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Old 12-03-2013, 10:59 PM   #15
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I'm guessing they allow only recent units to avoid old, beat-up trailers.
You hit the nail right on the head. Although a couple of years ago I stopped at an RV Resort in Las Vegas with my Vintage stick-built trailer (1956). They also told me my trailer was to old. I told them it was fully restored and probably looked better than half the stuff they had in the park. Just go out and take a look at it and then tell me I can't stay here because I'm to old. Well they went out and looked at it up close (they weren't even interested in seeing the inside). And guess what, they let me in. Not only that but I went into the office the next afternoon and extended another night. Durning the day that I was there I gave more tours of the trailer that I have with my teardrop.



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..........."Resort" because some of the people there can be snooty.
All trailer/RV groups have snobs. I use to think that only Air Streamers were snobs but we have a few 'egg' owners that are also snobs. Mainly those with new eggs (at least here in California).


P.S. When making reservations at an RV park, I do stay away from those that have an age restriction. But if I drive up with no reservation and unaware of their age restriction, I ask them to look at the trailer, then make the decision.
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Old 12-04-2013, 05:41 AM   #16
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What Kevin has not said is that he sent the campground a perfect reply. He said that he was sorry they would not take us particularly when their website did not include the information that old campers are excluded and that we found another spot. He sent them a picture of our camper and signed the reply with Dr Kevin and Dr. Cindy (We both have our doctorates.).

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PS: They probably did not read it.
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Old 12-04-2013, 07:52 PM   #17
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But I can imagine how the "serious" Class A types would want to keep the "riffraff" out of their regular domains.

Having owned a rv park, I can tell you that was not and is not the reason for most places to have a age restriction. I owned the type of park much like the one you had the pleasure to stay at. Even the majority of our million dollar rig owners were kind wonderful people. Of course there are always a jerk in every crowd. But again we did not have a age restriction rule to keep out older trailer/rv owners. Hell, I was known for sticking a pop up or two in between rows of million dollar rigs!

Does snooty attitudes exist? Of course!

But I (as well as all the park/campground owners I know) had the rule to protect the 99% of my guest who are not "riffraff". You so don't want to know the riffraff types that try and stay/move into a campground/rvpark. Meth/Crack cookers are just an example of some "riffraff" the age restriction can and does weed out.

The people we sold our park to, didn't extend the rule the first summer they had the park and guess what? It cost them big time, not only in site rent (months of site rent) , but court cost (to evict) then tow fee's when the "riffraff" bailed and left the crappy trailers/rv's behind. And that is not even taking into account the comfort level of any and all other guest in the park. Who knows how many guest didn't return due to not feeling comfortable due to a few "riffraff" guest?

There is no good way to weed out the undesirables, so most parks just went with the age rule. But I will have to say, I see that rule changing, as the industry has changed drastically and people are not buying 200 plus thousand dollar rv's right and left anymore. But seriously, I as a rv'er appreciate the campgrounds and parks trying to keep some control over who and what I am camping next to.
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Old 12-04-2013, 08:45 PM   #18
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We are now in a campground that is mostly occupied by big motorhomes and 5th wheel campers, most of us here for the winter. We have never encountered anyone "snooty" here, that's just an expression I picked up from another camping couple who claim to have camped with such people at a vintage rally. The best part of this place is that one of the first trailers that is visible when entering the campground is occupied by a couple that are state police officers, and they bring the patrol car home with them! No meth labs here. Maybe we are labeled as "hillbillies" for being in such a small camper, probably rightly so, but we all get along great here. So far we haven't been called Yankee Snowbirds, we are called "Winter Guests".
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:50 PM   #19
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Having owned a rv park, I can tell you that was not and is not the reason for most places to have a age restriction. I owned the type of park much like the one you had the pleasure to stay at. Even the majority of our million dollar rig owners were kind wonderful people. Of course there are always a jerk in every crowd. But again we did not have a age restriction rule to keep out older trailer/rv owners. Hell, I was known for sticking a pop up or two in between rows of million dollar rigs!

Does snooty attitudes exist? Of course!

But I (as well as all the park/campground owners I know) had the rule to protect the 99% of my guest who are not "riffraff". You so don't want to know the riffraff types that try and stay/move into a campground/rvpark. Meth/Crack cookers are just an example of some "riffraff" the age restriction can and does weed out.

The people we sold our park to, didn't extend the rule the first summer they had the park and guess what? It cost them big time, not only in site rent (months of site rent) , but court cost (to evict) then tow fee's when the "riffraff" bailed and left the crappy trailers/rv's behind. And that is not even taking into account the comfort level of any and all other guest in the park. Who knows how many guest didn't return due to not feeling comfortable due to a few "riffraff" guest?

There is no good way to weed out the undesirables, so most parks just went with the age rule. But I will have to say, I see that rule changing, as the industry has changed drastically and people are not buying 200 plus thousand dollar rv's right and left anymore. But seriously, I as a rv'er appreciate the campgrounds and parks trying to keep some control over who and what I am camping next to.
We stayed in a nice state park (picture below)... It was a nice place until two brand new toy haulers moved in about four sites down and across the street from one another. They immediately set up and the cacophony and chaos ensued.They let the dogs and kids out, opened a case of beer and cranked up the tunes. The adults all gathered in the middle of the street and proceeded to ignore the kids and dogs while they partied at the top of their lungs. They wouldn't even acknowledge pedestrian or automotive traffic who had to walk or drive around them on the grass, hoping someone there might pay enough attention to gang way.

The kid ruckus started to dial down about 9PM,the adult noise and loud tunes mitigated a bit around 10PM and tapered off...until by sometime after midnight, all that was really left was the constant yeowling of the dogs who apparently weren't very fond of each other. The respite lasted until about 7AM...We left around nine, rested and content, due to our ability to ignore the "riffraff".

