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Old 05-08-2011, 05:03 PM   #71
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We used to camp in the Adirondacks for peace and quiet and fresh air... the beauty of nature. Now a handful of generator users can ruin the camping experience for many. Yes, we have left our campsites during breakfast and dinner times due to generator noise and exhaust blowing in our direction. But never have we received a discount for not being able to utilize our site. I guess some folks just don't know how to make coffee without an electric pot or cook dinner without a microwave. And of course, TV in the woods or on a beautiful lakeshore is a must. And although air conditioning in the Adirondacks is laughable, if you have the unit, you must use it. Se la vie!
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Ron I'm not talking about people with diesel pushers and such. I know those generally have enclosed compartments and nice quiet generators. Heck here in So Cal those people set up and never come out of their rigs, not sure why they even come camping.

I'm speaking of the big ol' toy haulers with their toys and 30-35 ft travel trailers and 5th wheels. We go a few times a year to a fairly remote forest service campground that is full on weekends with dirt bike riders. We love to see families go out and ride together even though it does cause quite a bit of noise. We don't like the (generalizing here) groups of young men who ride their bike too hot and heavy around the campground during quite hours, drink too much beer and party too late & loudly.
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That's not what I hear Byron. It's sounds to me as though we all have different expectations (and wants) as we live (not just camping). Some of us are going to be annoyed if we're in our home and the neighbor's kids are too load or a dog bark's. "We paid good money for our home and we want what we want, when we want it. Everyone be QUIET!" They want the same when they camp. I don't own the campground but I paid my $20 for my 30'x30' space and I don't want anything else to intrude... even living noises. Some of us are more respectful of others and some are less tolerant of others; surprise, surprise...
If we choose to spend our time where others gather we should understand that not everyone values what we value. That's life. I don't own a generator. I have never stayed in a campsite with power or water. I value the peace and quiet. I usually boondock...in the boonies. (that's most places in the Maritime Provinces...) If I do stay in a campground, I expect campground noises; some more than I would prefer. That's life. Smile.

Expecting and tolerating campground noises. Tolerating generator and other motorized noises, yes. Most of us do tolerate those things, but that doesn't mean we like it. That also doesn't mean we shouldn't let a group of people know that those things are an annoyance to others.
From reactions here I think maybe they already know that and don't care.

Generators use is being limited more and more all the time. Generator free areas and shortened use times are some examples. Why?
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Old 05-09-2011, 06:32 AM   #74
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Mary Ann, to answer your question, we've had a Honda EU3000i mounted on the tongue of our 16' Scamp since 07. We live in a rural area near the NC coast and the justification for the purchase was a backup power source for the frequent electrical outages common in hurricane season and winter ice storms.

Its most common camping use is to recharge the battery during extended boondocking and/or dry camping outings but, over the years, its provided power for most of the same reasons that I've needed 110v current at home.

A/C when its too hot to sleep comfortably or during the day if the greenhead flies are so bad you can't sit outside. Using the microwave to quickly heat a cup of soup after hiking all day in snow. We'll often pull into a rest area for meals or to catch a quick nap and the genset comes in handy then. I've used it to power my battery charger when I left the dome light on in the Tacoma while on Portsmouth Island - AAA doesn't go there and, unless a friendly fisherman shows up, its $400 for a mainland garage to come over with a jump.

For us, there's no reason not to take the Honda with us. I'm with most of the other posters here who advocate and practice responsible and considerate use of a generator.

With apologies to Mary Ann for getting off topic - Francesa, if you or Byron would care to start your own thread regarding whether or not generators should be allowed in public areas, I'll be glad to participate in that as well but I've always felt it rude to hijack someone else's topic for a personal agenda.

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With apologies to Mary Ann for getting off topic - Francesa, if you or Byron would care to start your own thread regarding whether or not generators should be allowed in public areas, I'll be glad to participate in that as well but I've always felt it rude to hijack someone else's topic for a personal agenda.

