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Old 08-17-2008, 05:55 PM   #1
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And, neither did I realize how much extra fuel you use at speed.
Last week I left Hope, BC for North Vancouver, mostly flat freeway driving. I kept up with the traffic, running 110 kph and hit 120 at one point. I was still being passed most of the time. And, I had the AC on.
On that trip with Toad in tow and the canoe on the RAV, I used 18.26 litres per 100 kilometers of 12.95 mpg (U.S.)

Travelling back to Hope, with no canoe, but Toad in tow and trying to hold to 90 kph and no AC, I used 12.31 litres per 100 k or 19.22 mpg (U.S). On the return leg I used 12.34 litres / 100k or 19.17 mpg (U.S.). The return leg included gravel roads at 50 to 60 k.

Most of the traffic passing me was doing 120 - 130 kph.

I don't think they can really complain about high fuel prices when they're not prepared to do anything about it.

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Old 08-17-2008, 07:06 PM   #2
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We really noticed our last trip after Bandon when we slowed down a bit we were getting 24 MPG (Can) with our car and our Boler---when we did the mileage going without the trailer from Poco to Grand Forks (varied terrain to say the least) we got 40.4 MPG----that was with dh driving---I do have a heavier foot and did notice a difference when I drove.
I have since slowed down somewhat. I even do the Mary Hill Bypass at the required speed!!! Doug M knows what I talk about there eh????
The gas tank is staying fuller longer...
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Old 08-17-2008, 11:24 PM   #3
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Speed makes a big difference Glenn, but don't discount the canoe on top. Wind resistance is the biggest factor by far....

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Old 08-18-2008, 12:24 AM   #4
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Speed makes a big difference Glenn, but don't discount the canoe on top. Wind resistance is the biggest factor by far....
Yup, but the canoe was on the RAV and behind that was Escape with a high-lift axle so it is quite a bit higher than the canoe. Doesn't matter. I'm taking my pontoon boat next time.

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Old 08-18-2008, 12:37 AM   #5
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Nice. We were wishing for a pontoon this weekend - we were set up in the ski department, but us fisherpeople were watching the boats roll by reeling them in while we shore folks only caught small catfish. Oh well, it was a great weekend!

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Old 08-18-2008, 07:57 AM   #6
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I decided to keep track of our fuel on our trip to visit the Scamp factory. This was without a trailer, just our Suzuki XL-7 and 3 passengers. On the way there I had stayed between 70 and 75 mph, interstate almost the entire way. We got 18.8 mpg. It took almost exactly 4 hours (stopping twice) to go 238 miles.

On the way back, I kept it under 70 mph, mostly around 68 mph. We got 21.5 mpg. It took 4 hours and 15 minutes (stopping once) to go 240 miles. I think 23 mpg is possible if I keep it under 65 mph.

Sometimes it feels almost dangerous to only go the speed limit - 65 mph. Vehicles come up on you soooo fast. This last weekend, I was passing, only going 64 mph when a van full of kids came up behind and started riding my bumper. As soon as I passed and got over, they took off only to hit their brakes again when the State Trooper came into sight. I regret being in their way, they probably would have gotten a ticket.

That trip to Backus was enough to convince me that 15 minutes is not worth the extra gas and probably extra wear and tear on the vehicle.
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:04 AM   #7
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Hi: All...More people need to wake up to the equation that TIME+DISTANCE=SPEED & DISTANCE+SPEED=TIME!!! How much is your time worth, your gas worth, and your vehicle???
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:01 AM   #8
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We really noticed our last trip after Bandon when we slowed down a bit we were getting 24 MPG (Can) with our car and our Boler---when we did the mileage going without the trailer from Poco to Grand Forks (varied terrain to say the least) we got 40.4 MPG----that was with dh driving---I do have a heavier foot and did notice a difference when I drove.
I have since slowed down somewhat. I even do the Mary Hill Bypass at the required speed!!! Doug M knows what I talk about there eh????
The gas tank is staying fuller longer...
Speed not only is a gas user, it is supposedly the leading cause of crashes. The M.H. B/P can and is a real place to watch your speed AND the idiots around you.

....anyone using T.C. H (Route 1) yesterday (Sunday) afternoon got a real eye full of assorted cars coming from a car show held in Haugens Park on the south side of the freeway (behind the rest area). LOTS of eye candy to take your attention away from the task at hand. Some attendees were seen at the Vintage Trailer Ralleye held in Deming WA over the weekend!!!

