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Old 08-02-2013, 07:49 AM   #57
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My cryptic reply was to suggest that tow ratings for European versions of "similar" vehicles have no bearing on what limits to use on U.S. versions.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:42 AM   #58
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As was mentioned, the US/Euro tow rating debate has been beaten to death. So, I will just put it this way -- as somebody who may be sharing the road with you, I respectfully ask that you limit the use of your vehicle to the specifications for the country you are using it in. If you wish to tow according to European tow ratings, feel free, but PLEASE only do so IN EUROPE. Thanks in advance.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:48 AM   #59
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If I was feeling close to my tow limit, I would install brakes on a 13ft camper. I agree that most people spend more time outside than inside. Call up Scamp because many times they can give you the names of people in your area that will let you tour their camper.
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If I was feeling close to my tow limit, I would install brakes on a 13ft camper. I agree that most people spend more time outside than inside. Call up Scamp because many times they can give you the names of people in your area that will let you tour their camper.
Front bath 13 scamps now come with brakes as part of the package.
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Front bath 13 scamps now come with brakes as part of the package.
I would definitely get the breaks.
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As was mentioned, the US/Euro tow rating debate has been beaten to death. So, I will just put it this way -- as somebody who may be sharing the road with you, I respectfully ask that you limit the use of your vehicle to the specifications for the country you are using it in. If you wish to tow according to European tow ratings, feel free, but PLEASE only do so IN EUROPE. Thanks in advance.
One would think you would be happy to see a smaller engine in the tow vehicles of those you "share the road with" especially if that is the only factor reducing the tow rating.
There is , contrary to some opinions here, more to ratings than safety issues, if someone chooses to subject his drivetrain to extra stress or chooses to drive and accellerate slower, it would seem to be of no concern to those with whom he "shares the road" as long as the tow vehicle has a capable chassis with adequate capacity.
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...as long as the tow vehicle has a capable chassis with adequate capacity.
That's just it. He doesn't.

Why is it that some people will fight so hard to defend the right to endanger other people? I just don't get it.
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Tow ratings sometimes are hooked to a safety issue (such as brakes or receiver attachment strength), but on the other hand they can be hooked to a reliability issue (transmission, cooling system, etc.) instead. Hard for a layman to know if exceeding the ratings puts safety at risk or just equipment life, or if it just exceeds the corporate law staff's sense of caution.

Euro ratings are generally higher. Whether the vehicle is substantially identical or enough different to justify, is often hard to quantify.

On the subject of height: I used to feel bad about not growing to 6'2" like my dad. But when it comes to not bumping my head as frequently as he did and when shopping for trailers, I'm quite happy with my 5'8". It turns out that my father's father was short like me.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:16 PM   #65
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I'm surprised while reading these charged threads that there are not more people killed everyday as a result of failure to stop at a stop sign, or failure to yield on a highway. There appears to be a split among society as those who read and follow posted limits on speed, weight, capacity, size of trailer, drag coefficient versus those who feel those rules are made for others to follow. Why not just question the need for stopping at a stop sign the same as exceeding your tow capacity? Where does one draw the line between compliance and non-compliance. Is it a personality difference? Why are some compliant in some areas and non-compliant in others? We live in a compliant society, that can not be changed.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:17 PM   #66
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That's just it. He doesn't.

Why is it that some people will fight so hard to defend the right to endanger other people? I just don't get it.
I'd like to set a couple of things straight. I just posed a simple question regarding the enormous tow rate diference between the NA and UK specs. This extreme difference didn't pass my reasonable test but I'm a reasonable person so no one need fear me being a hazard on the road. I'm just one of those strange people who sometimes like to know why things are the way they are.

That being said, I may be a newbie to this site but I'm not to trailering. I've towed everything from a popup to large trailers and 5th wheels. I've even had a couple of motor-homes. None of that makes me any kind of an expert because I'm surely not. I just always do my homework before I make a move and the kind and knowledgeable people on this site have helped me a great deal.

Thank You folks

And by the way Floyd, I really like that wood interior in your Scamp. It gives it a warm cabin look. I think I may go that direction. Do you know if the wood really adds weight. I'm thinking it must.

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with that said, lets close this thread.
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I'd like to set a couple of things straight...

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Hi, Lynn! Welcome to FiberglassRV.com! Please don't take it personally - we are glad you're here, and all wish you well in your quest for a trailer/rig that suits your camping style.

Since you are new here, you may not be aware of the several knock-down, drag-outs that we've recently refereed, pertaining to the very question you asked: about the differences in North American and European tow ratings. Many of us have strong feelings about the issue, and we take turns being unable to discuss it in a civil manner. This is why we collectively bristle when the subject comes up again. It's nobody's fault, really; it's just the nature of online discussions that folks feel strongly about.

Feel free to utilize the private messaging (PM) function if you care to ask specific questions of particular members ... We are most of the time a very friendly and helpful bunch of people. We just have a couple of discussion roadblocks. (Guns is the other one... besides religion and politics, of course!)

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