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Hi, Al!
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I hadn't planned to weigh in again until the Sociological Study results were in, but since you addressed me by name...

"Original Poster" Mary Ann herself brought up the word "quiet".
Several pages of discussion ensued, all of it related to levels of noise tolerable to the generator user.
I asked how users avoid positioning themselves as the controllers of ambient noise levels in the environment shared with their neighbors.

Answer:
Generator users are entitled to that position.

Not a single user has asserted otherwise, let alone described any steps they take to mitigate the noise imposed on others.
Not.
Even.
One.

I neither proposed nor do I espouse further bans on generator use.
I will say that the user attitudes revealed so far in this thread have certainly opened my eyes as to how the necessity arose to impose those bans already in place.
A more useful discussion than the "debate thread" you suggest might be one such as those found in other forums about ways (there are ways) to reduce generator noise to barely perceptible levels, even to the user.
Maybe I'll do as you suggest and start a new thread on the subject. One would think, though, that self interest levels in this one indicate that if users are worried about further bans, they might at least be interested in ways to conceal their generators from any Enforcers they may encounter.

Have fun with "your" thread!

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Mary Ann, to answer your question, we've had a Honda EU3000i mounted on the tongue of our 16' Scamp since 07. We live in a rural area near the NC coast and the justification for the purchase was a backup power source for the frequent electrical outages common in hurricane season and winter ice storms.

Its most common camping use is to recharge the battery during extended boondocking and/or dry camping outings but, over the years, its provided power for most of the same reasons that I've needed 110v current at home.

A/C when its too hot to sleep comfortably or during the day if the greenhead flies are so bad you can't sit outside. Using the microwave to quickly heat a cup of soup after hiking all day in snow. We'll often pull into a rest area for meals or to catch a quick nap and the genset comes in handy then. I've used it to power my battery charger when I left the dome light on in the Tacoma while on Portsmouth Island - AAA doesn't go there and, unless a friendly fisherman shows up, its $400 for a mainland garage to come over with a jump.

For us, there's no reason not to take the Honda with us. I'm with most of the other posters here who advocate and practice responsible and considerate use of a generator.

With apologies to Mary Ann for getting off topic - Francesa, if you or Byron would care to start your own thread regarding whether or not generators should be allowed in public areas, I'll be glad to participate in that as well but I've always felt it rude to hijack someone else's topic for a personal agenda.

Al

Here in lies the problem. You expect to be "comfortable" at others expense, you expect to heat your soup with a microwave instead of a stove top, without regard to others.

Need I say more?
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Old 05-09-2011, 03:25 PM   #77
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Perhaps I am missing something and need a good wack on the head to see it but how has this gone off topic?

IMHO we are all here to share our personal experences. For someone new to camping and considering the purchase of a generator it would seem to me helpful for them to hear why, when and where some choose and others do not choose to use a generator. Some you may agree with, some you may not.

Can't tell you how many times over the years someone has raised a point on a topic that I personally had not considered. It may well be a suprise to someone new to our trailers that the use of a generator is not popular with the majority of park users thus the reason you can not use them at all in many parks and others have very restrictive rules. Who would not want the heads up that your best friends may choose not to camp with you if use a generator regardless of the rules or where you camp.

How happy would a new camper be to spending a whole lot of money on something they end up rarely if ever using as they where not aware of all the pros and cons?
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Microwave experience. For the first 7 years of our RVing we had a microwave. We found that it was rarely used, certainly not for anything we could do another way.

The last four years, since down sizing to small trailers, we have not had a microwave. (or oven). We travel 7 months at a time, and have never once said we need a microwave. We much rather have the space.

As for the oven, we have found ways to cook most everything stove top.

Since traveling in a small trailer this was the first year that we had an air conditioner. We turned it on the for the first time when I entered a cupcake decorating contest. (I took two cupcakes and made a Casita 16, won third place.) I was afraid the frosting would melt so I turned the air conditioner on.

Since we typically travel from Oct to April AC is not too critical.

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