Do you use a paper map? - Page 5 - Fiberglass RV


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 06-23-2013, 10:26 PM   #57
Senior Member
 
Name: Kathy
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19
Washington
Posts: 594
Registry
We use GPS, paper maps and road atlases. Of the three, I could most easily get by without the GPS. It's nice for finding a specific address in an unfamiliar city, but for trip planning and finding the best routes, the maps and road atlases are best, at least for us. Someone above mentioned the fact that a printed map or road atlas will tell you the elevation of mountain passes and that's often valuable information when towing a trailer. We also like the DeLorme Atlases for all the extra information they have, like showing campgrounds, boat launches, the site of old mines or ghost towns or other interesting places. And a map or atlas is invaluable for just day dreaming and route planning. We like to get off the beaten path. I also like the fact that if you can't get a satellite signal or cell phone reception a map is still there to guide you. I don't like to be too dependent on technology! Also, no one has mentioned that sometimes it's fun to get a little lost. Some of our best adventures have occurred when we took a wrong turn!
__________________

__________________
Evergreengirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2013, 08:12 AM   #58
Senior Member
 
Vickie B.'s Avatar
 
Name: Vickie
Trailer: 1988 Perris Pacer ('Bean') / 2015 Ford F-150, 2017 Winnebago UltraLite 27BHSS
Nebraska
Posts: 1,110
Registry
Have had nothing but headaches with Garmin---from trying to upload new maps to being sent on ridiculous routes! The last straw was our trip to South Dakota last week. We now have good ole PAPER maps! I will say Siri on my iPhone seems to do a bit better job, but she scolds me if I swear at her !!!!!!
__________________

__________________
1988 Perris Pacer
2010 Honda Ridgeline
2013 Winnebago Minnie 2101FBS
Vickie B. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2013, 08:56 AM   #59
Senior Member
 
Name: Eddie
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Virginia
Posts: 1,556
I use maps, atlas, GPS and phone GPS software. Since we had a new tablet (Cell phone cap.) I decided to download Copilot as suggested by Thom (Parkliner). I ordered USA and Canada maps for about $15 (USA only about $10). The only issue was the initial map download takes quite a while.
With a 10" tablet the display is really great and eaisly readable. It really helps if you have a real copilot to manage the tablet. What I like the most is trip planning. When I asked for a route it ploted me three differnt routes and gave me mileage and time for each route at the bottom of the screen. You just select which you want one you want to take. It also lets you drag and drop your route if you want to take another route. We have only used it on one 250 mile trip but so far we are impressed. Thanks for the info. on the program Thom. But I still will keep my atlas and maps as back up.
Eddie
__________________
Eddie Longest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2013, 09:11 AM   #60
Senior Member
 
Steve L.'s Avatar
 
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2003 Casita 16' SD
Michigan
Posts: 1,690
Registry
As a single traveler, I’m all about GPS. I want spoken confirmation of the next direction, an option for automatic recalculation, a color display with the route highlighted, at least a 7” display and I want a rich POI database.

But once there, I want to roughly plan the local wandering on a paper map. I like the DeLorme Gazetteers and I’m slowly expanding my library as I travel to new states and buy a new gazette in the state.

I would gladly spend serious money if I found a wire bound (lays flat) atlas with DeLorme-like detail of the whole US and Canada. Perhaps 4-5 volumes with a volume per region. The whole box set of Gazetteers is $650 which is too much (I said serious money, not crazy money). The regional sets are $75 each which are certainly doable, perhaps a region at a time over time.
__________________
Steve L. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2013, 04:37 PM   #61
Moderator
 
Name: RogerDat
Trailer: 77 Scamp 13
Michigan
Posts: 3,081
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jared J View Post
They weren't using anything, including their brains and common sense. I don't care if it IS the right road, if the conditions are that bad, stay home. If you don't have food, water, pack boots, straps, tire chains, a shovel, winter clothing, and a heat source…stay home. If kids are with, stay home!

I will drive in bad winter conditions, but I also carry a ridiculous amount of winter gear with me.
I was always flabbergasted at the couple and baby that "survived" their own stupidity and they made a movie out of it. They left for a long trip to visit to family in a snow storm with not so much as winter shoes or coat.

In the middle of nowhere they pulled over and took the chains off because the road was plowed and they could go faster without the chains. Then turned down a "not maintained" road, got stuck, set out hiking toward the next town on the unplowed road they were on. Eventually (a day or two later) the husband hiked back to the plowed road and was discovered by the plow driver who was going through about every hour.

The husband and wife lost their toes to frost bite, the baby was ok. All because they had no gear and were not bright enough to figure out that a road plowed well enough during a snow storm to not need chains would have a plow show up pretty soon.
__________________
RogerDat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2013, 05:13 PM   #62
Senior Member
 
Carol H's Avatar
 
Name: Carol
Trailer: 22' Airstream Formerly 16' Scamp
British Columbia
Posts: 11,731
Registry
Then there was the couple from the Interior of BC who last winter decided to follow a short cut route on the GPS to Las Vegas in the middle of March - over snow covered closed gravel roads and through the mountains. She was found in May still alive in the van that was still stuck in the snow and who knows how she survived - he has never been found.

No GPS can ever have enough safeguards built into it to prevent people from making very silly mistakes.
Carol H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2013, 06:40 PM   #63
Senior Member
 
Name: george
Trailer: FunFinder
Missouri
Posts: 455
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carol H View Post
Then there was the couple from the Interior of BC who last winter decided to follow a short cut route on the GPS to Las Vegas in the middle of March - over snow covered closed gravel roads and through the mountains. She was found in May still alive in the van that was still stuck in the snow and who knows how she survived - he has never been found.

