I also worked as a campground host in a nearby provincial campground. Holiday weekends were a nightmare, especially May 24, July 1 and July 4. Hordes of young people, escaping Mom and Dad's overseeing, piled into the campgrounds to party and drink the weekend. Even though those weekends were designated as 'No alcohol allowed', there was little either the wardens or even the police could do unless there was violence or underage drinking. The police would not escort inebrieated campers out of the park, bc that would mean putting drunks on the public roads. When the kids began to stir the next day, the wardens would escort them out of the campground then. They were blacklisted so they could not return to the park again. I don't think that did much good as the kids would just get someone else to reserve the next camp-site.
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04-10-2012, 04:08 AM
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#23
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Senior Member
Name: john
Trailer: scamp 13
Michigan
Posts: 1,318
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rgrugg
Never have done it but I've been tempted to put on Beethoven's 5th symphony very loud when somebody turned their rock "music" on loud. I like some rock but most I hear is just noise to my ears.
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lol have concidered that with some pretty obnoxious blue grass banjo music i listen to. but figure,you can't teach a pig to sing....
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04-10-2012, 04:39 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 16 ft U-Haul VT
Posts: 2,867
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Anybody for a loud Slim Whitman song? Maybe their heads will explode (Mars Attacks!) .
CindyL
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04-10-2012, 06:21 AM
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Senior Member
Name: john
Trailer: scamp 13
Michigan
Posts: 1,318
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BCDave
You wished to get him killed?
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Uh,,,dave....we don't ask questions we don'twant the answer to.....
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04-10-2012, 06:26 AM
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#26
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Senior Member
Name: john
Trailer: scamp 13
Michigan
Posts: 1,318
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CindyL
Anybody for a loud Slim Whitman song? Maybe their heads will explode (Mars Attacks!) .
CindyL
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lol ohhhh god,,,,i will be shopping the flea markets from now on till i find a slim whitman just for such a purpose...lol now thats funny right there,,,i don't care who you are...
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04-10-2012, 07:16 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 16 ft U-Haul VT
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04-10-2012, 08:20 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2006 16 ft Casita Spirit Deluxe / 1993 Surburban
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The cure for loud music in the neighboring camp is to dig out our youngest daughter's Spice Girls CD and crank it up or the Dixie Chicks kill Earl on repeat full blast.
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04-10-2012, 08:26 AM
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Senior Member
Name: john
Trailer: scamp 13
Michigan
Posts: 1,318
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CindyL
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how do i stop my ears from bleeding like this?
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04-10-2012, 08:16 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 88 Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 196
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Gina, if we had camp hosts like you at our favorite USNF campgrounds we would consider patronizing them again. Some of the worst camping etiquette we have ever experienced was by the hosts themselves. Generators running from 7am to 9 or 10pm. The hosts even constructed a dock(pier) on forest service waterfront. The dock wasn't for a boat or swimming but to mount their satellite dish. The hosts weren't able to provide the simplest answers regarding the local area and didn't even know where the nearest first service station was. Thankfully I did, and was able to register my complaints. Unfortunately the USFS has outsourced the management of our favored campgrounds, and closed many more.The management company doesn't appear to have many standards for their hosts here. We will continue to dispersal camp in the first for now.
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04-10-2012, 09:26 PM
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#31
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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All green of skin... 800 centuries ago, their bodily fluids include the birth of half-breeds. For the fundamental truth self-determination of the cosmos, for dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.
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04-10-2012, 09:46 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: ,Bigfoot 25 foot plus Surfside 14 foot
British Columbia
Posts: 1,148
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04-10-2012, 10:11 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,520
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BCDave
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Actually, the next line is...
"What the h*ll does that mean?"
You have just GOT to see "Mars Attacks"
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04-10-2012, 11:56 PM
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Moderator
Trailer: Fiber Stream 1978 / Honda Odyssey LX 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rgrugg
I've been tempted to put on Beethoven's 5th symphony very loud ...
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... or better yet:
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04-11-2012, 12:31 AM
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I am a big fan of the O Fortuna, from the Carmina Burana, but I would be afraid of a creepy kid in golden armor riding through the campground, laughing maniacally. Plus I believe that since 1981 it is a requirement that you must fly the Pendragon banner if you play it.
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04-11-2012, 04:11 AM
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Senior Member
Name: john
Trailer: scamp 13
Michigan
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that would be good,,,while you don you viking helmet and pick up you broad sword while glaring at the offenders.
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04-11-2012, 05:40 PM
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Junior Member
Name: Andrew
Trailer: 13' Burro
Colorado
Posts: 14
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One of the biggest mistakes we ever made was camping on a private site over Memorial Day Weekend some years ago. Never again.
The campground manager was a veritable prison warder, reprimanding all and sundry for the most trivial offences. Parking in the wrong area while registering, fishing from the wrong bit of the shore and otherwise not following rules which I'm sure, she was just making up as she went along.
Until...it turned dark and I suspect, she went off on her broomstick. Because she sure as heck wasn't enforcing the rules by now.
Country music* blaring from open truck doors, language that would have made a longshoreman blush, drunken yelling, even gunshots.
Around 2am, one brave soul called out "Can you guys keep it down a bit" only to be met with a barrage of foul-mouthed abuse and the music being turned up even louder. And this was from people well into their 30's and 40's.
The next day I drove over to the manager's office to lodge a complaint but before I could open my mouth, she shouted "You need to slow down!". There were no posted speed limits and I doubt I was doing more than 15mph.
I'm proud to say, I lost my temper and gave her a sample of what we'd endured all night.
* Yeah I know, that's an oxymoron.
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04-11-2012, 06:32 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler 1984
Posts: 2,938
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Sometimes it's an overzealous junior park person that causes the problem.
We made reservations to camp in Jasper. We told them that there would be two families and two vehicles..... No Problem, sir.
At the main gate we showed them the reservation info and pointed out that there were two vehicles....No problem, sir.
At the campground entrance we did the same and pointed out that there were TWO vehicles...No problem, sir.
Three hours later along comes a park attendant...".Excuse me sir you will have to remove a vehicle as you have one too many for the site."
"OK, where is your overflow parking area?"
"I'm sorry we don't have one. You will have to park on a street in town"'
"Then you will be personally responsible for any damage to my vehicle or theft from it, while it's in town and I am 3000 miles from my home?"
"Oh, no sir. That's not our responsibility.
"But your reservation desk, the main gate and the campground gate persons all gave their OK".
"Sir thet's not my problem, you will have two hours to remove your vehicle or have it towed".
Could I please speak with your supervisor?"
"No, sir, that's not possible. You have two hours.".... She left.
That's when the guy next door with a huge mobile came over and suggested that I park on his site well backed up against my area. My trunk lid was actually right beside my trailer hitch. ....The young lady came back and walked all around both sites for about five minutes before getting back into her truck and without another word, making a hasty retreat. About an hour later a senior official came by, stopped, looked the sites over and waved as he left.
I know that she had her rules to follow BUT, it did leave a bad taste in the mouth.
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04-11-2012, 08:09 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2008 20 ft Flagstaff Pop-Up (206ST) / 2005 Sienna
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That's annoying when e'body doesnt know the (same) rules and then you get penalized for their lack of knowledge.
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