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05-07-2013, 12:46 PM
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Dry Flush Toilet?
I came across this yesterday: DryFlush | The Waterless Toilet It looks like a new product. I am perplexed by this and tried to find what the cost would be for bags since being thrifty, I wonder could I afford the bags as they almost look like Mylar. I saw a price on the toilet at another website and it was about $450.00. It is sort of neat in a way. I don't really care to bag our wastes though and put them in the trash can. Maybe I would change my mind if this turned out to be something, well, that I am just not seeing now. It does have a great profile.
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05-07-2013, 01:21 PM
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....only if it puts a red ribbon on it. Raz
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05-07-2013, 01:23 PM
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You can achieve the same thing with a 5 gallon pail and a box of plastic garbage bags. No electric motor though.
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05-07-2013, 01:36 PM
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Name: Thom
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I also did a bit of research and a three pack of cartridges (15 uses each) was $60 +$15 s/h... So the math says it is $1.66 per use... My wife & i are happy to stick with our biodegradable bags & kitty litter!
(Her idea... So I'm not gonna rock the boat!)
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05-07-2013, 03:13 PM
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Name: Jay Marlette
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It reminds me of a diaper genie.
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05-07-2013, 04:38 PM
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Name: Kathy
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I think this is a bad idea, except maybe for emergency use (and who could afford it for that?). The manufacturer talks a lot about the waste being gone, all gone. Wrong! It ends up in the landfill! I'd rather my black tank waste get disposed of properly at a dump station.
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05-07-2013, 04:59 PM
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I can see that. If it is like the Diaper Genie, waste would include a bag and a plastic spool that will not break down in a land fill. Disposing liquid waste that can be treated seems the greener option.
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05-07-2013, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evergreengirl
The manufacturer talks a lot about the waste being gone, all gone. Wrong! It ends up in the landfill! I'd rather my black tank waste get disposed of properly at a dump station.
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I have news for you. Where do you think it goes after the dump station collects it?
It gets transported to a Waste-water Treatment Plant (By either pipeline or tank truck) where the "water" is separated from the "Biomass". (Official Government term for s**t.) The water is purified and returned to a river or the ocean (whichever is closer) and the "Biomass" is collected and loaded onto trucks which takes it to...
<drumroll>
A Landfill!
I know this because I service the truck scales at several southern California Waste-water Treatment plants where they weigh the "Biomass" carrying trucks.
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05-07-2013, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Frederick L. Simson
I have news for you. Where do you think it goes after the dump station collects it?
It gets transported to a Waste-water Treatment Plant (By either pipeline or tank truck) where the "water" is separated from the "Biomass". (Official Government term for s**t.) The water is purified and returned to a river or the ocean (whichever is closer) and the "Biomass" is collected and loaded onto trucks which takes it to...
<drumroll>
A Landfill!
I know this because I service the truck scales at several southern California Waste-water Treatment plants where they weigh the "Biomass" carrying trucks.
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Here in Vermont the whole load ends up in a lagoon where it is treated. Then it gets spread on the fields. This makes the grass grow. The grass is then cut for silage. Over the winter the cows eat the silage and produce milk. Some of the milk is turned into cheese, ice cream......... Raz
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05-07-2013, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by P. Raz
Here in Vermont the whole load ends up in a lagoon where it is treated. Then it gets spread on the fields. This makes the grass grow. It is then cut for silage. Over the winter the cows eat the silage and produce milk. Some of the milk is turned into cheese, ice cream......... Raz
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Some municipalities have industry which results in heavy metals in the sludge. Not good fertilizer in that case.
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05-07-2013, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Thomas G.
Some municipalities have industry which results in heavy metals in the sludge. Not good fertilizer in that case.
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Not here, Ben and Jerry's won't allow it.
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05-07-2013, 06:56 PM
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You Go FREDRICK - I sold pipe for johns-Manville pipe division for years water/sewer etc... nice to hear someone with some sense - and the newer plastic bags these days are specifically designed to break down more readily in the environment
refreshing to hear some sense and sensibility - I still cannot spell well
believe it or not poop and pee is good for mother earth - lets just not put it everywhere we possibly can...it makes great soil/dirt...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederick L. Simson
I have news for you. Where do you think it goes after the dump station collects it?
It gets transported to a Waste-water Treatment Plant (By either pipeline or tank truck) where the "water" is separated from the "Biomass". (Official Government term for s**t.) The water is purified and returned to a river or the ocean (whichever is closer) and the "Biomass" is collected and loaded onto trucks which takes it to...
<drumroll>
A Landfill!
I know this because I service the truck scales at several southern California Waste-water Treatment plants where they weigh the "Biomass" carrying trucks.
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05-07-2013, 07:20 PM
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Look at the video to see how it works. After 15 uses you will have a giant pastic sausage, twisted after each use, to get rid of. For $1.66 a use I can walk to the camps loo and/or empty a better quality porta-potty
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05-14-2013, 11:03 PM
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Name: Jerrybob
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Originally Posted by Bob Miller
Look at the video to see how it works. After 15 uses you will have a giant pastic sausage, twisted after each use, to get rid of. For $1.66 a use I can walk to the camps loo and/or empty a better quality porta-potty
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I agree....sounds like a bunch of crap to me!
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05-14-2013, 11:57 PM
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Name: Kathy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frederick L. Simson
I have news for you. Where do you think it goes after the dump station collects it?
It gets transported to a Waste-water Treatment Plant (By either pipeline or tank truck) where the "water" is separated from the "Biomass". (Official Government term for s**t.) The water is purified and returned to a river or the ocean (whichever is closer) and the "Biomass" is collected and loaded onto trucks which takes it to...
<drumroll>
A Landfill!
I know this because I service the truck scales at several southern California Waste-water Treatment plants where they weigh the "Biomass" carrying trucks.
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Frederick, of course it doesn't just disappear! My point was that I think it's better to dispose of human waste at a dump station, a flush toilet or even vault toilet when you go camping. That way the effluent does get treated in some way. The fluid components will be treated at a waste water treatment plant to make them safe to return to our rivers, lakes and oceans. The sewage sludge is digested by anaerobic bacteria and is sometimes dewatered, heat treated or composted to further make it safe. The "biosolids", if properly handled, can be used in silviculture, agriculture or land reclamation rather than ending up in a plastic bag in a landfill. According to a 2010 article in Scientific American, about 50% of sewage sludge in America is reused so it doesn't all end up in landfills!
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05-15-2013, 06:19 AM
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Name: Mike
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I know they sell zoo-poo and I think human-poo fertilizers (have to check). I know when I lived in Florida you could go out near the waste station area where there was the sprayers and find wild tomatoes that looked pretty healthy and people picked them. I got sent to Yemen for a month and then found out all my "local" food was cooked with the dried human kind in outdoor ovens. I was also sick for two months straight when I got back and on all kinds of meds to get rid of what ever I had. Not fun. Think I will stick to what I have now.
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