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Old 01-12-2013, 08:56 AM   #1
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I've settled on the Honda EU2000i generator over a few other great options out there. Like the Yamaha EF2000iS and much lower priced Champion (sold at Sams/Costco). The generator is going to be used to power 2 laptops, harddrives, some interior lights, and once in awhile that 9500BTU a/c on the ole 17' Casita.

After thinking about it more I figure if I'm going to drop $1000 on a generation, I might as well spend a little more and have it run on LP too.

I found a conversation kit for $165 bucks:

Honda EU2000i Propane Kits

But I started looking more and I found a company that sells a conversion already done, with a warranty through them. Although that warranty might end up being a hassle in the end:

Inverter Generator with CMD Triple-Fuel System


I'm mostly considering going LP so I don't have to mess around with gas? I keep a 5 gal Jerry can in the back of my pickup right now for extra gas. I use a super syphon if I do have to use it. But that Jerry can is way too cumbersome for frequent use. Do ya'll have a gas can that pours easy and stores well for travel use?
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:59 AM   #2
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How long would a 2000 watt generator run off a 20# tank?
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Just a few thoughts on another option for your consideration.

The conversion kit on the Honda voids the 3-year warranty.

An extended run tank mounted on the tongue will run the generator for days instead of hours. The fuel pump from the generator pulls the gasoline into the generator from the extended run tank.

You can fill the extended run tank at the gas station when you fill your tow vehicle. No lifting or pouring or worries about gas fumes when carrying fuel in your vehicle.
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How long would a 2000 watt generator run off a 20# tank?
I've seen some folks saying online that it will run for 30 hours on #20. But I can't say if that 100% true or not. Here is one source:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...&Number=702335

And if you scroll down on this link, they have some consumption figures:

http://www.generatorsales.com/order/...2000i_Tri_Fuel

So, by those numbers if you fill your 20# tank with 4 gallons of LP and you run your generator at half load you'd get 40 hours of run time.
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I have several friends that converted generators to LP only to quickly realize that it's easier to find gas than LP when you run out. As small as our tanks are that could quickly become a PITA. Also... Your Honda warrantee is voided as soon as you do the conversion.
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Just a few thoughts on another option for your consideration.

The conversion kit on the Honda voids the 3-year warranty.

An extended run tank mounted on the tongue will run the generator for days instead of hours. The fuel pump from the generator pulls the gasoline into the generator from the extended run tank.

You can fill the extended run tank at the gas station when you fill your tow vehicle. No lifting or pouring or worries about gas fumes when carrying fuel in your vehicle.
Wouldn't the same be true for LP? Setup to use one of the LP tanks on the front of the Casita. Well, aside from filling up at the gas station.

Best I can see LP and Gas have similar run times.
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I have several friends that converted generators to LP only to quickly realize that it's easier to find gas than LP when you run out. As small as our tanks are that could quickly become a PITA. Also... Your Honda warrantee is voided as soon as you do the conversion.
What gas can are ya'll using? I'd love to find one that's sealed well and didn't have the annoying new EPA spout.
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Wouldn't the same be true for LP? Setup to use one of the LP tanks on the front of the Casita. Well, aside from filling up at the gas station.

Best I can see LP and Gas have similar run times.
Sure, the LP on the tongue could fuel the conversion.

Other thoughts, When on the road gasoline is more available then propane . Propane re -fillers require me to remove the tank from the tongue. I don't have to do that with the extended run tank. When somebody runs out of gas, I can easily siphon gas from my extended run tank and add to stranded vehicle.(me one time when I was daydreaming and did not pay attention to the gas gauge).
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Sure, the LP on the tongue could fuel the conversion.

Other thoughts, When on the road gasoline is more available then propane . Propane re -fillers require me to remove the tank form the tongue. I don't have to do that with the extended run tank. When somebody runs out of gas, I can easily siphon gas from my extended run tank and add to stranded vehicle.(me one time when I was daydreaming and did not pay attention to the gas gauge).
What tank and gas cap did ya end up using? Do you have images of your mounting setup too?
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What tank and gas cap did ya end up using? Do you have images of your mounting setup too?
Berg Extended Run tank with necessary gas cap from Wise Sales



Honda and Extended Run Tank Installed


Base for Extended Run Tank Slides Out Under Tongue


Or Store Under Tongue
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I run a forklift tank with a quick fill port. I don't have to remove it to fill it.
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Base for Extended Run Tank Slides Out Under Tongue


Or Store Under Tongue
Great looking setup there, Ron.
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I run a forklift tank with a quick fill port. I don't have to remove it to fill it.
That is an interesting idea, Dave. I am thinking of building (or having built) a small tongue box to house my bottles, and possibly have bike mounts on top. This would drop the height down nicely.

How much propane does it hold, and how much does it cost? What is involved in hooking it up to the trailer, as I thought that forklifts drew the liquid out of the tank, and not the gas, but I don't know this for certain.
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Are these generators going to be large enough to run your air conditioner? I realize that you are discussing fuel options here, but you may have a challenge with the air conditioner.

At one time I had a Yamaha EF2400iS. It has since died and been replaced with a larger Subaru inverter generator.The 2400is generator is one size bigger then the one you are considering. It really struggled to start a 15000btu RV air conditioner. Sometimes it would do it, but many times it would rev really hard and then overload. Once the air conditioner was started, it would run all day. You just had to set the temperature at the coldest setting so it would never cycle off and on.

You are talking about a smaller generator and a smaller air conditioner. Your electronics and lights draw very little electricity, so you will be fine there. It may be that with your 9500 BTU A/C you will be ok. Just make sure your generator has enough juice for your needs.

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Great looking setup there, Ron.

That is an interesting idea, Dave. I am thinking of building (or having built) a small tongue box to house my bottles, and possibly have bike mounts on top. This would drop the height down nicely.

How much propane does it hold, and how much does it cost? What is involved in hooking it up to the trailer, as I thought that forklifts drew the liquid out of the tank, and not the gas, but I don't know this for certain.
The bottle I bought holds 33.4lb. It is aluminum. I had the quick fill valve moved from the vapor port to the liquid draw port and a vapor draw valve added to the vapor port. It was ridiculously expensive at $240 and the bracket was $125, or so, I think. It just bolts to the propane shelf on the trailer frame.
The same brackets can hold a 43.4lb bottle, in either steel, or aluminum. I think the steel bottles are a bit less expensive.
I like being able to fill with out removing the bottle, and like you said, it takes up less space.

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