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Old 09-16-2018, 07:56 AM   #43
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...Since we only have one credit card and NO outstanding debt our credit score is not the best but we don’t care cause we’re debt free .
That's the subtle pressure of the whole, lucrative credit system. You pay off debt and your score goes down, even though your financial capacity to handle debt goes up. Lending institutions want to make you feel like something is wrong because you have no debt. We paid off a vehicle and a mortgage within a month of each other recently, and the drop in our "credit rating" was disconcerting, if not unexpected.

On the other hand, I hesitate to judge another person for choosing to use credit, even for a non-essential item such as an RV, as long as it is well-managed, within their means, and leaves room for the unexpected curveballs of life. At least if it's molded fiberglass, you'll not be upside-down for long!
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Old 09-16-2018, 09:08 AM   #44
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One thing we have found in our first season w our Casita..several places we wanted to stay only had room left for TTs "under 20" feet. We were able to get reserevations and a campsite twice in popular places in FL easily by simply saying.."we have a 17' rig' FWIW
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Old 09-16-2018, 09:39 AM   #45
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There are a lot of small standard features on our Casita that are missing on our Escape such as bathroom storage ,no strip heater and no dual fuel water heater that we find frustrating.
Both are good trailers but if you want more room the choices are limited
Some day when our grandkids are grown we may go back to a 17 ft Casita

Last I checked (just now) the 21 Escape comes standard with bathroom vanity storage, and both heater strips for the AC and 2-way water heaters are available if you ask for them. I’m glad they’re options instead of standard features as that way I only have to pay for them if I want them (yes to 2 way water heater but no, thank you, to strip heaters).
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Old 09-16-2018, 10:07 AM   #46
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Last I checked (just now) the 21 Escape comes standard with bathroom vanity storage, and both heater strips for the AC and 2-way water heaters are available if you ask for them. I’m glad they’re options instead of standard features as that way I only have to pay for them if I want them (yes to 2 way water heater but no, thank you, to strip heaters).
Don’t know about the new standard bathroom vanity ,but my 2018 -21 has a small corner sink with zero counter space to set anything .
I was planning on installing my own strip heater
(which I was told is no longer an available option ) but the A/C unit Escape uses supposedly will not accept the strip heater . I guess it’s all in how you look at it , not having to pay for an option you don’t want is great but the price of the options many desire more than make up for any savings
We’ve had strip heaters in our two previous FG trailers and absolutely loved them . If I can find a way so will this one !!

Not going to turn this into a back and forth so goodbye for now
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Old 09-16-2018, 10:10 AM   #47
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I had an EggCamper, 17 feet, went to an Escape 19 and it was a great improvement.
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:16 PM   #48
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we've been going camping for many years, and owned a tent trailer for around 10 years... we knew exactly what we were getting into with the Casita, but after 2 years and a dozen trips did decide we needed a /little/ more room, so upgraded to the escape 21 after seeing several at FiberglassRV rallys. If it was just me solo (mostly at my Star Parties, which my wife finds too boring), the Casita was fine, but for our music festivals and general road trips, the Escape has proven much nicer. Trips since getting the Escape at New Years have included spring CalStar (oops, I took the Casita for one last trip as the Escape's registration wasn't finalized), the spring Strawberry Music Festival, GSSP (solo in the escape), Oregon Shakespeare and Oregon Coast Gathering (immediately after GSSP, picking my wife up at Medford Airport), Fall Strawberry Music Festival, and Fall CalStar (solo a week ago).

of these trips, most were dry camping, only the Ashland stay was full hookups, at Bullard's Beach we only had water+electric.
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:07 AM   #49
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There is a lot of good discussion here about the merits of one trailer over another, tow vehicles and trailer quality. We are one of many couples that have made the switch from a 17' Casita to a 21' Escape and love it!

I would suggest the most important consideration is that your wife thinks you should consider the larger trailer. I think peace during trips and companionship on the road would lead you to buy the new larger trailer and do it quickly.
Very true statement right here folks!
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:35 AM   #50
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And the other thing that is critical is personal finances. Used 17 foot Casitas can be found for $10k and up depending on condition and age. A used 21 foot Escape will likely cost $30k or more. That’s a lot of $ and some people don’t have it. And a TV suitable for an Escape 21 is going to be bigger than what can pull a Casita. So if someone needs s replacement TV then add that to the spending.

