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Old 08-15-2014, 09:37 AM   #85
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Trying to decide whether to do today or not with scamps rubber d moulding. Awfully cool here in WNY today. Worried that adhesive might not come off so easily unless I wait for a hot day, which might not come given this summer's cooler than normal temps....
Got electricity and a blow dryer? Can really help getting adhesive things off to direct some heat at them. That and WD40 but the prep clean up is a little more critical if you have been cleaning with WD40 first.
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Old 08-15-2014, 09:46 AM   #86
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Blocking is placed below a window to secure a seat or bench or cabinet. The window leaks , water runs down the inside of the wall and follows the screws back into the blocking causing rot or swelling or the screw to pull out . There has been many posts on this website about window leaks leading to the rotting of the OSB flooring from the inside . The screws do not have to penetrate the outer shell ! I am not questioning the wisdom of Escape's method for mounting interior components but to say that Rivets are a poor means of fastening equipment and glued in OSB blocks are a foolproof method is not true
Nothing in life is foolproof. My Casita had wooden blocking below the windows, not rivets. I was addressing only the rivets used above the beltline and in particular those on the roof. Rivets through holes are simply a less expensive means of mass production. Based on 30+ years of mechanical engineering experience, I just prefer not to have to deal with rivets anymore. Been there!
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Old 08-15-2014, 09:48 AM   #87
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Got electricity and a blow dryer? Can really help getting adhesive things off to direct some heat at them. That and WD40 but the prep clean up is a little more critical if you have been cleaning with WD40 first.
Acetone (in paint dept) will remove practically any adhesive residue used on rubber/polymer seals. Also WD40 residue.

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Old 08-15-2014, 09:59 AM   #88
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Norm just posted a different thread regarding the discovery of a Viking ship's remnants on the Mississippi River in TN. USA: Viking Ship Discovered Near Mississippi River¬*|¬*
Something in that article caught my eye: the ship was "...clinker built, which means the overlapping of planks riveted together."

On the one hand, rivets got them all the way across the ocean.
On the other hand, rivets didn't get them back home!
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Old 08-15-2014, 10:41 AM   #89
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Rivets do leak, no doubt. As we all know, water will find it's own way if it wants to. Rotting floors? Yeah, windows and vents.

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I admire and respect you immensely Floyd and to all be known here you have graciously given me your time and support in numerous occasions.

You are a good man! But I have replaced many rivets already, one leaking. Ok maybe the trailer leaked through the hole, not the rivet.

I think the world of you and I still love my scamp!


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Does anyone know what the current price of a Scamp 13' standard with no options is ? At one time it was the cheapest fiberglass camper you could buy new. Raz
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:27 AM   #92
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I admire and respect you immensely Floyd and to all be known here you have graciously given me your time and support in numerous occasions.

You are a good man! But I have replaced many rivets already, one leaking. Ok maybe the trailer leaked through the hole, not the rivet.

I think the world of you and I still love my scamp!


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You are right that a wallowed out hole or a broken rivet can result in a leak.
As my favorite lyric poet once said.....
"Everything put together, sooner or later falls apart."

Considering the number of 30-40 year old riveted fiberglass RVs still extant... the jury has long since returned a verdict!

My comments are not directed at you personally, but at the premise...
The general argument, at its root, is not based on the merits.

As with all strawman arguments....
The antagonist always picks out a perceived difference, however insignificant, to isolate and reject the opposition, when the initial obfuscation subsides the trivialities become irrelevant.
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Spoken like a true Vulcan, Floyd! I can just picture Spock saying something like that.
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I always liked "Live Long and Prosper"

Probably so he could buy his own Starship. The ultimate RV that never gets a flat tire!

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Starships,? .....viking ships?.......rivets? Wasn't this scamp vs Casita. Don't they both have rivets?????? Maybe we could discuss growing fingerling potatoes. Specifically Russian banana .
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LOL......guess we exhausted relevant thoughts and wandered off into hyperspace.
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Old 08-15-2014, 06:57 PM   #97
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New old (2005) Casita Patriot owner, here. Never seen a scamp, but I love my Patriot!

I have the front bathroom, and from looking at the pics of the 16' scamp, my bathroom is alot bigger and easier to use.
Plus, from reading all of the casita forums, I don't hear about leaks much. There has to be a problem like an owner-drilled hole to cause a leak.

I also don't like the drapes in the scamp. I think they close in the space. I like my mini blinds. They hug the wall and I can turn them for whatever sun/shade/privacy I want.

I prefer the casita fiberglass to the wood in the scamp. It's simpler and more relaxing than all that wood grain going this way and that. I don't mind the imitation wood doors, either, They clean up well.
I have no problem with my door and windows. Basically, the complaints I hear on casitas aren't interior: They're mostly about the grey and black holding tanks. The plumbing doesn't allow all of the water to drain, so many put in a new release valve, and they also do what's called a valvectomy on the p trap under the shower. Most of the mods on the casitas are on plumbing underneath, like adding ventilation so the water moves in and out more easily and allows the tanks to really fill up.

I don't know if the scamps with full plumbing have these same issues, or not. It's possible they use the same tank manufacturers. I don't know.

I don't know the price differences. I assume the scamps are less.

Mine rolls down the road beautifully, with no swaying. She's alot of fun!
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Sue, that's really all that counts. As long as the fun outweighs any other issues, life is good!

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