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Old 01-27-2011, 06:36 PM   #1
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Ethanol Caused Expensive Problems

Just got my Yamaha generator back from the Yamaha Service Department yesterday. It kept running worse and worse then finally would not start. $73.00 to disassemble and clean the carburetor of residue caused by ethanol in the gasoline. Fortunately no parts had to be replaced. The service manager advised me to try to find ethanol free gasoline. He said the ethanol leaves a white residue that clings to parts in the carburetor and builds up, eventually interfering with their function. This happens in all small engines. It is especially bad for outboard motors. I already know that it causes a reduction in fuel economy by about 15% in my truck. I have verified that myself by checking mileage while using the 10% ethanol then checking it while using ethanol free gasoline. What good does it do to dilute gasoline with the stuff?

ETHANOL IS A GIANT FRAUD THAT HAS BEEN PERPETRATED ON THE NATION. IT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
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Old 01-27-2011, 06:58 PM   #2
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My good friend had to recently pay over $1000 to have four carburetors rebuilt on his (new to him) motorcycle. The Yamaha repair shop said ethanol gas caused the damage.
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Old 01-27-2011, 07:02 PM   #3
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Just got my Yamaha generator back from the Yamaha Service Department yesterday. It kept running worse and worse then finally would not start. $73.00 to disassemble and clean the carburetor of residue caused by ethanol in the gasoline. Fortunately no parts had to be replaced. The service manager advised me to try to find ethanol free gasoline. He said the ethanol leaves a white residue that clings to parts in the carburetor and builds up, eventually interfering with their function. This happens in all small engines. It is especially bad for outboard motors. I already know that it causes a reduction in fuel economy by about 15% in my truck. I have verified that myself by checking mileage while using the 10% ethanol then checking it while using ethanol free gasoline. What good does it do to dilute gasoline with the stuff?

ETHANOL IS A GIANT FRAUD THAT HAS BEEN PERPETRATED ON THE NATION. IT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
Kinda like Global warming.
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Old 01-27-2011, 07:15 PM   #4
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My wife says she heard on the radio that it takes more than a gallon of gasoline (farm tractors, etc.) to produce a gallon of ethanol. It takes valuable cropland out of food production. Our tax dollars pay to subsidize this wasteful endeavor.
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Old 01-27-2011, 09:55 PM   #5
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Hello everyone. This thread is taking a political turn. Please do feel free to discuss your experiences and concerns with the use of ethanol/gas blends but let's steer clear of the politics.

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Old 01-27-2011, 10:03 PM   #6
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how do we find ethanol free gasoline?_____ every pump i go to has 10% ethanol.
Maybe a website?_______
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The use of Sta-Bil in small engines with every fill-up is said to offer protection when in service and not just for storage. We started using it on the recommendation of TORO for our new mower about 6-7 years ago and it still runs like new. Never had a tune-up
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Old 01-27-2011, 10:17 PM   #8
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how do we find ethanol free gasoline?_____ every pump i go to has 10% ethanol.
Maybe a website?_______
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Many marinas offer ethanol free gas. Ethanol has caused a LOT of damage to boats due to fiberglass fuel tanks. Ethanol dissolves the resin, which gets into the combustion chamber. Pretty soon, you need a new engine. That's why we had a custom aluminum tank made for our 1975 Shamrock. It is too difficult to find gas without ethanol these days.

Talking to some Stihl salesmen, it seems that ethanol makes the mix oil drop out of gas. This is not good for two stroke engines. They recommended to shake my chainsaw a bit before starting it.
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Wow, that's probably what's wrong with my Stihl.
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The use of Sta-Bil in small engines with every fill-up is said to offer protection when in service and not just for storage. We started using it on the recommendation of TORO for our new mower about 6-7 years ago and it still runs like new. Never had a tune-up

Really this is critical for small engines, motorcycles etc. Especially as they are stored for periods of no use.
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I read recently that most/all of the higher octane gasolines don't have ethanol in them. They recommended if you were filling a tank that you figured might be left and not used for awhile to try the "better" gas .
I use gas stabalizer for the off season stuff and usually have little to no problems with the carbs, etc.

Using the better gas and stabilizer could be a cheap fix to this problem.
What's the price differenec of 87 octane and say 89 octane at the pumps? How much would it actually run to fill 1 or 2 - 5 gallon jugs of gas for your "toys" before storing them?

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Like the above posts I've been using Hi-Test and Sta-Bil Every time i fill my two five gallon containers and do this all year long as a safety precaution...... Had one small engine that would only run on half choke and added Sea-Foam which also helped but not perfect (I really should take the carb apart) Still would like to find Ethanol Free gas if possible.
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Ethanol-free gas stations
Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada
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Ethanol is high octane I think. nerver heard it was not used with high octane gas. Could you check this?
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