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Gene Masse · 10-13-2012, 05:00 AM

No doubt some of us have firearms that we take along on trips for personal protection. If you have a conceal carry permit to go with that you need to know which states have reciprocity with yours. If you don't know it you can get a Utah permit even though you aren't a citizen of Utah. Their permit is recognized by the most states. I believe there are a couple others like that also. If you wonder what states recognize yours here is a source for that.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/tra...r&utm_content=

kirkman · 10-13-2012, 05:53 AM

Thanks that will come in handy.

h.mike · 10-13-2012, 06:23 AM

I believe that with a Utah permit 33 states either will recognize it or have reciprocal agreements. Florida only accepts it if you are a Utah resident. But, Florida permits are available also.

h.mike · 10-13-2012, 06:26 AM

TO Kirkman from NY: To get a Utah permit you must take a short four hour course but ,it is not necessary to have a permit from your home State. Just a thought for people living in difficult places.

Darwin Maring · 10-13-2012, 08:20 AM

Travelers Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States
Gunlaws for the 50 States

Have it with you so you can research and show the local enforcer should he/she not know the law.

kirkman · 10-13-2012, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by h.mike

TO Kirkman from NY: To get a Utah permit you must take a short four hour course but ,it is not necessary to have a permit from your home State. Just a thought for people living in difficult places.

Thanks h.mike,
I already have permits in NY and Pa. Is a handy web sight to know who lets you carry!

Roger Kimble · 10-13-2012, 11:15 AM

Thanks, good for the members to know.

Ray N · 10-14-2012, 05:59 PM

An interesting little note: Florida's permit is for concealed "weapons." This includes stun guns, billy clubs, and knives in addition to firearms. Not good for these weapons in states with reciprocity where their permits are only for firearms, however.

Hazel in Sk · 10-14-2012, 07:37 PM

I have never packed any type of firearm to go camping. Don't intend to either. Those thinking of entering Canada need to do some checking first - I think we have some laws on that topic - I'm not familiar with them but have seen notices stating they have to be locked in our nearby Provincial Park.

**Frederick L. Simson** · 10-14-2012, 09:26 PM

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fusedlight · 10-15-2012, 10:27 AM

Definitely check Canadian laws... I know I get queried about firearms when I cross the border.

One thing to make sure of (and this should go without saying!) that your firearms are well secured when in your trailer. Some of the doors (most?) aren't exactly what I'd call "secure". A weapon in a drawer is not secure even if the trailer door is locked.

Carol H · 10-15-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fusedlight

Definitely check Canadian laws... I know I get queried about firearms when I cross the border. .

Yup you sure will! Canada has 3 levels of classifications when it comes to weapons. Restricted, Non restricted and Prohibited.

Just some of the rules are:

You would need to fill out an Approval of the Non-Resident Firearms Declaration in triplicate if you want to bring a Non restricted shoot gun or hunting rife into Canada and it will need to be stored correctly as well. It needs to be signed at the border and in front of border officials.

Some of the Restricted firearms include handguns with a barrel over 4", pepper spray and mace. A restricted firearm may be brought into Canada, but an Authorization to Transport (ATT) permit must also be obtained in advance from a Provincial or Territorial Chief Firearms Officer. The ATT will not be issued for hunting or self-protection purposes.

Prohibited firearms are not allowed in at all and they include fully automatic, converted automatics, assault-type weapons and handguns with a barrel length less than 105mm (4 inches), replicas of such weapons and certain knives.

Border officials will seize any firearms from persons crossing the border who deny having them in their possession - once seized they are not returned. The gun owner is not given the option to withdraw the request to enter Canada and return to the U.S. in order to keep possession of the prohibited firearm.

As indicated thats just some of the regulations so your best to read up on all the rules before going to the border.

Or just leave the firearms at home or use a commercial storage facility on the US side of the border to store them while you travel in Canada. Canadian's will thank you for doing that!

steve dunham · 10-15-2012, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Carol H

Yup you sure will! Canada has 3 levels of classifications when it comes to weapons. Restricted, Non restricted and Prohibited.

Just some of the rules are:

You would need to fill out an Approval of the Non-Resident Firearms Declaration in triplicate if you want to bring a Non restricted shoot gun or hunting rife into Canada and it will need to be stored correctly as well. It needs to be signed at the border and in front of border officials.

Some of the Restricted firearms include handguns with a barrel over 4", pepper spray and mace. A restricted firearm may be brought into Canada, but an Authorization to Transport (ATT) permit must also be obtained in advance from a Provincial or Territorial Chief Firearms Officer. The ATT will not be issued for hunting or self-protection purposes.

Prohibited firearms are not allowed in at all and they include fully automatic, converted automatics, assault-type weapons and handguns with a barrel length less than 105mm (4 inches), replicas of such weapons and certain knives.

