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Old 08-30-2015, 09:33 AM   #57
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Just FYI - The hard foam in new Scamps has been discussed before.

Rather than using a separate mattress topper, that would need to be stored somewhere in our Scamp13 or tow vehicle when we convert to dinette mode, I simply replaced the foam with a very firm but more resilient foam that upholstery professionals typically use in RVs.

N36 foam in 2014 Scamp13 bed/dinette cushions = better sleep
New Scamp "hard cushion" remedies

I wish Scamp would use a little better grade of foam in new trailers. 😟

Replacing the foam cost about the same as purchasing a mattress topper and was just my solution. As always, YMMV! 😉

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Old 09-10-2015, 03:08 PM   #58
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Power Nap

I mentioned that the kids gave us 'Jawbones' that monitor our sleep, telling us f we meet our sleep goal, 8 hours and what the percentage of sleep is deep versus light sleep. I've been seeking to increase deep sleep and typically am now up to 4.5 hours per night of deep slee[.

Today I spent the rainy afternoon writing (after doing moving and storage - Ginny and I have the Geriatric Moving Company). I decided to take a Power Nap on the couch and selected Power Nap on my wrist band. I feel asleep and woke up 26 minutes later to the a vibrating wrist band. I laughed never having been woken in quite that way.

It turns out it lets you nap for 5% of your normal night time sleep goal. I had napped for 26 minutes. Of the 26 minutes 22 minutes were deep sleep, about 85% of the nap.

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Old 09-11-2015, 05:00 PM   #59
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Another Nap

Last night we stayed up to watch the Patriots/Steeler game and got to bed late, as a result we only had 6 1/2 hours of sleep compared to our goal of 8 hours. However I did get 4 hours of deep sleep. It seems that I'm getting better at deep sleep.

Part of my goal is to get 8 hours of sleep each day. It turns out to be a problem because when I go to sleep late, I still wake with the Sun. As a result I've been taking an afternoon nap. I thought the nap would last for 5% of my goal. The reality is the nap function seems to last for 5% only if you have already slept your goal.

Today's nap lasted for 1 hour and 13 minutes, only waking up because of a phone call. Amazingly one hour and 3 minutes were deep sleep.

It's interesting because I napped on the couch and in my mind it seemed I was conscious of Ginny's presence. I could hear sounds she was making and hear her talking softly to herself. Of course, I don't know how real my hearing was, was it minutes or the whole time.

One aspect of the naps is I'm sleeping on the couch, a very defined space. Does this encourage deep sleep because you can't really move around too much. Is this the reason we sleep so well in the little Scamp bed?

The Scamp bed is about two widths of the couch.... Does restricted space produce deep sleep.
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So Norm, how does the Jawbone know if you're in a deep sleep? Lack of movement or ? Since you felt like you were awake, maybe you were, and the jawbone was tricked somehow. I wear a jawbone too, and am convinced that it registers my tosses and turns in the bed as not deep sleep, but real sleep as deep sleep (less motions).
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Old 09-12-2015, 05:49 AM   #61
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Sheryl,

I looked into the techniques used by these devices to define the quality of sleep. Except for one model that reads pulse rate and motion, they all read simple motions, with motionless sleep defined as deep sleep, definitely not a true measure of deep sleep.

I wil say I feel more rested when I'm not tossing and turning so for me it is at least some measure until better measuring methods come along (they pack more into the wrist bands).

At the very minimum the device is encouraging me to sleep more hours each night and to grab an occasional nap when I stay up late. The fact is I'm registering more Sound Sleep (Jawbone description) feels better. Like the steps it's counting, what's measured gets done.
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Honda, which model of jawbone device do you use and is there a way to set up two accounts on a single device so that two people could trade off using it? It sounds like a neat device to have.


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We each have the UP24. I'm sure one individual could use it for a week and the other ifor a separate week. It reports it's results to a smart phone. I would guess that two smart phones could each have the app and see their individual weekly results. Our son and daughter-in-law each have one and are a team, seeing each other's results.

It's novel to see how you're doing. As well you end up setting goals for two important aspects of living, (walking) exercise and sleep. We've both become more conscious about setting goals and creating habits. In a sense it's almost humorous at our age, but better late than never, and it feels good as well. I'm forever impressed by the human body and it's ability to respond.
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We must be kids

Ginny and I have been having fun with our step and sleep monitors. One of the neat aspects is that it comes with a trainer/cheer leader who daily appears on our Smart Phones, praising little successes and improvements, As well the 'trainer' always has little suggestions, today a spinal twist exercise.

What get's measured gets done. Close to our step goal today so after supper we took a walk to push me over the top.. the coach will be happy in the morning.

Maybe we're regressing, having fun with a bracelet...
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Maybe we're regressing, having fun with a bracelet...
As long as you're moving AND challenging your limits, you're PROgressing!
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Late big meals

Yesterday was Ginny's sister's birthday and we went to a 'too expensive' restaurant with a marvelous ocean view and very good food as well. We had a filling dinner and returned for a three layer coconut birthday cake with ice cream, an excellent cake. (Cake and ice cream are a birthday requirement in Ginny's family along with singing the birthday song, regardless of your age.)

The aftermath, now that I'm into measuring sleep, is that neither of us had our now normal great sleep. It's obvious that eating big, rich meals late disturbs sleep. Probably no surprise, but previously it was not part of our conscious. Measuring sleep is changing our behavior.
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