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Old 05-17-2011, 05:49 PM   #15
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Hi Aimie,
We are 6 weeks away from getting our Escape 17b and where faced with the same dilemma.

My thoughts on the access hatch where that I didn't want any more water access points in the tub of the trailer than necessary. We are getting the tounge box so storage for wet and dirty docking accessories and chairs etc can go in there. Even though the storage areas under the seats and bed may be more difficult to access, they are more secure from both moisture and theft without the exterior panels.

We ordered the exterior shower because 1) it was not expensive, and 2) we camp with tenters in places without campsite showers and we where tired of "friends" asking to shower in our RV. Now we can point them to the outside facility.
Its also just handy to have the hot water connection accessible outside.

Enjoy your Escape! See you on the road this summer.
Hmmmm.... yes maybe the tongue box instead of the hatch. I feel the same way you do about holes in the shell.

Thanks for the input!
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Old 05-17-2011, 07:14 PM   #16
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We have the access hatch and outside shower on our 17B because the original owner ordered it that way.
We've found its nice to have hot water available outside for dirty little dogs and people to clean up from the beach before invading the smallish living space. Its also useful to clean out dutch ovens that can't go in the sink.
The outside access hatch is wonderful.
I was amazed at how much dirty stuff I can pack in there that I would never haul through the cabin and store under my bed. Things like the patio mat, leveling blocks, charcoal starter chimney... before I had that space available, that stuff would end up in the back of our Trailblazer.
A front box might be nice, but my 17B is a little tongue heavy now (350#) ...no problem for my Chev, but if I was to go down to a smaller vehicle I might regret it.
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Old 05-18-2011, 01:41 AM   #17
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We have the access hatch and outside shower on our 17B because the original owner ordered it that way.
We've found its nice to have hot water available outside for dirty little dogs and people to clean up from the beach before invading the smallish living space. Its also useful to clean out dutch ovens that can't go in the sink.
The outside access hatch is wonderful.
I was amazed at how much dirty stuff I can pack in there that I would never haul through the cabin and store under my bed. Things like the patio mat, leveling blocks, charcoal starter chimney... before I had that space available, that stuff would end up in the back of our Trailblazer.
A front box might be nice, but my 17B is a little tongue heavy now (350#) ...no problem for my Chev, but if I was to go down to a smaller vehicle I might regret it.
Good point there, too. I forgot about the fact that there is the hot water option.
We are even considering the 19 ft Escape, but trying to make sure our Tacoma V6 will be ok with it. They say the propensity in that case is the tongue weight to be a bit low since people stuff a lot of things into the large storage area under the queen bed.
Since you mentioned having the 17B -- just wondering how folks fit two people into the 49" wide bed. We are not large, but still... Not to mention the fact that the dog is a real bed hog (even though she is just an 8 lb. yorkie mix).
We loved the 17B but for the one thing -- the bed width. We started looking at the 19 because of it.
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:12 AM   #18
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Hi: aimeelightsey...We have the outside shower but no locking access hatch. Sure wish it were the other way round. If I were installing the access hatch tho I'd consider puting it upside down so the door falls open instead of needing to be propped up. As for the outside shower...we have no dog to wash and I just can't see me out there in the alltogether with a bar of soap in one hand and the wand in the other. p.s. We tow with a V6 Nissan Frontier 4dr. Crew Cab. Coming home from storage the truck just toyed with our 5.0!!!
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:18 AM   #19
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Just reading through past posts to help in my renovation for our trailer. Its funny, how one post can help you out so much. We are going to remove the shower from the bathroom and put it outside. It was really only to rinse off so we'll just be adding a "y" to the outside hose coming in!
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:14 PM   #20
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I guess you are talking about curb side access on 17B which is factory. Street side may not be practical because your electric, water heater is located there, not much room for anything else. Front curb side dinette front may have some use but your awning may eliminate that and street side is where your black tank/converter is located, not much room for access from outside. I think you will have better use thru interior access to these places, particularly when the bed is not made. Better use is the middle of rear dinette, maybe plastic tubs?
