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Old 01-23-2015, 08:06 AM   #1
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Escape 21' Owner Feedback?

I'm just curious how those on this forum who took the leap and purchased the new model Escape 21' last year are getting along with them. Are they as great in reality as they look on paper? Any owner feedback/insight would be appreciated. Dale
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:30 AM   #2
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I never took the leap as other Escape 19 owners did, as I love the merits of my 19, BUT everyone who has bought one is extremely pleased with what they got.

I would suggest heading to the Escape Forum, doing a search and reading up on what has been said there. Lots of great information from 21 owners. Escape Trailer Owners Community
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:50 AM   #3
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I don't have a 21', I have the 5.0TA... but I could be very, very happy with the 21' SWOON.
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Old 01-23-2015, 08:56 AM   #4
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I did and would do it again. The 19' Escape I had was nice but the 21' is great. Perfect sized bed, larger bath room, rear dinette seating, huge refer, and counter space, lots of counter space. For the small price differential, well worth it.
Look here The 21 Foot Escape
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Old 01-23-2015, 10:13 AM   #5
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I looked it over from cphharley's link. So far, we love the Escape. That would be the current choice for my next FG camper if we get rid of the 13' Scamp. But I'm looking a the pricing. I added the A/C and a few more things and wow... $28,835.00. (But that still beats Olivers $45K +?) I believe Escape's pricing is Canadian so it would probably be cheaper in US $? I would possibly pull it with a Tacoma. They're rated at 6500 Cap.

The ONLY thing I see I wish could be changed on the design and that's a walk-around bed! I think it could be arranged with the bed turned perpendicular to the wall. Leave a small walk-beside space at the front wall then put the bathroom on the side and turn it sideways as well and place it against the "roadside" wall in place of the "drawer cabinet". Wonder if Escape would even entertain the idea? They appear to be custom cabinets and not molded fiberglass like Scamp, Oliver, etc.

One other thing. That's Ensolite on the walls/ceilings? For Scamp owners that have replaced theirs with an Escape, how do you compare the "ratfur" to the Ensolite? Personally, from appearance, I like the ratfur better. Wife didnt like the carpet at ALL on Casita's but was ok with the marine upholstery on the Scamp. We've had ours now 5 yrs and NO issues with the ratfur (other than the door and that was Scamp's goofy design on seals which too has been resolved by me).

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Old 01-23-2015, 10:25 AM   #6
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Darral, your bed idea would not work. A queen bed is 80" long (what I have in my 19), and at 4" wider, you would not have much length left over for walking past. Moving that bath to where you mention, would put it on top of the wheel well, which would not work. You can bet that Reace thought it all out to get what he could out of it beforehand.

Could be that I am still quite young (only 57), but the having to hop over your partner in the night is no big deal, and can actually be fun. We both usually end up taking our during-the-night trip at the same time now anyway.

The walls are a vinyl covered foam, though not unlike ensolite. I nice neutral colour, and a surface that is quite tough, and cleans up easily.
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I would possibly pull it with a Tacoma. They're rated at 6500 Cap.

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What configuration of the Tacoma has a 6500 Cap? My SIL's Taco and others I've checked have a 3,500 capacity. I would love an Escape 21' pulled by a Tacoma but didn't think it was possible.

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I really like the rat fur in my Scamp. But with my color choices, etc. in Ten Forward, I don't really miss it. The ability to make theme/color decisions when getting a custom built Escape really does make the wall covering a non-starter. And as Robert mentioned, it's easy to clean.
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Old 01-23-2015, 11:49 AM   #9
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Having had both a 19 and now a 21, I obviously like the trailer. The trailers were built four years apart and what impressed me were the improvements that were made in those intervening years. Not the sort of improvements that are going to make it on a forum. These were all minor in nature but they indicate one thing to me. The company is not sitting still, it seems like some of the other fiberglass manufacturers are in a time warp. Change comes hard for some of the other builders.

What sort of things am I talking about: heavier gauge wire around battery connections, improved labeling of wiring, better connections and securing of wire, safety and precautionary labels where appropriate, more lighting inside and tail, better sewer hose storage, larger wheels, additional venting, and most important the additions to their options list. The options list has grown in size and scope, having such a substantial list really gives the buyer choices to "have it my way". But because they are options you are not forced into very many things. Some things you just cannot have, the design and wall support system requires walls to be in certain locations, there is not a way to change that.

All of these changes are across all models, they were not differences between the 19 and 21.
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What configuration of the Tacoma has a 6500 Cap? My SIL's Taco and others I've checked have a 3,500 capacity. I would love an Escape 21' pulled by a Tacoma but didn't think it was possible.

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My 2007 Tacoma 4X4 Access cab has a 6500# tow capacity. The access cab and double cab 4X4 and prerunner have more capacity if you order the V6 engine with the factory towing package.
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Jack L answered it. Obviously, yours is a 4cyl and so is my Nissan Frontier. It has a 3500lb cap and tows my 13' Scamp VERY nicely @ 20mpg avg. I would NOT attempt a 21' Escape with it!


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What configuration of the Tacoma has a 6500 Cap? My SIL's Taco and others I've checked have a 3,500 capacity. I would love an Escape 21' pulled by a Tacoma but didn't think it was possible.

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Old 01-23-2015, 02:25 PM   #12
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Well Jim, it sounded good. With THAT configuration in the 21, you can crawl to the end I guess. With 21', I still say it could be done..the length of the bed could be an issue for taller guys. I'd take a regular size bed to get it if necessary. After the smalllllll 45" bed in my 13' Scamp, 54" would seem King sized to me. We're smaller people so the bed size is not a sizeable issue . (other than the 45" is too small period!)

[QUOTE=Jim Bennett;501105]Darral, your bed idea would not work.
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But I'm looking a the pricing. I added the A/C and a few more things and wow... $28,835.00. (But that still beats Olivers $45K +?) I believe Escape's pricing is Canadian so it would probably be cheaper in US $?

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Yup all of Canada is currently holding a real good sale on all items sold to those paying in US funds

An item worth $28,835.00 Canadian Dollars is being sold for $23,248.41 U.S. dollars, based on todays exchange rate of 0.8063 (using nominal rate).
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Yup all of Canada is currently holding a real good sale on all items sold to those paying in US funds

An item worth $28,835.00 Canadian Dollars is being sold for $23,248.41 U.S. dollars, based todays exchange rate of 0.8063 (using nominal rate).

Keep it up, I may order the 19' Escape I want sooner rather than later.
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