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Old 09-10-2008, 10:31 AM   #15
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Does anyone know if the factories sell new gutted campers? I see you can order them loaded, but wonder if there is a way to just get a shell/axle with nothing else added??

Hi April

EggCamper sells a kit version of their 17' FGRV. It is a double wall with the galley, dinette etc. molded into the inner wall but no appliances and no electrical/plumbing installed. It did have all exterior running lights and a battery for the breakaway system so it was ready to tow. Empty weight on mine when I picked it up at the factory was 1506 lb.

Before I bought the EggCamper I called Casita and Scamp asking about an empty unit (I didn't try any of the Canadian companies). Both told me nothing like that was available.

As Donna D. has mentioned in previous posts you could use an "empty egg" as a hard shell tent for camping while you decide how to build out the interior. This would give you a chance to attend a few rallies to get lots of ideas on ways to personalize your unit.

One caution. Don't expect to save a bunch of money by building out your own unit. Unless you have all the appliances, water tanks, wire, plumbing parts and a fair collection of tools on hand you will probably break even in the long run versus the cost of a new fully equipped unit. You should also have some experience with plumbing, electrical and carpentry under your belt before you start or be willing to do a lot of reading in the do-it-yourself aisle of your local library. On the other hand, you could be camping while you complete the buildout and enjoying each new convenience as you install it. That's what I've been doing.

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Old 09-10-2008, 11:50 AM   #16
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Thanks for all the advice! We had considered the box trailer method, but so far everything I have found has either been just as expensive empty, and/or too heavy to start with. We also considered the teardrop, but we plan to basically live out of our trailer once we start our move, for a few months anyway, so being realistic, I don't want to have a "coffin" sized camper to have to hang out in for that long of time. We really do need something that we can spend time in during bad weather and have room for our extra stuff. Because my car only pulls 1500lbs (according to the book) we have to keep it as light as possible. So I have narrowed my search down to the 13' fiberglass shell campers. Enough room to spend time in, but still small enough to pull with our extra stuff in there. I am sure if this drags out for a few more months, we will have saved a bit more money and will be able to raise the cap of what we can spend. One of my concerns was having enough time with the trailer (at home) to really find out what needs to be worked on before we get out on our month+ venture to the NW.
I am trying to be as safe as possible, so finding a used trailer that may end up having a bad axle or something down the road is also a concern. We are not mechanics, so we may accidentally overlook something that could cause us trouble once in use.
If we were able to find just the shell/axle empty, we probably would not try to fill it in exactly as the prefabs are designed. We would find more creative ways to use the space for our needs. I already have 3 full sized 4" memory foam matresses at home, lots of cussions and pillows and we have one of the igloo icechest fridges that only pull 100watts to run that is the same size as most rv units. But again I must say my expectations are low on getting an empty factory shell, as several people have mentioned to me that they won't do it that way.

I just like to explore all my options, so keep the ideas flowing!! We are an open book right now. And again THANK YOU for the help!!!
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:21 PM   #17
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Because my car only pulls 1500lbs (according to the book) we have to keep it as light as possible. So I have narrowed my search down to the 13' fiberglass shell campers.
UUMMMM! You can pull 1500#, which is the dry weight of many of the eggs. By the time you build any cupboards, etc. out of wood, the weight really adds up. Sometimes a small, used trailer weighs less than one that has been retro-fitted. Just my 2-cents' worth!
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:39 PM   #18
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UUMMMM! You can pull 1500#, which is the dry weight of many of the eggs. By the time you build any cupboards, etc. out of wood, the weight really adds up. Sometimes a small, used trailer weighs less than one that has been retro-fitted. Just my 2-cents' worth!
that may be true...but the dry weigh you mentioned includes all the guts as well doesn't it? anyway, I don't think the factories are going to work with me, I sent Casita an email asking about bare bones unit, and used units and they only responded about not having anything used. I never even got an answer about a shell.
If we do find one empty, we would not use heavy building materials, such as wood, I was even thinking of skipping the cabinet look all together, there are other methods of storage, and we are fairly creative people. I was also thinking of checking our local salvage yard for old rv parts that might work. In the long run it may not be cheaper, but that isn't the issue, we just don't have $5000 to dish out all at once right now, but do have a steady trickle of income so in time it wouldn't matter what we spent to fix a unit up, it's the big cost at once that is getting us. If this trend continues for a few more months our savings will continue to grow allowing us have a larger nut to play with

chances are we will find a good used one at some point down the road. Thanks again!
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:47 PM   #19
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April, you will probably have better luck with Casita if you call rather than email. They're not at all into using computers.
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:59 PM   #20
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April, you will probably have better luck with Casita if you call rather than email. They're not at all into using computers.
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I'll second that. When I was doing my research I e-mailed them and didn't get an answer. Had to call to get any info.
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Old 09-11-2008, 01:16 AM   #21
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You may also find that the stuf you add weighs more than you think, esp if you are going to have appliances like refrigerators. Try weighing all that memory foam together...
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:02 PM   #22
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You may also find that the stuf you add weighs more than you think, esp if you are going to have appliances like refrigerators. Try weighing all that memory foam together...
Good point, I think we will end up with one that is already built. I got a NO from Casita, and a phone call that I missed from Scamp, so I have not talked to Scamp yet. I still don't expect much to come out of that either.

We will just be happy with any camper that is the right size/weight and in good usable condition.
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Thought you would find this interesting. Camper plans to build your own HERE

This guy used the plans to build a truck camper HERE
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Old 09-23-2008, 12:49 PM   #24
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I did talk to Scamp, they did not offer what we were looking for, but they did offer us some dicounted 13' campers in the $6000-7000 price range (new) that just didn't have many options added. Still out of our price range, but good to know about.

It looks like we are going with a used one for now.
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:19 PM   #25
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I have/had the same thoughts on getting a "gutted" trailer.

Mostly my concern is to simplify and make-efficient the interior design. I'm not a fan of all the bells and whistles so to speak. And I feel I can make better use of the space. Plus the cool factor, and personalization one feels...

I just wanted to thank you for posting the topic, and to thank everyone who who offered some feedback. I was able to answer a lot of questions I had.
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Old 09-24-2008, 10:38 AM   #26
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I did talk to Scamp, they did not offer what we were looking for, but they did offer us some dicounted 13' campers in the $6000-7000 price range (new) that just didn't have many options added. Still out of our price range, but good to know about.

It looks like we are going with a used one for now.
April,

How low in the $6000 range, and what did they take out, or perhaps more easily, what did it have?

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Old 09-24-2008, 09:27 PM   #27
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April,

How low in the $6000 range, and what did they take out, or perhaps more easily, what did it have?

Pam
That's got to be a stripped down model. Here's their webpage for pricing:
Scamp Trailer Pricing
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April, are you looking for a project, or do you want to go camping?

Gutting and restoring a trailer is a project, and doing a project and going camping are generally mutually exclusive activities. Find a nice used trailer and use it a bunch. Have a great time, and figure out what you really want. If, while you use that one, you find another that you can gut and re-build to suit after you've figured out what works and what doesn't work for you, you'll be that much further ahead, and enjoy your camping journeys too.

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