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Old 08-11-2009, 07:27 PM   #15
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I just asked if anyone knew over on the EscapeForum... Reace and Tammy pop in to answer questions. I'll let everyone know when I find out.
GOT THE ANSWER, RIGHT FROM TAMMY:
"Hi All,

It is a closed cell foam. - High density.

Tammy"

And ... Escape gets the vinyl adhered to the foam for them by another company.
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Old 08-11-2009, 07:38 PM   #16
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Sweet! Thanks, Donna

I guess the next question is whether they do or would sell that "fabric" as a "part." It seems like there is a call for something along the lines of the vinyl-covered-Ensolite - people always seem to be asking about it.

Thanks again for checking on the closed vs. open celled foam - I love follow-up!

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Old 08-11-2009, 07:41 PM   #17
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Sweet! Thanks, Donna

I guess the next question is whether they do or would sell that "fabric" as a "part." It seems like there is a call for something along the lines of the vinyl-covered-Ensolite - people always seem to be asking about it.

Thanks again for checking on the closed vs. open celled foam - I love follow-up!

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Yes, Raya... I'm checking on the availability to buy the vinyl/foam through their parts department. I know plenty of non-Escape people are looking to buy replacements for poor worn out Ensolite. At this point, I don't know if Reace and Tammy want to put their effort into parts rather than the whole trailer. There again, I'll let everyone know what I find out.
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Old 08-11-2009, 07:54 PM   #18
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Donna, thanks for the research, and yes other would love to get our hands on that. I think it would work good for the 72 compact of mine. It need something.
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I'm checking on the availability to buy the vinyl/foam through their parts department. I know plenty of non-Escape people are looking to buy ...
I have fantasized about dragging my non-insulated Fiber Stream up to Canada so Reace & Tammy can install a proper interior!
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I'm just curious: What is it on the Oliver that gives structural strength to the floor? I come from the boating world, and a "solid" fiberglass deck would have to be very very thick in order to be firm and supportive. Usually the decks are fiberglass on each side with a thin layer of wood in the middle. This separates the "skins" and puts them in tension (like an I-beam) and results in rigid deck that's very light for how strong it is. But without the wood in the middle there would have to be a lot of cross beams to make things rigid (indeed, a few boats are built this way but they are typically heavier or the deck is a bit springy).

So if the Oliver doesn't have a core in the floor, do they get their strength and rigidity from a multitude of support beams? Or...? Maybe a foam core? The Oliver looks like a great trailer, and my curiosity is piqued

(And Heath, sorry about hijacking your thread with trailers over 16')

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Raya,

Oliver uses a 1/2-inch-thick plastic and fiber honeycomb to back up the fiberglass in key structural areas where additional strength is needed. They permeate this with resin and lay another layer of fiberglass to make what appears to me to be an amazingly strong structure that is still relatively light. I think that Oliver used this honeycomb to strengthen the floor. In addition, the floor rests on an aluminum box beam, running lengthwise, flanked by the freshwater and graywater tanks, which are flush with the top of the beam. The result is a very strong floor, which we have not found to deflect at all, even with five adults standing on the floor.

I can confirm your impression that the Oliver is a great trailer. I, too, am familiar with the fiberglass boating world, and I also once worked in quality control in a fiberglass molding factory. The Oliver is well thought out and beautifully made, and the fit and finish in the construction are first rate. We really love it.

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Old 08-11-2009, 10:34 PM   #21
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Thanks Steve, that makes sense now. Core makes for a nice, light, stiff structure (as you obviously know).

A number of boats are using the honeycombed type coring too now (e.g. Nida-Core), although balsa is still used a fair bit, and is a good coring material, IMO if it's not saturated by leaks.

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can one of you provide me a link to these Oliver trailers? thanks!
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http://www.olivertraveltrailers.com/
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Old 08-12-2009, 01:09 AM   #26
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Heath, Oliver has stopped production until sometime in 2010. So you might not get a quick response. Good Luck!
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can one of you provide me a link to these Oliver trailers? thanks!
Heath... on the left nav bar, under Resources is a bunch of really good info. This is in the Helpful-Links: All Current Trailer Brands. Except Bigfoot which is currently out of business and Oliver which has currently suspended production due to the economy.
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i discovered that late last night. i'm still nagigating the site here. thanks though!
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