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Old 08-03-2008, 04:26 PM   #1
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After the recent 5.something Earthquake here in Southern California, a friend in Los Angeles sent me this piece. I don't remember seeing it before, so I'd like to pass it on to others:
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According to Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the American Rescue Team International (ARTI)

[b]Where to be During an Earthquake

Remember that stuff about hiding under a table or standing in a doorway?? Well, this guy has a completely reverse opinion. This is very interesting; different from what we were all taught.

Boy! Is this ever an eye opener. Directly opposite of what we've been taught over the years! I can remember in school being told to, 'duck and cover' or stand in a doorway during an earthquake. This guy's findings are absolutely amazing. I hope we all remember his survival method if we are ever in an earthquake!!!

Please read this and pass the info along to your family members; it could save their lives someday!

[b]EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE: 'TRIANGLE OF LIFE'

My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an earthquake.

I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and I am a member of many rescue teams from many countries.

I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years. I have worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except for simultaneous disasters.

The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico City during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under its desk. Every child was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have survived by lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It was obscene, unnecessary and I wondered why the children were not in the aisles. I didn't at the time know that the children were told to hide under something.

Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings falling upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving a space or void next to them. This space is what I call the 'triangle of life'. The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The less the object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the probability that the person who is using this void for safety will not be injured. The next time you watch collapsed buildings on television, count the 'triangles' you see formed. They are everywhere. It is the most common shape, you will see, in a collapsed building.

[b]TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY

1) Most everyone who simply 'ducks and covers' WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE are crushed to death. People who get under objects, like desks or cars, are crushed.

2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal position. You should too in an earthquake. It is a natural safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void. Get next to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave a void next to it.

3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in during an earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the earthquake. If the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are created. Also, the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight. Brick buildings will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries but less squashed bodies than concrete slabs.

4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can achieve a much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on The back of the door of every room telling occupants to lie down on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.

5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to a sofa, or large chair.

6) Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the door jamb falls forward or backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door jam falls sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In either case, you will be killed!

7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different 'moment of frequency' (they swing separately from the main part of the building). The stairs and remainder of the building continuously bump into each other until structural failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get on stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads and horribly mutilated. Even if the building doesn't collapse, stay away from the stairs. The stairs are a likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later when overloaded by fleeing people. They should always be checked for safety, even when the rest of the building is not damaged.


8) Get near the outer walls of buildings or outside of them if possible. It is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than the interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of the building the greater the probability that your escape route will be blocked.

9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above falls in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what happened with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway. The victims of the San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles. They were all killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and sitting or lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would have survived if they had been able to get out of their cars and sit or lie next to them. All the crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the cars that had columns fall directly across them.

10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices and other offices with a lot of paper that paper does not compact. Large voids are found surrounding stacks of paper.

Spread the word and save someone's life... The Entire world is experiencing natural calamities so be prepared!

'We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly'

In 1996 we made a film, which proved my survival methodology to be correct. The Turkish Federal Government, City of Istanbul , University of Istanbul Case Productions and ARTI cooperated to film this practical, scientific test. We collapsed a school and a home with 20 mannequins inside. Ten mannequins did 'duck and cover,' and ten mannequins I used in my 'triangle of life' survival method. After the simulated earthquake collapse we crawled through the rubble and entered the building to film and document the results. The film, in which I practiced my survival techniques under directly observable, scientific conditions, relevant to building collapse, showed there would have been zero percent survival for those doing duck and cover. There would likely have been 100 percent survivability for people using my method of the 'triangle of life.' This film has been seen by millions of viewers on television in Turkey and the rest of Europe , and it was seen in the USA , Canada and Latin America on the TV program Real TV.
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Old 08-03-2008, 05:58 PM   #2
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this "Theory" has been circulating awhile and is widely disputed.

Snopes version

I wouldn't stand in a doorway either. Not many are left standing after a Big One.
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Oh, well. I forgot to check out snopes.

Back when I lived in a Mobile Home, the Golden State Mobile Home Owner's League advised that during an earthquake the danger is that the coach would fall off of the stabilizing jacks, and they would punch up through the floor. They said that we were safer on top of the furniture, not underneath it. go figure.
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Old 08-11-2008, 03:22 PM   #4
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Oh, well. I forgot to check out snopes.

Back when I lived in a Mobile Home, the Golden State Mobile Home Owner's League advised that during an earthquake the danger is that the coach would fall off of the stabilizing jacks, and they would punch up through the floor. They said that we were safer on top of the furniture, not underneath it. go figure.
I think I'd rather be in a Fiberglass RV (provided it's not under multiple power lines, a rock face or big trees at the time) than in my house. The Trailer is built to "shake it up" as it drives down the road without things falling apart, so it's pretty unlikely it is going to collapse on top of you! It would also be pretty darn handy if you had to evacuate because of ruptured gas lines or other things that would spark a fire. I have been keeping mine packed with extra food, clothes and supplies just in case we just have to hook it up and get on down to an evacuation point or something since I bought it (now I just hope the roads don't collapse!)

The one thing I don't like about this guy's advice (I've seen it before) is that if you were out in the open beside the desk, bed or table as things started to fall, there is a big chance that if the roof didn't collapse you would still be showered with things like broken glass, chunks of plaster, and electrical fixtures that wouldn't actually have crushed the desk or table you were hiding under. That would make those small projectiles rather dangerous if enough of them hit you all over your body or in a few key spots on the head. I might take my chances with the buildiing I am in being "up to code" and not actually collapsing and try to avoid the nasty smaller pieces that will rain down by hiding under some sort of a shelter.

I was in my car at a traffic light in Camarillo, CA when the earthquake hit and I thought "boy, the wind is sure blowing out here to make my car rock and those traffic signals bounce up and down!" When I got home nothing in my house had even shifted, so I continued to think it was the wind until I saw the news that night!
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There actually was a small quake under my trailer location (Big Bear) last nite. It was only a 1.7, but I felt the trailer "Jolt" and heard the jack stands "crack". I remember the time and made a note to check this morning.

Sure enough, it was a minor quake, not a bear. I suspect the tongue jumped a bit and the crunch I heard was it setting back don on the jacks. It didn't hop far, my rear stablizers no doubt prevented it.

Not sure I want to be in the trailer either. You wouldn't hardy notice a 1.7 in a building.
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Seems to me the stabilizer advice is aimed at the piece-part stabilizers that are not attached to the RV, rather than the frame-mounted stabilizers commonly found on eggs -- More appropriately called Jack Stands.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/produ...tack-jacks/1714
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I have stabilizers on the rear welded to the frame.. and jack stands for the front.

The stabilizers helped prevent the rig from "Bucking Up" like a wild Donkey when he sees a snake. (Or a Bigfoot)
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