The point of all of this is to say that "riffraff" comes in all social strata, and with a 10 year loan and a home equity line of credit, many of them can take possession of the very latest camping gear.

There must be other ways to run a campground, like good judgement and enforcement of reasonable rules which don't include the build date of the people or the vehicles they drive or tow.

I drive an old truck and intend to keep it. I have a Scamp 13 which will go into my estate after I'm gone. So how does that make me a bad neighbor?
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:17 PM   #20
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I think us old timers are using an old term (riffraff)
but actually mean "undesireables"
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:57 PM   #21
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I'm not THAT old!

Urban Dictionary: riffraff
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Old 12-04-2013, 11:35 PM   #22
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The kid ruckus


The point of all of this is to say that "riffraff" comes in all social strata, and with a 10 year loan and a home equity line of credit, many of them can take possession of the very latest camping gear.

There must be other ways to run a campground, like good judgement and enforcement of reasonable rules which don't include the build date of the people or the vehicles they drive or tow.

I drive an old truck and intend to keep it. I have a Scamp 13 which will go into my estate after I'm gone. So how does that make me a bad neighbor?

"Kid ruckus", Try having kids with head lamps at night running through sites! It's not "riffraff" it's bad parenting!

"Social strata", Has nothing to do with whether someone is "riffraff" or not! Just my opinion.... But one that has lead me to be able to enjoy people no matter what their "social strata" is. basically all my life.


"Other ways to run a campground", Yes there is, I did state I had the rule, but I didn't state that it was a back pocket protection that I used the discretion whether to honor the rule or not. I guess I wasn't clear on that point. Our park as well as all campground/park owners I personally know, use the rule just as I did. It's stated, but enforced only when needed! Now that being said, there are parks/campgrounds/resorts that adhere to the rule. But frankly that is their business and if that is the way they want to run it, so be it. I will suggest asking when that rule comes up! Having owned a older rv I found that the couple times that rule popped up, they inspected our rv and allowed us in. Again, are their resorts that won't allow older than 10 years, yes! But they own it, they can make the rules!

"The year of" , nor the type of vehicle someone is traveling in has no bearing on whether they are a bad neighbor! As I said, I was known for putting a pop up camper/campers right along side million dollar buses! So your trying to use a argument with me that I have already stated didn't make a difference when it came to guest in our park. As well as I stated, I see the rule changing, as the industry has changed.


But in the end, it doesn't matter what your driving, pulling, traveling in. It doesn't matter if you have doctorates, masters or zillions of dollars. When a business has a rule to run by, it's their business to do so. We as customers have the right not to go there, well not as customers with 10 year or older rigs in this case. But you get what I am trying to say.




CindyL, Unfortunately as for the rating people knowing about age discrimination, seriously doubt they give a rats patootie! Sorry! I have zero respect for the "rating" people! For them it's all about advertising dollars, nothing more! Understand I had a fabulous rating, but I got their number first time I met them. Good Sam, Woodall's, Trailer life, Camping World all under one corporate company. And the pitiful part, they won't work with each other! Neither know's what the other is doing. Seriously screwed up! Just my opinion but it's what I saw......
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Old 12-05-2013, 05:24 AM   #23
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I looked up reviews on this campground on Yelp. Not good, although I feel that people often only use services like Yelp if they are upset. In any case, after reading it, I am glad we were excluded.
Guess in the future, we need to look beyond Good Sam.

One thing to notice here. The rule is not on the website, and it should be.

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I'd post a negative review here Campground Reviews and RV Park Reviews
if enough people take the effort to report their satisfaction or dissatisfaction, the system will work. the nice cg's will prosper and the not so nice one's will perish.
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:21 AM   #25
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Since I started this thread, I thought I would add a final note. I really have no problem with private campgrounds upholding their own policies and rules. If they choose to only have certain types of rigs or people, that is fine. I would just like to know this upfront when I'm shopping around. I don't see why a campground wouldn't say on the website that they only accept rigs that are newer. Then I wouldn't bother looking any further. This is true of hotels/motels that accept pets, too. If you don't want cats, say it upfront rather than saying you are pet friendly, implying you accept various types of pets. OK, I'm done for today!
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:41 AM   #26
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"Social strata", Has nothing to do with whether someone is "riffraff" or not! Just my opinion.... But one that has lead me to be able to enjoy people no matter what their "social strata" is. basically all my life. ......
That's pretty much exactly what I said...
"The point of all of this is to say that "riffraff" comes in all social strata."

Along the same line, I have seen RV Parks which which have minimum size requirements.

As for ..."But they own it, they can make the rules! " That's a real laugh in today's America!
I do agree that good management requires the authority to use good judgement and I lament it's erosion in recent decades.



Sometimes you even find common sense and good management at public facilities...
Below is a photo of our 13 Scamp at Stone Mountain Park GA.
After some friendly discussion we were allowed to camp in this spot which was in a section reserved for popups. The rationale for the restriction was that the sites were small and the access roads were tight,...
One glance at Eggy-Sue obviated the rule!
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This campground also does not accept pop-ups, according to reviews. One of the reviews said that they were turned away because of that rule, even though their pop-up was brand new. Several other comments indicated rules that were unevenly enforced. We would have been on the receiving end of little slips of paper indicating several violations of other regulations that reviews of this campground mentioned, i.e coolers left where they could be seen, screen houses allowed for some but not others. Best we are not going there.

Policies should be posted.

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One more point, a travel trailer age restriction could be detrimental to repeat business...

Wife sez: "Hey sweety...I really like this place, and we've been there several times, let's go back this year."
Husband sez: No can do, Hon ...the number on our trailer title is too small.
Better find another campground.
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