No GPS can ever have enough safeguards built into it to prevent people from making very silly mistakes.
Yes, I have had a GPS suggest I turn down a very narrow alley one time !

I still have an old Garmin gps plus three on one of my motorcycles. I used to map out trips on the computer using street atlas, and then plug in the lat/long manually for each waypoint. It actually worked well. A bit time consuming, but fun nonetheless.
__________________
gmw photos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2013, 12:32 PM   #64
Senior Member
 
honda03842's Avatar
 
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,300
I used gps to take us to our. Campground as a trial. Instead of taking us in thr main road it took us in the emergency fire road. A road few rvs would want to drive. We drove it in the crv and I wouldn't tow my trailer on it. Gps and maps in combo with realistic oversite.
__________________
Norm and Ginny

2014 Honda Odyssey
1991 Scamp 16
honda03842 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2013, 01:04 PM   #65
Senior Member
 
Ice-breaker's Avatar
 
Name: Dave W
Trailer: Escape 19 and Escape 15B
Alberta
Posts: 470
This may be a bit harsh, but those who drive into the lake because the GPS told them there was a road there, or those who travel down cow paths thinking they are on an interstate are probably deserving of what they get. Neither paper maps or a GPS are not replacements for thinking.

I am comfortable with both, but let neither do my thinking for me.
__________________
Dave W - 2013 Escape 19', 2013 Escape 15B and 2011 Toyota FJ Cruiser

"You've got to be very careful if you don't know where you are going, because you might not get there." - Yogi Berra
Ice-breaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2013, 01:08 PM   #66
Member
 
Name: Jim
Trailer: Scamp 13 & TDI tugboat
Ohio
Posts: 99
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddie Longest View Post
I use maps, atlas, GPS and phone GPS software. Since we had a new tablet (Cell phone cap.) I decided to download Copilot as suggested by Thom (Parkliner). I ordered USA and Canada maps for about $15 (USA only about $10). The only issue was the initial map download takes quite a while.
With a 10" tablet the display is really great and eaisly readable. It really helps if you have a real copilot to manage the tablet. What I like the most is trip planning. When I asked for a route it ploted me three differnt routes and gave me mileage and time for each route at the bottom of the screen. You just select which you want one you want to take. It also lets you drag and drop your route if you want to take another route. We have only used it on one 250 mile trip but so far we are impressed.
Eddie, Your setup sounds like exactly the thing we are looking for. Can you tell us luddites in detail what type of tablet you're using, operating system, is there any external GPS antenna required, etc?
Does it require a cellphone data connection to function, or are the maps native and the GPS hardware is onboard? I really hate the idea of needing cell service for navigation. I usually need help navigating precisely when we are farthest from steady cell service.
Thanks!
__________________
Cheers,
Jim C
FJ40Jim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2013, 01:24 PM   #67
Senior Member
 
EddyEd's Avatar
 
Name: Tyler
Trailer: 72 Cloud
Wisconsin
Posts: 208
Registry
I generally just use my phone (Google maps or whatever app I am using at the time) and the GPS. Works great most of the time, however my most recent trip down Route 66 proved to me that you can't always rely on electronics as using them to try and navigate the old Route was impossible. I bought a few different books and maps and they worked great keeping me on the original Route(s).
__________________
EddyEd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2013, 01:44 PM   #68
Senior Member
 
Name: george
Trailer: FunFinder
Missouri
Posts: 455
Quote:
Originally Posted by EddyEd View Post
I generally just use my phone (Google maps or whatever app I am using at the time) and the GPS. Works great most of the time, however my most recent trip down Route 66 proved to me that you can't always rely on electronics as using them to try and navigate the old Route was impossible. I bought a few different books and maps and they worked great keeping me on the original Route(s).
And this is an example of where some books/maps on the old route, coupled with a mapping program on the computer could generate some lat/long waypoints to plug into my antique garmin plus3 would work well.

I think most of these newer cheaper consumer gps units like the magellen I have, do not have the option of plugging in waypoints as defined by lat/long.
__________________
gmw photos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2013, 03:12 PM   #69
Senior Member
 
Francesca Knowles's Avatar
 
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,543
Registry
I don't even have a cell phone, so I guess y'all can guess that I'm a paper map user.

My "checking local conditions backup" is the universally available Old Guys Drinking Coffee at The Local Cafe.

Francesca
__________________
.................................
Propane Facts vs. Fiction:. Click here
Tow Limit Calculator: Click here
Francesca Knowles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2013, 03:30 PM   #70
Raz
Senior Member
 
Raz's Avatar
 
Name: Raz
Trailer: Trillium 2010
Vermont
Posts: 4,063
Quote:
Originally Posted by Francesca Knowles View Post
I don't even have a cell phone

Francesca
There are 5 people in the world (myself included) that do not own a cell phone. I now know three of them!

A commonly encountered exchange

"And your cell phone number?"

"Don't have one"

"You don't have a cell phone?"

"No, the only person I really want to hear from is usually within shouting distance."

"Boy, I wish I didn't have one"



Back to our regularly scheduled program. Raz.
__________________

__________________
Raz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Toilet paper Dick Johnson General Chat 11 04-04-2011 05:59 PM
Re: toilet paper Lisa M. Plumbing | Systems and Fixtures 9 06-25-2009 12:45 PM
Someone made an ad in the paper kentj General Chat 20 12-03-2008 10:26 AM
What toilet paper do you use? RachelW Care and Feeding of Molded Fiberglass Trailers 28 08-13-2008 01:40 AM
Casita Paper Towel Rack Legacy Posts Modifications, Alterations and Updates 11 04-28-2003 07:47 PM

» Upcoming Events
No events scheduled in
the next 465 days.
» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.