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Old 10-31-2012, 05:50 PM   #15
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Looks like you got a great deal. If your door has the original working bargman lock they are worth a few hundred dollars!
What is the condition of the fiberglass cabinets inside and the ensolite?
Ensolite is loose in the front corners, but not ripped. The cabinets are fine, but the cabinet doors need attention.
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:53 PM   #16
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Wow, I paid $2000 for something that wasn't much better than yours. It took me 2 months to go from what you have to something we are really proud of. It is also a '76 Trillium and we pretty much removed everything and had to deal with a new rock guard as well. The windows are a lot of work but if you know where to find seals and how to clean them you can have them done fairly quickly. Feel free to ask if you have any questions. Our trailer information can be found here
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There might be something there that you find useful. Otherwise good luck and enjoy.

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Nice job on your camper. Mine seems a bit overwhelming at the moment but I have to get a plan together, that should help.
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:54 PM   #17
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For $300, that is a nice Trillium! If you have any second thoughts, I would give you twice what you payed. You have the shelves front and back. The floor looks nice too. It looks like you have a fairly optioned up unit, that just needs some work, Does the door have a window? How is the ensolite?
Too bad about the heater. They are worth about $100. For a fridge, a Dometic RM211 will fit. They are fairly common. I sold one recently, for $100.
If you want to sell your tail lights, send me a PM.
David, not sure when i will get to it, but when I start working on the lights I'll try to let you know about the tail lights.
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:58 PM   #18
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Nice to see that there are still some reasonably priced fixer-uppers out there- great find, Mike!

Before getting too caught up in the cosmetics, my advice is to assure yourself of the soundness of the trailer for towing, and in the case of a Trillium of that vintage that begins with frame inspection...

There was a design problem in the '70's that led to the necessity for reinforcing plates to be welded to the tongue just before the "bend"...recall notices were sent out, but not all 1300's got this work done.

I can't tell from the pictures if yours is reinforced there or not...

Brakes, if present, may also need attention...

Keep us posted!

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Francesca, thanks for the info. The frame seems pretty solid. I crawled around under it and frame and axel are nice and straight and all I could see is some light surface rust. I don't think the trailer update addressing a recall has been performed. Didn't notice any kind of plate added to the trailer tongue.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:00 PM   #19
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You got a great deal ! The fix up is a labour of love. The body looks sound, and as the trilliums are fiberglass all way round they are pretty solid. The ensolite & inside trim is availible from Trillium/Outback in Calgary.
Keep posting pict as you progess and don't be shy on asking lots of questions. A lot of FG trailers have been restores by many on this site.
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I guess my first question is can the ensolite be stretched? The corners are loose and the ensolite seems to have shrunk a bit. I read about the trick to straighted up the t-moulding, it worked great.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:04 PM   #20
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I guess my first question is can the ensolite be stretched? The corners are loose and the ensolite seems to have shrunk a bit. I read about the trick to straighted up the t-moulding, it worked great.
Yes, the ensolite can be stretched. Just like the T-moulding, heat helps. Re-attaching it is a process of shaving it off, till you have a flap, so that you can get to the back of it. Clean off the contact cement from both the ensolite and the fibreglass. Then reapply contact cement to both surfaces. Let dry. When you re-attach, you only get one shot. Having the ensolite pre-stretched should help. For the corner pieces, stick the point where the corner piece meets the roof, and the side pieces first. Then stick the edges. What is left is slowly worked from the outside into the corner.
Or so I have read. I have not done this yet my self, but I will need to on two of my Trilliums.
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:25 PM   #21
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I don't think the trailer update addressing a recall has been performed. Didn't notice any kind of plate added to the trailer tongue.
The model year you bought is definitely covered by the original recall. The weakness in the frame won't be visible to the eye UNTIL a crack begins to open up....and you don't want that to happen when, for example, you're out on the road!

I found out about this by chance when contemplating the purchase of a 1300 for my daughter-in-law. I posted a thread here about it- folks responded with some pretty good info including the instructions for the repair recommended by Trillium's new American manufacturer. The fix itself is relatively simple and can be performed by any competent welder.

Here's the link to that discussion, for what it's worth: RECALLED TRILLIUM 1300's?

Best of luck to you!

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Old 11-01-2012, 01:02 PM   #22
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I think that there is some debate as to the years affected. Some say up to 1976, others, 1971 to 1972. The problem was really the heat treating of the frame. If your trailer has plates welded to the sides of the square tube, in the front just as the frame goes under the fibreglass, then you are good. The factory welded them on all the 4500's for extra strength.

My 1977 1300 has extra long plates on the sides, and also plates on the bottom of the square tube. My 1973? 1300 has a C channel frame, so a totally different set of problems. It is my unconfirmed theroy that the C channel frame was a response to the cracking problems. Perhaps they tried out a different manufacturer.

They also stopped drilling through the frame for the bolts that attach the fibreglass to the frame. The used angle iron tabs that were welded to the frame, and the cross members, instead.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:12 PM   #23
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I think that there is some debate as to the years affected. Some say up to 1976, others, 1971 to 1972.
There may be some discussion of other issues /theories related to Trillium frames, but there is no debate about the model (1300) and model years ('73-76, inclusive) affected by Transport Canada's Recall notice, still posted at the following link:
Road Safety Recalls Database


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Old 11-01-2012, 01:14 PM   #24
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Thank you Franacesca!
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:46 PM   #25
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Well, here is what I accomplished so far:
Cleaned the camper inside and out.
Rehung the door and resealed the doors window
Freed up all jalousie windows
Cleaned, removed and resealed 3 of 4 jalousie windows with new wood
Cleaned and repainted the trailer frame (the parts you can see anyway.
Removed the belly band and cleaned up the seam.
Straighted/repaired the rear stabilizers (looks like PO forgot to retract them)
Removed, repaired and reinstalled the roof vent.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:59 PM   #26
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You should be good to camp in it now.
What size of ball does it use?
Does it have brakes?
Why are you pictures from your first post missing?

I know, I am just full of questions.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:28 PM   #27
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Wow, you got lots accomplished in a short time - way to go!
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:32 AM   #28
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Hey Dave,
Not sure what happened to the first pics. I tried to link to them in Photobucket, I'll just upload them from now on. My trailer uses a 1 7/8" ball. I still have to wire the trailer, make new cabinet doors, fix the stove and install a fridge. I am going to remove the belly band also and make a rock guard for the front window. Oh, and it needs to be painted at some point.

Did your Trilliums both need the frame reinforced? Nothing has been done to mine.

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