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Old 01-07-2017, 08:41 PM   #15
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I'll second that, Floyd!

Casita appears to be doing the same- concentrating on their core market. I'd guess a similar percentage of Casitas are 17'ers, maybe even higher. If they expand their product line, any new designs should evolve from the 17' model.

Dean, I can see a remote possibility of a 15' Casita evolving from the 17' model replacing the 16'er and using Liberty components, with a 54" or 60" transverse bed. If the loaded weight could be kept under 3000 pounds and the tongue weight under 325 pounds, it would fill a slot in their lineup for a trailer that can be pulled by a mid-sized SUV with a 3500/350 tow rating. But whether it would be profitable or not is another question. Realistically, it's cheaper just to let the 16' soldier onů

I can certainly envision the possibility of a larger model, though.
I can imagine a larger Casita... maybe a 19.
Casita may feel threatened by Escape and a 19 would be something that suits the market they are after.
The real difference is that Casita has discouraged the sale of their 13 and their 16 for some years now. They are proud of the 17, and for pretty good reasons.

Scamp has never tried to push their customers toward any particular model and they are confident enough not to feel intimidated by their competition and for pretty good reasons. They still sell all they can build.
While the general market seems to be trending larger, Scamp has a solid audience for their 13.
In fact it is pretty clear that while the 13 holds a solid demand which will remain solid, its the tweeners which are loosing market share to their larger siblings and cousins.

The Scamp13 reminds me of the Mustang which seems to appeal to generation after generation, keeping its character, changing only where necessary and oblivious as a world of change swirls around it.
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:01 AM   #16
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An easier way to create interior space is by making a wider trailer body. In molded fiberglass, only Bigfoot makes trailers that are 8+ feet wide. All the others are around 6 1/2 feet wide. It is amazing how much perception of spaciousness this creates. When Bigfoot went out of business for a couple of years, I was seriously looking at Escape and Oliver as possible replacements. But I was disappointed that they were offering longer models, but not wider. On the down side, of course, is the increase in wind drag and weight is precisely what most FGRV owners want to avoid.
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:18 AM   #17
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Escape does add both height and width as length increases. The 17' is 6'8" wide, the 19' is 7'0" wide, and the 21' is 7'4" wide.

I think, aesthetically, it's easier to add width to a boxier shape, like Bigfoot and Escape, than a rounded shape, like Scamp and Casita. I recall Airstream's wide body series. More space... but they just looked misproportioned, even ugly. The market ultimately rejected them (as it also rejected Airstream slide-outs).

If Casita were to introduce a longer trailer, a few more inches of width and height would be welcome, and probably wouldn't detract greatly from the exterior proportions. But from an engineering and production standpoint, it's probably easier and cheaper just to stretch the 17'.

I myself don't mind the railway car corridor vibe of long, narrow trailers- I love trains!- and for me the "perception of spaciousness" is best accomplished with windows. My wife would probably disagree, though...
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:22 AM   #18
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To build a fiberglass trailer with slide outs would require a redesigned and "engineered" trailer From what I've seen / read / heard none of the FG trailer manufacturers have an engineering dept , staffed with a competent trained engineers. The present day FG trailers appear to be more like "Seat of your Pants , Backyard Engineering " from the 60's & 70's.
I can't imagine any of the FG trailer manufacturers spending the time and capital to develope a trailer with slide outs when the FG trailer market is so small and limited .
I wish they would make a wider FG trailer but that would only lead to endless threads on how to add towing mirrors to someone's Chevy Cruz or Ford Focus , so never mind.
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Old 01-18-2017, 02:56 PM   #19
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Exactly! A poor man's Oliverů

While they're at it, dump the old-school 16'er and roll out a modern 15'er with more height, a bigger bed and bathroom-or-bunks in front, perhaps taking some cues from Parkliner.

Both could be stretched or chopped versions of the 17' design, though adding a little width and height in a 21'er would be nice. Make a clean break from the Boler heritage.

Psstů don't tell Scamp...
Streach, highten and widen even more and add a hot tub and wood burning stove.
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Old 01-18-2017, 03:18 PM   #20
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Have you ever thought about trying to get inside a Scamp/Casita with the slideout retracted??? Best hope it doesnt fail when you get to a campground.

I'm not without my grievances on Scamps/Casitas, but I WILL hand them this on their "design"-
Longevity and simplicity= survival. That my friends has been proven.
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They had best stay away from slide outs. They can be a maintenance nightmare. That is one reason we wanted a fiberglass shell. Simple design and no slide outs. On the road in 10 minutes if still hooked to tow.


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