Border officials will seize any firearms from persons crossing the border who deny having them in their possession - once seized they are not returned. The gun owner is not given the option to withdraw the request to enter Canada and return to the U.S. in order to keep possession of the prohibited firearm.

As indicated thats just some of the regulations so your best to read up on all the rules before going to the border.

Or just leave the firearms at home or use a commercial storage facility on the US side of the border to store them while you travel in Canada. Canadian's will thank you for doing that!

Canada is also far ahead of the USA in laws concerning driving under the influence of alcohol . Every time I enter Canada I am asked if I have a DWI conviction which is a felony in Canada and prevents you from entering the country. In Wisconsin where I live your first DWI is a misdemeanor and considered the same as a parking ticket . My friends wife just got convicted of her 4th DWI in Wisconsin and she did no jail time , paid a small fine and went to a short dry out class . A recent survey made by the State of Wisconsin in my area showed one third of the area residents on a Friday or Saturday night are driving under the influence. I would feel a lot safer if the drunks were off the roads and unfortunately a firearm is no protection from a drunk driver

Carol H · 10-15-2012, 01:45 PM

Steve, your right on re the DUI - especially when visiting BC which has the toughest laws in the country. For years a DUI resulted in automatic criminal record but a few years ago they introduced a new Immediate Roadside Prohibitions - which if you go along with the findings of the police at the Road side no questions asked you can avoid the criminal courts - assuming you have never out right failed a test previously.

At the roadside if a peace officer suspects you are impaired they can request you take a breath test. You can take two tests with different machines if you wish.

If the device reads WARN Your breath sample is 0.05 to 0.08 police will:

Seize your driver’s licence
Issue you a 'Notice of Prohibition' which will start immediately – removing your driving privileges – the length of which depends on prior IRP warning convictions (if any)
3-day driving prohibition if it is the first time caught in the warn range;
7-day driving prohibition if it is the second time caught in the warn range within five years; or
30-day driving prohibition if it is the third time caught in the warn range within five years.
Vehicle impoundment is discretionary for 3 and 7 day prohibitions. Vehicle 30 day impoundment is mandatory for 30 or 90-day. Participation in the Ignition Interlock and Responsible Driver Program are required for 30 and 90-day prohibitions. In addition, there are monetary penalties under the warning system ranging from $600 for the 3 day warning to about $4000 for the 3rd time warning.

If the ASD reads FAIL over 0.08, or if you refuse to provide a breath sample, police will:
Seize your driver’s licence & car
Issue you a 'Notice of Prohibition' which will start immediately – removing your driving privileges for 90 days
Alternatively, you may be served an Administrative Driving Prohibition, and charged criminally under the Criminal Code of Canada for Impaired Driving.
upon your 1st Conviction — a 1-3 year driving prohibition (plus minimum $1000 penalty)
upon your 2nd Conviction — a 2-5 year driving prohibition (plus minimum 30 days imprisonment)
upon your 3rd Conviction — a minimum 3 year to-lifetime driving prohibition (plus minimum 120 days imprisonment)

Bottom line best not to have more than one beer or one glass of wine before driving a car in BC.

Eddie Longest · 10-15-2012, 01:59 PM

I think it was always the rule but since the Ft. Hood incident when entering bases with my camper they always ask if I have a weapon. If you do, you have to turn it in to security before you enter the base. They will return it to you when you leave.
Eddie

floyd · 10-15-2012, 02:13 PM

Doesn't concealed carry apply only to firearms on your person and not in plain sight? Surely locked in the trunk of your car wouldn't apply?
But then in IllAnnoy it was against the law to build-in any secret compartment into your vehicle. In Seattle I've heard it's against the law to possess a gas mask.
The rule of thumb for all you non-lawyer types is...If it ain't taxed, it must be illegal!

Can you carry a toolbox or a jack handle when crossing the border? I've heard Macgyver could kill you with a paperclip, and styrofoam cups mixed with gasoline makes a nice "napalm".

charlsara · 10-15-2012, 07:48 PM

Wow. I have learned a lot about Canada. I went there once and it is beautiful. Under the circumstances I don't think I will be going back.

honda03842 · 10-15-2012, 08:07 PM

We crossed the border once ata small crossing in northern Montana. Four Canadian Border patrol members came out and seperated Ginny and I asking if we had a gun, suggesting that they had the means to find guns. They spoke to us seperately and simultaneously.

One of the crossing people asked Ginny how she was going to protect herself in Canada.

Clever Ginny said she didn't know she needed to protect herself from Canadians.

That broke them up and we were on our way.

**Jim Bennett** · 10-16-2012, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by charlsara

Wow. I have learned a lot about Canada. I went there once and it is beautiful. Under the circumstances I don't think I will be going back.

Not sure what you have heard, but circumstances in Canada are very good right now. No civil war, no major storms (can be cold in winter though), and no plagues. Lots of great places to visit, and some darn friendly folks about too.

Oh yeah, and we like beer.