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Old 06-30-2003, 10:48 AM   #1
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Dutch surnames

I see a number of Dutch surnames in the list, spelled the American way.
van den Berg :wave
van Pelt :wave
de Boer :wave
Even Sanders could be one :wave
Is there somebody amongst them who speaks Dutch?

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Old 06-30-2003, 11:24 AM   #2
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Alas, no help here! I barely speak English good.
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Old 06-30-2003, 02:05 PM   #3
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Hi Lex,
My paternal grandparents emigrated (separately) as children, Grandfather VanDenBerg was about 6, and Grandmother Doorlag was about 12. My Grandpa could speak Dutch, but read and wrote English only. My Grandma could speak, read or write in either. They had seven children, 6 girls and my Dad. They didn't teach their children the language, and would in fact speak Dutch when they didn't want the kids to understand. But evidently some of my Aunts understood enough to figure out what they were saying, but never let on that they could.
My Dad knows a few dozen words and a couple of phrases, and can decipher most written words given enough time, but that's about it. I am completely clueless. By the way, Dad says our surname loosely means "from the town". Is he right?
John "not-so-Dutch" VanDenBerg
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Old 06-30-2003, 03:00 PM   #4
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My ancestors immigrated to the Albany, NY area in the late 1600's from Holland. They gradually spread up the Mohawk river towards Amsterdam, Utica and then out west. The original spelling of my last name was Konijn. Since then there have been about 30 different variations on it, my branch of the tree finally ending up with Connine at the turn of the century (last one, not this one ;) ). I wish I did speak Dutch... in researching my family history I came across some first names that must have been beautiful sounding. Arrientje is one of them that comes to mind off the top of my head.
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Old 06-30-2003, 03:03 PM   #5
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Hi Jr,
I can't judge your English. ;)
Do you know the origin of the name Holland?

Hi John,
Thanks for the story. So eventually your roots are here. :cheers
'van den Berg' means 'from the Mountain' .
Is there a reason to write your name with 2 extra capitals inside?
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Old 06-30-2003, 03:07 PM   #6
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Origin of the name

Well, I know our line most likely came from England or Ireland. (I am English-French-German-Scots-Irish-Native American-who knows what else!). That is about all I know.
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Old 06-30-2003, 03:10 PM   #7
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Extra Capitals

I think this is an Americanism. My aunt married a Van Der Molen and my cousins are related to Van Culins. I think it gets capitalized to emphasize that they are all part of the last name. A lot of people try to drop the "van der" parts when filing papers or such. I see the same in Italian names "DiMilio" and Spanish "LaCruz."
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Old 06-30-2003, 03:12 PM   #8
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sorry no

Grand dad was from holland, and made may trips home for visits
my parents have made the trip a few times. Maybe some day ill take up a cousins offer to go sailing .
Al
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Old 06-30-2003, 03:18 PM   #9
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Eric,
That's interesting : from Konijn to Connine. Probably the pronouncation is the same ( if nine is pronouced as fine).
Konijn means rabbit, did you know that?
I never heard the name Arrientje. 'tje' is the Dutch way to say 'little'. So it is little Arrien. Probably an old name. I do know a lady with the name Arien, with 1 r.
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Orginally posted by Al V

* * * * * * Grand dad was from holland, and made may trips home for visits *
my parents have made the trip a few times. Maybe some day *ill take up a cousins offer to go sailing .
Al
Al, V is the first letter of ...?
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Old 06-30-2003, 03:42 PM   #11
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most common of names

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Old 06-30-2003, 03:47 PM   #12
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Orginally posted by Al V
Verburg
That's very Dutch :cheers
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Old 06-30-2003, 03:47 PM   #13
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Lex,

So I guess that makes me a Dutch Hillbilly. ;)

John
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Old 06-30-2003, 04:56 PM   #14
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Lex... Yes, I did know that it means rabbit. In searching the family history we actually came across a family crest, and prominantly displayed on it is a rabbit... There were 3 brothers who immigrated here... all estate lawyers... and uhmmmm, kinda not too honest of ones either. They married their kids off to their most wealthy clients, and then when they passed away they took not only their own share of the estate, but their kids who had married into the family as well. Now days, I beleive that would be called conflict of interest... back then I guess it was sound financial planning :L The brothers names were Leendert, Philipse and Derrick. Derrick, the youngest is my direct ancestor. For quite a few generations they married within the Dutch community. In the mid 1800's, two generations of my ancestors married women from the Mohawk Tribe, and then it was back to the Dutch.

Some of the spellings were Konyn, Conyn, Connine, Conine, Conyne, Connyne, Connoyne... and these were just my direct ancestors. Go off into the brothers and sisters there were Ca's in place of the Co's, I's, Y's, double N's, single N's, you name it... One of the reasons is that my family had a nasty habit of getting ticked off at one another and changing the spelling of the name. One generation had 5 siblings with 4 different spellings.

Now that I have rambled on and told everyone more than they ever wanted or cared to know about my family... another bad familial habit :reyes You should see me ramble about politics!
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