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Old 08-07-2013, 09:03 PM   #15
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All 4 of the aforementioned dogs were little ones. I don't even blame the dogs really, most of the camp wanted to strangle their kids, too. It was an adult problem.
This right here is the key to most problems people have with dogs. It is almost never the fault of the dog, but that of an irresponsible owner. I would venture to say that the vast majority of dogs are not properly trained, and do not get enough exercise. This is not to say that people don't love their furkids, they are just to lazy, or not strong willed enough to bother doing the right thing.

Any dog can be trained to follow basic commands, to heel, recall, sit, down and stay. They can also be trained to not jump, bark, or any other nuisance trait.

Our dog is not angel, but he responds instantly to any of the basic commands, he just knows that he must. Any dog I have even had was in training from the moment they came into my life. After showing them the appropriate reaction to a command and having them learn it, I would never allow them to not do as I say. By the time they are 6 months, they will be fully trained. Our dog knows his place, loves his life, and totally loves us too.

He also gets at least an hour run every day without fail. Even if it is raining, snowing, super hot, or -35°C, he gets his exercise.

We just love to take him camping, and do so on most trips. We too plan around where he is allowed. We mostly prefer to boondock, so finding a place to exercise him is not problem. We have left him at home when going to US National Parks, as they don't allow dogs almost everywhere there, and given how poorly behaved the average dog is, I don't blame them.

We are fortunate to have a great family and friend network that will gladly take care of Jasper for any length of time, and we can rest assured that he will be well cared for. Nonetheless, we do still miss him when he is not with us. We both work from home, so almost always he is with one of us.

He is only 5 years old, so we will have him well into retirement which I hope is within 5 years. We hope then to do some extended trips of multiple months in length, but will have to plan around him. Trips that would be more difficult to do with a dog will have to wait, or be of a 2 week nature.

Having had a dog most of my adult life, I really have trouble imagining not having one, they truly are man's best friend.
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The little dog thing has been my experience, also. I've only had one big dog bite me, I've had quite a few mop dogs bite me. I'm more scared of yorkies and shitzus than I am pitbulls,rottweilers, or german shepherds.
Many people who get small dogs don't bother with training of any sort (offering 'treaties' in order to have a positive result is not training), is one of the biggest problems with them. There are a few well trained, but not many. I have been around all sizes of dogs through my entire life, though mostly of a larger size. Only once was I ever bit by a dog. I just dare any dog to threaten me. I am much larger and can be even more fierce then they can if provoked. Other than that, I really am a softy, and just love all dogs anyway.
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It's an owner problem 99.9% of the time unfortunately (the .1% is where early neurological development goes wrong, and is probably really more like .001%)! And the little dogs are the worst because so many owners don't do any training with them since they can just pick them up and solve any problem (tongue in cheek).

I'm a sighthound girl. They need to run their demons out for a few minutes a couple times a day, but otherwise are couch potatoes. Unless we want to go on a 7 mile hike, and then they're fine with that. Or I can combine a walk with a bunch of training and tire them out mentally instead of physically if I'm in a place where they can't run...

I will let them off leash in places I'm not supposed to if I can find a safe, mostly deserted spot to do it. A couple weekends ago we were camping at Jarrel Cove State Park here in WA with friends who both drove and boated in. It just so happened there was a meadow about a 5 minute walk from our site with one way in and one way out, so if people were coming (which happened twice in a long weekend with many stops at the meadow), I called them to me and leashed them. One of the dogs is a 4 month old puppy. No issues. We also bring at least one x-pen so we can make a little yard right by our trailer where they can see us and we can see them from the campfire, but they aren't ever just off-leash hanging out at our site. I'll also let them off at beaches if we can get proper sighthound fighting distance away from other people, which is most of the time.

It just takes a little extra preparation and management to have decently behaved dogs at a campsite, if you've done the training and have decently behaved dogs to begin with. I hate yappy dogs left in an RV just as much as I hate the generator left running at a big RV, or the screaming kids at the next campsite over! To each their own, I'll just try to be considerate and hope others do the same.
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We travel pretty extensively in the winter months, mostly National Parks. Lots of dogs around and very few well trained, if trained at all. Most people will pick up after their dog, not all, and that where it ends. Most will have these long extendable leashes with the dogs tugging at the very end of the maximum length. When I see that I know the has not been trained.

My encounters with dogs off leash has not always been a good encounter. People seem to think that the moment they get into the woods it's ok to let their dog run free. One of those free running dog almost knocked my wife off a trail with 200' drop on side. I've been bitten, ran into dog poop on a X-C ski trail, the list goes on and on. Dogs locked up in an RV barking all day. A generator running all day so a dog could be locked up an air conditioned Motor Home.

Every once in a while you run across a really nice dog, well trained and well behaved. They can be a pleasure to be around.

I'm a firm believer that dogs need to be left at home and not annoy people that paid for a quiet few days of camping.
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I'm a firm believer that dogs need to be left at home and not annoy people that paid for a quiet few days of camping.
So if the only way you know that people have a dog is that you see the dog, you still think they should be left at home? Sorry Byron, I'm not going to ruin my vacation for you...
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heh...this thread is sounding alot like the generator threads... can't please everyone... everyone pays to be at that campground/park etc so we should all try to be as curteous as possible and carry ear plugs as a backup plan (works for kids too )
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So if the only way you know that people have a dog is that you see the dog, you still think they should be left at home? Sorry Byron, I'm not going to ruin my vacation for you...
Agreed. I think kids are way more annoying than dogs, especially kids on skateboards and kids with firecrackers. Second in annoying is loud drunks, then loud music or television coming from a big MH. However I do try to keep my dogs from annoying anyone, sometimes more successfully than others. (They bark at kids on skateboards or big dogs that are running loose.) But they never make a peep after hours and I pick up after them.

Traveling- sight-seeing- would be more of an issue, and I can see why someone who likes museums and such in warm parts of the country would worry. Me, I'd happily wait with the dogs while you go in!
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Where is it written you can not leave you pet inside your airconditioned trailer?
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I just read this thread and was impressed with a dialogue going on.
I find this issue in other places about like politics.......LOL

And I kept wondering when the thread would turn to "kids." hahahaha

But then again, the root problem is the same....................adults/parents.

Animals in my space annoy me but I can cope with it.
Kids in my space annoy me and sometimes I can cope with it. lol.
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Where is it written you can not leave you pet inside your airconditioned trailer?
I leave my a/c running whether I'm in it or not.
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So if the only way you know that people have a dog is that you see the dog, you still think they should be left at home? Sorry Byron, I'm not going to ruin my vacation for you...

Why should I let you ruin my vacation????
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Perhaps we need a over 55 campground guide and perhaps an adults only campground guide, and a pet free campground guide and no generators allowed campground guide plus no radio or music playing campground guide and let's not forget the no smoke from your fire campground guide. Might as well stay home......campground guide...ops almost forgot, the no annoying air-conditioning noisy operation campground guide.....
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Where is it written you can not leave you pet inside your airconditioned trailer?

Most National Parks, many States have rules and laws against leaving a pet inside a vehicle including an RV.
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Why should I let you ruin my vacation????
How does SEEING my dogs ruin your vacation?! They are quiet and well behaved and I was responding to you saying all dogs shouldn't be allowed!

You may as well ask me to leave my husband at home, since seeing him might offend you... They're FAMILY. They may not be human, and I wouldn't call them my kids like some people, but they are our family.
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