Being a so called Car Guy, Gear Head AND a trailer tower, I am becoming ever more aware of people passing me while I'm towing. Passers usually want to 'rubber neck' at you as they pass you and quite often end up steering (accidentally) into your lane (cutting you off) because you usually tend to steer in the direction you are momentarily looking in.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:07 PM   #9
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Yup, but the canoe was on the RAV and behind that was Escape with a high-lift axle so it is quite a bit higher than the canoe. Doesn't matter. I'm taking my pontoon boat next time.

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So, how do you secure that pontoon boat on top of the Rav anyway?

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So, how do you secure that pontoon boat on top of the Rav anyway?

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Haven't done it yet, but shouldn't be any different than tying it to the rack on the Explorer. I have it slightly under-inflated and tie it using a trucker's hitch across the front and back. Don't ask me to put "trucker's hitch" into print. With changes in temp and altitute the tubes need attention. You can deflate them some as you go up and and we recently discovered, it's easier to pump them up when you come down than to retie the ropes.

Don't tell anybody, but I once tied it to the roof and trunk of the company car, a Neon, without a rack, just running the rope through the back windows.
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I am glad you opened the topic on this point, the higher gas goes the slower I go, the danger is I have found that the money saved is offset by more hot heads taking greater and greater risks to pass me...risking me. "I do pull over at all legal pull outs to let them by". I went to the FBRV Showlow Az meet and I cannot tell you the risks I saw that were taken. I also had a teen in daddies Vet scrape the trailer on the left side...pity...if you scratch a Corvette with a pearl finish you pretty much have to paint the whole car to get it to match...Dad must have been beside himself in the morning. We got up into the white mountains and there were 10 cylinder trucks with fifth wheels the size of the H.M.S. Queen Mary cursing their trucks for over heating when it was their foot having a problem? People I sometimes wonder do not really think...Elk signs are flashing all along Hwy 260 and guess what...Yep, You got it, a 1500 pound elk ends up going into a suv windshield...estimated speed was 85 mph...its scary... the elk was blamed, sadly both occupants were killed.

Here is the question I have, when is being sensible in gas/speed make you an obstacle to traffic flow when its to fast? ie. to those who do not agree? Increasing the risk to the point its no longer prudent to drive to save...How do you guys gage this?

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And, neither did I realize how much extra fuel you use at speed.
Last week I left Hope, BC for North Vancouver, mostly flat freeway driving. I kept up with the traffic, running 110 kph and hit 120 at one point. I was still being passed most of the time. And, I had the AC on.
On that trip with Toad in tow and the canoe on the RAV, I used 18.26 litres per 100 kilometers of 12.95 mpg (U.S.)

Travelling back to Hope, with no canoe, but Toad in tow and trying to hold to 90 kph and no AC, I used 12.31 litres per 100 k or 19.22 mpg (U.S). On the return leg I used 12.34 litres / 100k or 19.17 mpg (U.S.). The return leg included gravel roads at 50 to 60 k.

Most of the traffic passing me was doing 120 - 130 kph.

I don't think they can really complain about high fuel prices when they're not prepared to do anything about it.

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Here is the question I have, when is being sensible in gas/speed make you [b]an obstacle to traffic flow when its to fast?
Rhetorical Question ahead:
Do you [b]HAVE TO go 75 when every other car on the road is going that fast, when the posted speed Limit is 65?

When did traffic flow become paramount? Who decides the rate of flow?

I am hearing my Mother's voice in my head right now, "If all your friends are jumping off a cliff, does that mean you are going to jump off too?"


When I tow my trailer, I set the cruise control to [b]55 mph. Even on I-20 in Texas where the posted speed limit is [b]80 mph.
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I have found that the worst are the truckers. They don't like slowing down. However, recently I have noticed that the company trucks have slowed down which leaves only the independants turckers and the four wheelers as the speeders on the interstate.

I just keep my 60 MPH and consider their wanting to pass as their problem not mine.

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Old 08-19-2008, 10:13 AM   #14
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Excellent topic. I've been experimenting with this for a bit (planning a big trip in October with the Escape and wish to get practiced at getting good mileage first). A good resource can be found by going to www dot hypermiling dot com.

If all the yahoos on the road wishing to drive fast (to save 5 minutes while getting all riled up) were to slow down and relax behind the wheel they would quickly find that the driving experience is not only cheaper (easily by 15% or more) but they would find it is also rather pleasing.

I just did a trip down through the states and back into Canada - during which I was super conscious of my driving, and it really paid off. I got an extra 120km over "normal" driving (and I already have several nicknames that make reference to my already "calm" driving practices). (that trip was without the Escape).

Right now 15% less fuel would save approximately $10-15 per tank (for me) - a $0.10 drop in fuel prices would only save me about $6-8.
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