Me it is a lot more fun camping in a paid for Casita than making payments. So if an upgrade triggers debt I wouldn’t do it. I camped with a cheap JC Penney tent for years when I was broke. Had just as much fun!
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:42 AM   #51
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I am not really surprised that one of our FiberglassRV members is unhappy with his new Escape. In order to be happy with a fiberglass trailer purchase (or any brand of camper trailer for that manner), you really should buy one that you like prior to the purchase, not a brand or model that you have been criticizing in the forums for years in advance of your purchase!

In my case, I was happy and excited about my prospective trailer brand and model well in advance of putting down my deposit. And once I did, I was not disappointed, even five years later!
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Old 09-18-2018, 10:43 AM   #52
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I am not really surprised that one of our FiberglassRV members is unhappy with his new Escape. In order to be happy with a fiberglass trailer purchase (or any brand of camper trailer for that manner), you really should buy one that you like prior to the purchase, not a brand or model that you have been criticizing in the forums for years in advance of your purchase!
glad you said it and not me, that was exactly what was running through my mind.
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Old 09-18-2018, 10:58 AM   #53
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We have a Nissan Rogue. It starts, runs and goes down the road just fine. Everything on it works and it has been virtually trouble free for the 30k miles we’ve owned it. I do not like this vehicle because the low beam headlights are too low even adjusted as high as they will go and it has a terrible blindspot for changing lanes. We have no intention of selling or trading it as these are irritations that can be lived with through judicious use of the high beams when we are out at night and though making double sure it’s safe to change lanes.
You can’t always get what you want but if you try sometime, you get what you need. It’s kind of like your kids. I wouldn’t take a million dollars for any one of them but I wouldn’t give you 10 bucks for another one.
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There is a lot of good discussion here about the merits of one trailer over another, tow vehicles and trailer quality. We are one of many couples that have made the switch from a 17' Casita to a 21' Escape and love it!

I would suggest the most important consideration is that your wife thinks you should consider the larger trailer. I think peace during trips and companionship on the road would lead you to buy the new larger trailer and do it quickly.
last winter we were camping in our Casita at the RV park at Panamint Springs in Death Valley... we were there 2 weeks, doing side trips on various 4x4-only roads in my Tacoma each day, and the space right next to us had a variety of big campers each stay a couple nights. the one in particular I remember was a big class A with triple-slideouts, occupied by a elderly retired couple.... the guy was real interested in our Casita but confessed in a quiet voice that his wife would never go for it. we never saw the wife go outside. He said he hated the big beast, hated driving it, hated parking it, hated being trapped in it (they didn't have a dingy), but whatever keeps the wife happy...

btw, Panamint Springs is, I think, my favorite place to camp around Death Valley.
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Old 09-19-2018, 09:33 AM   #55
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Just a counter point...
I'm glad that all sorts of RVs are available but,

I like a travel trailer, not a mobile home.
If there were no 13ft fiberglass travel trailers,we would not own a travel trailer.(well maybe, reluctantly, a 16) We have all the amenities of home in a package that can go anywhere, towed by something comfortable to drive when towing and when touring.
I have towed larger trailers which caused me to swear off RV towing for many years until I discovered such 13ft trailers as the LoveBug, Scamp, etc.

Bigger is not always better. It is also nice to to have a fully equipped travel trailer in a convenient, "travel size"... and a tow vehicle which will fit in a standard garage and normal parking spot.
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:09 PM   #56
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That's exactly what we did in June of this year, sold our Casita SD17 and picked up a brand new 2018 Escape 21' in Chilliwack.



Just do it! We love the 21', and after having our Casita for 10 years, the Escape seems HUGE in comparison. It's so much more open and airy. We've towed it for 6100 miles already with our 2012 F-150, and I swear it's more stable and comfortable to tow than the Casita ever was. This has to be due to the dual axles. The Casita felt bouncy and twitchy sometimes, not so with the 21' .



We have zero regrets moving "up" to the 21'. ( Not many people can say they moved "up" to a 21 footer ! )
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