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Old 07-23-2017, 02:56 AM   #1
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OK folks, want to pick your brains a bit. I can see the difference in weight between the 16 and 17 which is a fair amount. But as I've never had the chance to walk through the 16 and I have a 17, I really don't see any real interior difference at least on paper. Where is the difference in the real world layout and use to living inside the two? I only looked for a 17 because of the flat door after reading of so many problems with the curved doors sealing no matter which make. FYI, I come from a long line of sticks. But back to my main thought. Wouldn't a 16 with the AC on the roof, pretty much over the axle, make better sence than in the front wall for interior storage space lost and trailer cooling? The 16 back in the mid 90s had a flat door. Anyway, just a thought as the overall weight, especially on the tongue, would open it up a lot of folks to be able to tow it.
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Old 07-23-2017, 06:28 AM   #2
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The main dinette bed in the 16'er is only 45" wide (same as most standard Scamps, a carry-over from the original Boler design) versus 54" in the 17'er. That accounts for the lion's share of the length difference and also for the overwhelming popularity of the 17'er. The 16'er is 5'10" tall inside (another carry-over), with a raised floor under the rear dinette. The rear window is smaller and doesn't open. I've never seen a 16'er with a flat door.

A/C in the front cabinet is quieter, less vibration, cheaper, preserves limited headroom, and enables the 16'er (without raised suspension) to fit in an 8' garage. Roof mount, of course, cools better due to better air flow both inside and outside. Weight distribution is a toss-up. Weight way up high isn't good either.

From my observation, Casita has little interest in selling 16'ers and consequently little interest in updating the design. Towing weight is the main reason they still sell a few.
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Old 07-27-2017, 05:33 PM   #3
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OK folks, want to pick your brains a bit. I can see the difference in weight between the 16 and 17 which is a fair amount. But as I've never had the chance to walk through the 16 and I have a 17, I really don't see any real interior difference at least on paper. Where is the difference in the real world layout and use to living inside the two? I only looked for a 17 because of the flat door after reading of so many problems with the curved doors sealing no matter which make. FYI, I come from a long line of sticks. But back to my main thought. Wouldn't a 16 with the AC on the roof, pretty much over the axle, make better sence than in the front wall for interior storage space lost and trailer cooling? The 16 back in the mid 90s had a flat door. Anyway, just a thought as the overall weight, especially on the tongue, would open it up a lot of folks to be able to tow it.


I remember a friend of mine who had one telling me that the 16 foot ceiling has a dome on it for extra room, and the 17 doesn't. Probably why you don't put in the air-conditioner on the 16.
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I remember a friend of mine who had one telling me that the 16 foot ceiling has a dome on it for extra room, and the 17 doesn't. Probably why you don't put in the air-conditioner on the 16.
The "dome," or trolley roof, as it's usually called, is actually more pronounced on the 17'er than the 16'er, creating more headroom. It is really more of a bump-up than a dome, with a gentle arch from front to back. It also adds strength to the roof (kind of like the ribs that run across the roof of most vans and SUVs).

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Old 07-27-2017, 09:52 PM   #5
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"I remember a friend of mine who had one telling me that the 16 foot ceiling has a dome on it for extra room, and the 17 doesn't. Probably why you don't put in the air-conditioner on the 16."

That is not correct...

The 16 footer doesn't have the same headroom, nor the "dome" you mention. The 17 footer does. I'm 6' 2" tall, and the 16 footer only has about 5' 8" of "headroom." My 17 footer has enough headroom, (6' 2") for me to stand upright and not have to play "Quasimodo" inside.

And the roof on the 17 footers has built-in extra reinforcement in the roof to support the weight of the roof mounted A/C that the 16 footer doesn't have, which is why they don't mount the A/C unit on the roof of the 16 footers.
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:25 PM   #6
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Good explanation Jon. I had a neighbor that had a '95 with the flat square cornered door. I called Casita to find out the years that had them. The guy I talked to remembered them but couldn't tell me the years. MMMM, any one want to bet that Donna D doesn't have that info bookmarked ?
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Early 17'ers had a flat, square-cornered door, which was later upgraded to a flat, radius-cornered door. Couldn't find a 1995 with pictures, but here's an old ad for a 1996 with the square door:
SOLD: 1996 17FT Casita SD very clean, $7950


Pretty sure 16'ers have always had a curved door. Here's one ad for a 1995 Casita 16:
SOLD 1995 16' Casita Spirit Deluxe, $6,000
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...the roof on the 17 footers has built-in extra reinforcement in the roof to support the weight of the roof mounted A/C that the 16 footer doesn't have, which is why they don't mount the A/C unit on the roof of the 16 footers.
...which is a rather unsatisfying explanation, since they could add the reinforcement, just like Scamp did. Of course, with headroom already under 6', and roof A/C hanging down another inch or two...

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On the other hand, you can still park a Casita 16 with A/C and standard suspension in an 8' garage, which can't be said for a Scamp 16 or Casita 17 with roof A/C.
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The 16 has 5’10” height in the center of the aisle, the 17 has over 6’. I’m pretty much exactly 5’10’ tall. I can just stand up normally in my stocking feet. My head brushes the carpeting in the morning so when I exit the trailer I usually have a bad case of static electricity hair. The 16 has a slightly wider center aisle (a couple of inches which we actually measured one time when the topic came up at a rally) as the refrigerator is not as deep. It doesn’t have a freezer either and the cubic feet of the fridge interior is less. The narrower bed in the 16 has already been mentioned.
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in addition to the above mentioned differences, the 16ft casita does not have a screen door, the 17ft does. the tank capacities are also larger on the 17ft. if memory serves. dry weight of 17ft is approximately 300lbs more than the 16ft.
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Old 07-29-2017, 06:16 PM   #11
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I believe the refrig is smaller in the 16
But i ve never been in one to verify
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