Exterior shower is another potential leak not only for water but freezing air to enter. I have had it on 4 campers and used them -0- times. Washing dogs is not practical unless you have a ton of towels to dry with and then what? I travel with 2 labs and they get bathed at home. A more practical use would be having the shower on the curb side and use it like an exterior sink for washing dishes, but not sure than can be done on a 17B?
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:47 PM   #21
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Graeme, in regards to removing the inside shower you may want to reconsider that if the resale value is of any concern to you. One of the top reasons people look for the old 1700 Bolers is for the bathroom & shower. Taking the shower out of the bathroom isnt going to save you a whole lot of space but it may cost you a whole lot of potential buyers if and when you sell the trailer. Having a private inside shower is more useful for those in Canada that like to head south in the winter and camp on BML lands etc (it might suprise you just how many Canadian fiberglass trailers you find out in the desert &/or in Mexico) or camp in the summer months in remote locations in Canada - all of which more often than not have others camping at them which makes privacy & only an outside shower an issue.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:44 PM   #22
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Thanks for the reply Carol. I think resale is not an issue as this is going to be a "retirement" project for my wife and I to travel in when we are retired... like 20 years from now! As for the bathroom we are keeping the toilet and maybe adding a sink and shelf for some toiletries. We only would need water outside to rinse off. I love getting different perspectives on these types of things. The other reason to take out the shower is there is a crack in the bottom of the shower pan. Being in construction I wouldn't trust a "fix". It also brings up the question of whether or not we need a water heater and this would provide more storage also. hmmmmm... so many questions!
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Well Graeme having reach an age where I can do the longer trips for me the shower is a big bonus to have while traveling. Some of the best spots I have camped had no public showers. As far as the water heater goes if no shower then IMHO you can get away without one. If I am camping some place with showers I often dont turn on the hot water heater - easy to put a kettle on the stove for hot water needed for dishes.
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:10 PM   #24
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It is great to hear the different perspectives (that's why I enjoy the posts) as someone may be in a different situation than I am now. Maybe we'll keep it and see about a new shower/toilet(can I call it a bathroom?)
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:40 PM   #25
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Get the outside shower. Sometime you may be dry camping and want to wash your hair or do the dishes. Buy the front box for storing all those trailer items we men must carry. Order the insulation package.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:54 PM   #26
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We bought our trailer used and it came with the outside shower. I use mine all the time for washing dishes instead of the little sink inside the trailer. I started out doing pots and pans out there and then as long as I was at it just ended up doing all of the dishes. I just set up a little folding table and a couple white tubs and don't have to worry about splashing water on the inside. But that's just me- I try to spend as much time outside while I'm camping as I can. Not telling you that you should for sure get it but just giving you other ideas to think about. Mine has never caused me any problems- cold or water infiltrations!
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Old 10-03-2012, 07:16 AM   #27
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access,,,,you can never have too much.
outside shower,,,,well,,,,aside from,,,woohooo! it depends on you personal campingstyle. my wife and i only camp where there are facilities,,as she just isn't into the roughing it thing. so for her,,,useless.
in a camp ground i suppose a y adaptor and extra hose coule be handy for rising sandy feet.
i do sometimes dry camp in state forests with not water hookups. usually there is a lake or river near by, for a rinse off. or my favorite 5 gallon plastic bucket with some water heated on the stove works just fine.

i have recently realised i am in a long term and very emotional relationship with my bucket. it has carried lunches and coffee and beer for me, it has carried fishing bait, and the fish i caught, it has carried squirrel, rabbit, ducks,quail,and woodcock. it has given me a seat when my feet were tired and my back was sore.it has been my comfort sitting in the woods hunting and on the lake ice fishing. it has carried water and washed my tired aching body at the end of a long hard day. it has carried groceries from the store, fruit from nature, books to read, my radio to enjoy. it has held iced drinks for me and my friends, morel mushrooms, and even carried home flowers for my beautiful wife. it securly totes things in my truck, camper boat, even on my bicycle. i do believe the simple plastic 5 gal. bucket is the single greatest invention of mankind. and you can get them for a dollar or two almost anywhere.

P.S. i am in no way associated with the plastic bucket industry, but i do salute them.
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